I would have to say "Going Overboard" with Adam Sandler. Don't get me wrong--I'm a big fan of Sandler's work, and "Billy Madison" is one of my favorite films. But a friend of mine & myself literally had to force ourselves to sit through the whole thing in order to say that we had watched the worst movie ever made in its entirety.
And as much of fan of early Godard as I am, I find his more recent works, for the most part, to be nearly unbearable. I couldn't get more than 20 minutes into "In Praise of Love" before I had to turn it off.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)
A couple unreleased indie films a friend acted in were worse, though.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)
Demolition Man: I wanted to throw Sandra Bullock into a festering septic tank.
Very Bad Things: Favreau & Vaughan back together again... Very Bad Movie.
Did anyone ever see Romeo Is Bleeding? I never saw it but my good friend said it was by far the worst he's seen.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)
Romeo Is Bleeding is pretty good actually. And I didn't mind The Mothman Prophecies either, though I feel slightly sheepish admitting it.
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)
― Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)
― noizem duke (noize duke), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)
but, just so i'm remembering it right, is there a scene in "the mothman prophecies" where richard gere says goodbye to his dying wife who is actually pinned between a car and a tree and is in TWO PIECES, so that when he's done saying goodbye and sharing a tear they back the car back up so she can hurry on with the process of dying? because if i *am* rembering right, i'll give you that scene and that scene only.
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)
Speaking of which: replace The Doom Generation with Signs.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)
― t0dd swiss, Saturday, 8 January 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)
― andrew s (andrew s), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)
― Anthony (Anthony F), Saturday, 8 January 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 8 January 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)
― piscesboy, Saturday, 8 January 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
― noizem duke (noize duke), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 January 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― zappi (joni), Sunday, 9 January 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)
Do not even pretend you've seen a bad film until you endure this.
― CC72, Sunday, 9 January 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
I think I'd rather stick lit matches between my toes than have to watch that entire film. At first I thought "This would probably be a decent film if the acting wasn't so bad." Then I started listening to the dialogue & noticing the psedo-avant garde editing and realized, no, nothing could save that film.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 10 January 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)
Lost in Translation is a pernicious, evil film. One of the most empty cinematic experiences I've had. Fuck this movie.
Armegeddon. The cinematic equivalent of repeatedly being hit on the head with an anvil and being asked over and over, "ENTERTAINED YET?"
Big Daddy. Adam Sandler has his moments. But this movie is an abortion.
Of course plenty of Mystery Science Theater type grade Z movies I've seen have been unbelievably awful, but its not really worth the time attacking them. they're not the films wasting space at the local multiplex. and at least they can be amusing.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 January 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)
More than anything, atmosphere determines whether I like a film or not, and Sofia Coppola's films have done that for me thus far.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 10 January 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Monday, 10 January 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)
-- jay blanchard (kinojay3...), January 10th, 2005.
actually, atmosphere's a big thing for me too (one of the MOST important things for me, actually)! i just don't find the whole "spoiled, moping, homesick foreigners bonding in a strange land" thing compelling, no matter how pretty the scenery or the soundtrack is.
in fact it made me rather mad, because the film wants you to sympathize with these characters, and yet they're so unbearably grating! i'd probably like the film a little bit better if it had been more UNsymapthetc towards the characters.
but obviously thats just my own opinion:-)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 January 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)
― Scott McFarland (Scott McFarland), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)
:)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 January 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 10 January 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)
it's so dorky
― andrew s (andrew s), Monday, 10 January 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)
maybe if their suffering made an interesting film! ;-)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)
I guess the only problem I'm having with the critiques I've heard of "Lost In Translation" so far is that some folks are having trouble feeling sympathy for or identifying with the characters. This is surely a suitable critique, but I wouldn't say this quality alone constitutes a bad film.
Of course, I'm a hypocrite in this regard---the only reason I hate the film Movern Callar is because the main character is about as worthless a human being that I can imagine.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)
Did you just not know what you were getting into?
I might consider it a mostly failed experiment, but it's better than most Leelee Sobieski vehicles.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
i am anxiously awaiting a sequel to "joy ride"
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)
A late (1970) Jerry Lewis WWII comedy, "Which Way to the Front?" Really painful.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)
I still haven't figured out how she was married and living in California for a couple of years, but just got her degree from Yale the previous semester.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)
Believe me, I really want to be able to hate this film with you, but you haven't given me a solid reason yet.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)
My comments are found on the ILE threads and I don't recall enough specifics now to really make a case, but I disliked it largely for the way Coppola tried her hardest to force your identification with Johannsen and Murray by presenting everyone else in shrill, irredeemable caricature - yet never made either Johannsen or Murray out to be a worthwhile, three-dimensional human being who deserves my empathy. "Oh, my photographer husband is a dick... because he loves his job and brought me along and I can't find anything worth doing in this teeming metropolis but hang out with these awesome Japanese hipsters who are so much cooler than those lame-os in the hotel bar. Check out this horrible, loud stupid starlet I WENT TO YALE." Feh.
It didn't even get atmosphere points from me (and I'll repeatedly watch films that are nothing but atmosphere, see also: Sleepy Hollow).
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)
OTM, I wondered the same thing. I also wondered how she got her degree from Yale and yet always seemed so dumb.
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)
I knew three things going into it: I knew the blue screen, I knew the dying, and I knew Tilda Swinton was in it. So I was excited. I didn't know about the insufferably pretentious style of reading(/writing), however, which was what made me walk out.
So the "privileged" aren't allowed to have angst & tragedy?
Angst and tragedy aren't inherently interesting, is the thing. (Which is exactly what latebloomer said, sure.)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
I guess August Strindberg and William Shakespeare are out of a job...
I found the characters in LIT to have more dimension than most others I've seen lately. It's not as if they were presented as flawless characters, as both of them recognize their faults.
And I think the whole thing with the Japanese hipsters was more of a metaphor on communication--the main characters are so distanced from their spouses (either geographically or emotionally) that even hanging out with people who speak a different language is preferrable.
I also don't agree with the secondary characters being mere "caricatures"--they mainly show their faults & their shallowness (hey, they are "secondary" characters), but they do show moments of insight & even the actress shows moments of intellect.
I really don't know why I'm going to lengths to defend this film--it's not one of my favorites. But I'm just having a difficult time with the criticism; it seems like either classism or hipsters condemning hipsters.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
The best are touchstones in American cinema, esp The Ladies Man and The Nutty Professor.
At the Toronto Fest 2003, of some 35 films the only one I walked out on was a witless comedy called "Easy." (Tho Dumont's "Twentynine Palms" was quite lousy.)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
At least Strindberg has Helium to fall back on.
(I'm not sure Shakespeare did angst well.)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 13 January 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)
That's an incredibly bold statement!
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)
Ok, so what makes a character "interesting" to you then? Internal conflict seems to be out...
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)
MWWWHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)
-- milozauckerman (wooderso...), January 12th, 2005.
OTFM
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
Plenty more, but those two came to mind as true visitations to 90 minute hell.
― iang, Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)
please don't say you loved "magnolia"
― a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)
ok, i give up; we're playing in completely different ballparks--we'll just have to agree to disagree.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)
So, to unravel the incredibly rickety staircase of logic that got to this point- does that mean you DO like Lost in Translation after all, milozaukerman?I'd like LiT much better if she contemplated suicide and/or poisoned Bill Murray for sleeping with the lounger singer.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 14 January 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)
No, Hamlet's angst is annoying because it's bullshit, a transparent theatrical device to keep the plot chugging along, completely implausible and unjustified. The angst over justifying this that critics have indulged in for fewer centuries than you'd think -- that is a much more influential angst!
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 January 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 January 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
no offense, just riffing.
― Andy Hart (AndyHart), Saturday, 15 January 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)
― holojames (holojames), Saturday, 15 January 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 15 January 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 16 January 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)
I'm really disillusioned by the fact that some folks can't seem to tell the difference between good-natured debate & personal assaults. If this board turns into PC "let's all get along" group, you can count me out. We're all grown-ups here; we should be able to take some healthy intellectual sparring. In other words, grow some thicker skin.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 16 January 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, that's my arsehole, hope you like it
― Andy Hart (AndyHart), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)
and if it is indeed the worst movie ever what does that make 'the whole ten yards' or 'swept away' or motherfucking 'gigli'????
― Andy Hart (AndyHart), Sunday, 16 January 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
"Peter Bradshaw, Guardian film critic There are some films that are awful in an obvious way, like Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez in Gigli. Being in the audience was like being in a crashing plane. There are other films like the British comedy Sex Lives of the Potato Men, which was dire. But it's so abject you don't feel like kicking it when it's down. The most insidiously awful type of film, however, is Arthouse Lite. A key example is The Piano by Jane Campion. It is middlebrow, pseudo-literary cinema, which is shallow and prissy and genteel. Those self-regarding pretty-pretty compositions of Holly Hunter on the beach, drove me up the wall. She's mute: which manages to be such a smug passive-aggressive idea. That's my thing about bad films. Honest dreck is fine. It's straight-to-video rubbish and I don't get upset about it, but I can get upset about middleweight nonsense. "
IMHO...OTM
― noizem duke (noize duke), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)
I understand your point, but I still don't think "The Piano" was quite that bad. It was derrivative & pretentious, sure, but it was at least still watchable.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 17 January 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)
No tits, no pussy
― Greg Keyes, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
― MVP (nordicskilla), Thursday, 17 March 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)
re: Lost in translation -- having only seen the trailer,I would guess that the movie is only 60-70% as hilarious and effective at telegraphing alienation/Middle-aged angst as the "Mr. Sparkeru" episodeof the Simpsons. Can those who've watched confirm?
― signs_no1fan, Friday, 18 March 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)
i caught man on fire on hbo a couple nights ago and it was definitely the worst movie i've seen from this decade so far. any 10 or so minute stretch would be fine, but taken as a whole it's an offense to humanity.
― andrew s (andrew s), Saturday, 19 March 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)
― evil bill (evil bill), Saturday, 19 March 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 19 March 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
-- Scott McFarland (hiddenfire8...) (webmail), January 10th, 2005 12:05 PM.
I have to flat-out disagree. Ang Lee's (despite Taiwanese exctraction) as American a director as they come. And I think his encapsulation of '70s Connecticut is of the same quality and social magnitude as Spike Lee's encapsulation of Bedford-Stuy in Do The Right Thing as in it's a reduction-sauce of a representation but one that's broadly accessible. And having grown up in a town really close to where the movie takes place, I have to identify with the characters - emotionally closed, New England reserved, internally raw - and the timid "de-vilification" of sexuality the rich whites are almost pathologically trying to accomplish while laying the burden of sex-guilt on their children. Presuming that movie is more about a time/place than about an incident locked fundamentally into that time place is inaccurate and facile, IMHO.
― Remy [(X+Y)(X+Y)= X^2 + 2XY + Y^2] (x Jeremy), Saturday, 19 March 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 March 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 March 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― Remy [(X+Y)(X+Y)= X^2 + 2XY + Y^2] (x Jeremy), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Saturday, 19 March 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
How can something about an incident locked fundamentally in a particular time and place not be fundamentally about that particular time and place?
― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
All of those movies are bad for different reasons, and "Girl With A Pearl Earring" certainly qualifies as the most boring film I have EVER seen.
― VIC MACKEY (nordicskilla), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 27 March 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)
― Remy Ulysses Q. Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)
GothGirl stabbing lippy clerk in the ear - classic!
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)