Redefining the term "indie"

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There is conflict among film buffs over the true meaning of the word "indie." I used to adhere to the idea that if you worked independent of the major studios, you were indie - plain and simple. But there is something more to it, the idea of the "independent spirit." This term implies that a filmmaker, regardless of how large or small his/her budget, works outside the boundaries of traditional film technique to create provocative and personal works that rethink the way movies are made and how they impact audiences.

As the American independent film movement has grown and developed over the past three decades, a new cinematic term was given birth: "art film." Since the 70's, there has, unfortunately, been a very THICK line between art and entertainment, and so to differentiate between mainstream pop entertainment and artistic cinema embodying the idea of an independent spirit, the term "art film" was designated. The problem, however, is that a true work of art is a living, evolving entity, and any attempts to confine a work of art to rigid genre trappings are absurd. Thus, the term "art film" has become just as cliche as "western," "comedy," or "horror," and has resulted in just as many genre stereotypes as any of its counterparts.

Today, Jim Jarmusch is generally considered the standard-bearer for American independent film. Despite the pleasure and intellectual satisfaction his films have given me ("Dead Man," especially), I do not consider Jarmusch to be a truly independent filmmaker. While his films are undoubtedly personal, unconventional, and remarkably inventive, he still panders to art critics and dilettantes by obligating himself to the standards of the contemporary "art film" instead of completely doing away with all prior cinematic conventions and starting completely anew.

The art film conventions culminated in last year's "Gerry," a tedious and ridiculously pretentious exercise in slow pacing, nature shots, and the obligatory mysterious journey embarked on by the central characters. I like Gus Van Sant, and so I didn't hate the film, but it panders to the very idea of what an art film should look, feel, and behave like. It's desire to cater to the demands of its target audience is no less shameless than "Saving Private Ryan."

I would argue that the true indie maverick of the past thirty years is Larry Cohen, the auteur behind such neglected gems as "Q: The Winged Serpent," "Black Caesar," and "It's Alive!" Cohen's work is a head-on collision of 50's science fiction schlock, exploitation films, comic book-style satire and sociopolitical analysis. From a strictly entertainment standpoint, Cohen's films are sloppy, with unconvincing special effect; he scoffs at those audience members who expect to be mindlessly diverted without having to deal with what he is clearly trying to achieve intellectually. From an artistic standpoint, Cohen challenges the very notion of cinematic art, and what an art film is supposed to look and feel like; these are not the kinds of movies serious filmgoers are "supposed to" watch.

I am not implying that Cohen is any better or worse than the favorite independent filmmakers of our time (Jarmusch, Tarantino, Van Sant, von Trier), simply that he embodies the idea of the "independent spirit" more fully. He collapses the walls between art and entertainment, and challenges the notions of both halves of the audience. In my humble opinion, this is what independent spirit is all about. It is easy to follow the rule book or to disobey it. It is not as easy to rewrite it.

Anthony (Anthony F), Thursday, 11 March 2004 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Independent vs. Underground

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 11 March 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The art film conventions culminated in last year's "Gerry," a tedious and ridiculously pretentious exercise in slow pacing, nature shots, and the obligatory mysterious journey embarked on by the central characters. I like Gus Van Sant, and so I didn't hate the film, but it panders to the very idea of what an art film should look, feel, and behave like. It's desire to cater to the demands of its target audience is no less shameless than "Saving Private Ryan."

Goddamn are you arrogant! Rather, you should say "I got nothing out of Gerry or Gerry didn't say much to me etc. But how dare you accuse GVS of pandering? Is he at that point in his career where he needs to do that? What makes up this "target audience" you speak of? Who are they? How much revenue are they going to bring to GVS, his producers, distributors, etc? Please. Gerry, love it or hate it, is a very personal work, and GVS did not have to compromise at all.

And, rather than Larry Cohen I would put forth Monte Hellman as the embodiment of independent cinema.

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Friday, 12 March 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I never said I didn't "get anything" out of Gerry. It has its share of good qualities. However, after Finding Forrester, Van Sant received a lot of heat from his art house audience for making a "crowd-pleaser." Gerry is such an obvious attempt by Van Sant to confirm his art house credibility. It has nothing to do with how much "revenue" it's going to bring to those involved. The point is, Gerry is as much a crowd-pleaser as Finding Forrester, only this time it's a different crowd.

Anthony (Anthony F), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"While his films are undoubtedly personal, unconventional, and remarkably inventive, he still panders to art critics and dilettantes by obligating himself to the standards of the contemporary "art film" instead of completely doing away with all prior cinematic conventions and starting completely anew."

I think it's important to remember that Jarmusch was one of the founders of what's know as the "indie" look (well, at least one of the first to resurrect it after Cassavettes' death). I don't think he's "pandering" to arthouse critics at all--just making films in a style he popularized and enjoys and understands.

I also believe that an artist should be constantly evolving, but there are degrees of subtlety with which that can be achieved. if the goal of every artist was simply to keep changing their aesthetic with each film, the end result is all filmmakers becoming stan brakhage, culminating with a full dismissal of narrative form and representative imagery altogether. and as much as i love brakhage, there's got to be other types of films out there to keep things interesting.

i think G.S. brought up a good point, and one that has been made before on posts regarding indie film--there has to be a line drawn between "indie" and "outsider/underground" film. the idea of basing a genre purely on the concept of financing sources always seemed a bit foolish to me, especially so now in the era of "independent" films with $50 million budgets.

"indie" film has gotten stale; there's no argument there. but to come down on the founders (jarmusch, van sant) instead of all of the copycats isn't really fair. they developed the aesthetic & if it had not became so rapidly popularized & copied (great parallels with punk rock here), they would simply be considered auteurs.

also, i really don't get the point of art films pandering to a "crowd". it's not like there's huge money in making art films, and jarmusch and van sant are established enough directors that they could be making the big bucks schlocking out hollywood fare any day of the week. the fact that they choose not to deserves at least a bit of respect.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
uhh.....could someone please explain to me what is the real point in making art films?art films are boring.booo

sreshta (sreshta), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sreshta --

What exactly is an art film? Provide more detail.

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

uhh...could some please explain to me what is the real point in making popcorn films? popcorn films are meaningless. booo

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, who would want to watch art and have to think and feel things when you can just enjoy the primal desire-fulfillment of watching a car blow up or midgets save a wedding ring.

i just don't get it....

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

midgets save a wedding ring

ROTFLMAO!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)


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