digital revival of free cinema

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I would like to have feedback on this "sort of a nanowrimo for film" idea :
a non-lucrative organisation to help independant audio-visual (multimedia) production and distribution by providing a virtual meeting place for non-pro and pro from companies and coops to network and optimize their ressources, like using a "global exchage system" to free the means of production and a file sharing community (a group within like soulseek or shareaza) to free the means of diffusion.
Opening the possibility of a deterritorialization of the film process by allowing more freedom to the workers and the images.

I have other ideas around it, like using an ascii tag system to facilitate the retrival of files in p2p search engines, using creativecommons.org, producing diffusing and using copyright free material (or not) etc but for now basically that's it.
So, what do y'all think?
What other needs such an org could fill (if any)?
Is there other places online that are similar to it?
What other ideas could get connected to it?
Do you have an idea for a film that you would like to make in solo using an opensource moving-image bank?
Would you like to start a team around a project using the services of this organization?
I registered a domain name for it (retia.org) and I'll make a little webpage, would you like to help?

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds like a great idea!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's a temporary webpage about it.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Experimental dream sharing group"
I'm sure david lynch would approve.
hey maybe I should email him, that might kickstart this thing.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I enthusiasticly support this idea. In the past few months I've seen prints of many great avant garde films in a class. Many of the films I had read about but not been able to see. It occurred to me that distribution system for experimantal film, and the lack of real availability for said films, is very sad I think. There should be movement amongst video artists and filmmakers who are interested in formalism and aesthetics, and not the business, to make file sharing their cinematic distribution tool.

― theodore fogeslanger, Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Not quite the same thing, but I've been working in Baltimore for several months on trying to establish an underground film venue (and network with similar ventures in nearby cities), so as to facilitate directors going on tours and selling merch a la indie rock. Seems a little out there, I know, but I think it could totally revolutionize the distribution networks, maintain artist-to-audience contact, and out-flank the somewhat questionable relationship between underground filmmakers and film festivals (re studio relationships with higher-profile ones and parasitic entry fees for most).

I'd be happy to elaborate more on my plan if anyone's interested. Furthermore, if anyone in London would be interested in helping me start one up there, please let me know!

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 9 November 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

girolamo, that is pretty much what me and a couple of my "associates" do

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 10 November 2003 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)

directors going on tours and selling merch a la indie rock

This is a very interesting idea, and I have been talking to a filmmaker from Portland called Andrew Dickson ("Good Grief") who has been doing just this. He's had limited success, though - in some smaller cities only a few people will turn up to see a touring band, let alone a movie. Last I heard, he was thinking about touring with bands, though I'm not sure if that would work. I'm not sure what I'd rather see- a shitty support band, or a shitty short film.

Giralamo, if I was still in London, I would have loved to help you out. If you're serious about that, your first port of call should definitely be the good people at Raindance, who you may have heard of. I did some work with them last year, and they would definitely be very receptive to this type of idea.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

theodore, recently I was pleasantly surprised come across a lot of experimental cinema on p2p networks: avi from len lye, norman mclaren, brakhage, maya deren etc

Girolamo and s1utsky, I think p2p could be an excellent promotional tool for your material. many musicians could testify that it worked for them by getting them audiences they could hardly have reached otherwise.

Personally I would like to work on both fronts: contributing to a pool of copyright free multimedia and also sharing some other material with a bit more copyright, but to get the visibility.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

From Chriddof on ILE:

http://www.archive.org/movies/opensource_movies.php

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 13 December 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently it is conservative estimate to say there is a language somewhere on earth that gets extinct every month.
Taken as true, it's not that far-fetched to think it is probable that culturally distinct parties are dissapearing at a similar rate.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 19 December 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I had too many windows opened at the same time and I mixed-up my posts.

Thank you for the link @d@ml. I just noticed it yesterday, rapidly checked and it looks exactly like what I was looking for + it is made by a decent org that doesn't look will fly by nite. To my great surprise it looked like they are shelling the cost of storage and bandwidth for the distribution. It increases my freedom greatly by giving me the time to concentrate on the stuff that I like to do best: working on the cultural objects themselves, not the tools to make them.

Too bad Chriddof's post on ILE was left next to unanswered. It boggles the mind.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 19 December 2003 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

the p2p setup by the folks at ILE could work perfectly for this. the only difficulty i see is the technical difficulties--many people wouldn't have material to share because of inabilities to capture/encode films, adjusting firewalls & routers to work with sharing programs, etc.

the other issue, when it comes to experimental film (which typically is more formalistically demanding) is that some filmmakers would have an issue screening their films as QuickTimes, especially if they're 320x240 @ 15 fps.

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

on the production side of things, I am interested in
http://www.kino00.com/
people getting together, sharing equipment and skills, to make movies no matter what.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

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