"important"/popular films you've never seen, or seen late

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i have never really gotten too excited about trends in popular film, so i feel that i have tons of holes -- films i SHOULD see but haven't.
for example, i've never seen a clockwork orange or fight club, which are pretty much essential pieces of popular culture at this point. i've never seen blade runner and i haven't seen citizen kane since i was a kid and i remember nothing about it.

i finally saw the godfather about two months ago but still haven't seen part 2. i finally saw the matrix last night.
usually i just break down and rent these films because i'm sick of people constantly saying "oh, you really SHOULD see that." and talking about it and making references to it.

j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just thinking of starting a thread like this. there are so many movies that become an important part of pop culture and are alluded to widely. The last, awkward back-of-the-bus scene in last night's Gilmore Girls reminded me of The Graduate, and I was thinking about how I must be missing all sorts of subtle allusions from classic movies I never saw...

I just saw Blade Runner a couple of months ago, and adored it. I'd recommend the director's cut. That's a movie I could watch repeatedly, and there aren't too many of those.

Yeah, so what movies might be required viewing for those who want to be (more) culturally literate?

JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

You're asking for a very long list! well, I'm sure everyone has their own worthy picks. But maybe you should just check out everyone's picks on the Introduce Yourselves thread.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, there are certain films that are absolutely NECESSARY to be culturally literate - like star wars or the wizard of oz. but i've seen those.

j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

If you watch them both at once--ach, never mind

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

awkward back-of-the-bus scene in last night's Gilmore Girls

A Midnight Cowboy reference instead, surely.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

midnight cowboy and easy rider are two more i've never seen. i may have seen easy rider at some point, but i have absolutely no memory of it, so it doesn't count. i did, for some reason, see the last movie but i don't know why.

j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i've never seen the matrix. i wanted to see it when it came out, but there was always something on which i was more interested in spending my $10. now i have this perverse block against seeing it, which means i'll probably miss out on the sequel.
some other notables i've been made to feel bad about missing: birth of a nation, animal house, the godfather part 2, and the umbrellas of cherbourg.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Seen one of those, you've seen 'em all.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(possibly, amateurist, as I haven't seen midnight cowboy)

I need to see the Godfather series as well.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never watched any of the first three Star Wars movies all the way through.

Never seen Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, either.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Please do yourself a favor and watch Blade Runner. It's great!! Then you'll finally understand where all those other movies that you have seen that aren't as good ripped everything off from.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Lauren I have exactly the same block against seeing The Matrix. I figure once I've come this far without having seen it, why ruin it all?

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Way too many to name. Probably the most notable 90's films I've missed are Goodfellas, Se7en, Braveheart, and The Matrix.

A few years ago, I got tired of people saying "What?! You haven't seen [insert classic 80's film here]?!" and so I rented the Molly Ringwald trilogy (Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink) to see what all the fuss was about. But I still haven't seen Weird Science, Real Genius, or Say Anything. I'm not sure why everyone else my age (24) has seen these movies and I haven't. Maybe it's because I made a relatively quick leap from watching kids' movies in elementary school to becoming an adolescent film snob.

Also, I saw all the Star Wars movies when I was little, but only once. (They didn't interest me that much.) So most of the references are over my head.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

This one is easy for me -- TITANIC. Mainly because I'm not that fond of nautical imagery and tend not to like films that take place entirely on boats.

amateurist -- just watch the Matrix already. It's a good time man.

jaymc -- that's quite a feat avoiding Goodfellas, Seven, Braveheart, and The Matrix. your loss.

PVC (peeveecee), Thursday, 8 May 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

jfail -- this is probably getting redundant -- but for the love of GOD -- you must see Blade Runner (I would get the director's cut) and Clockwork Orange -- they'd even make a great double feature.

jaymc -- Weird Science and Real Genius are worth a spin if you're in the right mood.

Okay, I'm done spazzing out now.

PVC (peeveecee), Thursday, 8 May 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked how you said you weren't fond of nautical imagery.

(I however am)

slutsky (slutsky), Friday, 9 May 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never seen Pulp Fiction or The Sixth Sense.

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never seen Blade Runner either

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

And the funny thing is Blade Runner is my kind of movie. All my friends tell me that they think I would totally love it.

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It took me a long, long, long time to finally watch Citizen Kane. And even though I'm a little hazy on the particulars, I'm sure it had something to do with it being considered the greatest of the great of all greatdom. Once I bit the bullet I was fine and I could watch it again just for pleasure and all the cool camera tricks. Still probably prefer the Magnificent Ambersons and Touch Of Evil though.

scott seward, Friday, 9 May 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The only time I've seen Say Anything was at the tail end of three hits of acid. It kept playing itself forward and then the sound would go backward for a few moments.

All I remember is some girl who sounds like Corky from Life Goes On saying "he made me laugh."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

If it was released in the Naughts, then I haven't seen it.

Leee (Leee), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually didn't see any of the Star Wars films until fairly recently, for some reason. I loved them, for whatever that's worth.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i've never seen say anything, any of the aliens movies, goodfellas, braveheart, or the sixth sense. don't really plan on seeing any of them either.

when people give me the "oh my god you haven't seen titanic!" line i just say "oh my god you haven't seen rat pfink a boo boo?!?!"

j fail (cenotaph), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no desire to see Titanic or Braveheart. I've not seen the Matrix, but I'd like to. I think I have a unique one here, in that I've not seen the film but I've read not just the novelisation (not an original novel, a novelisation) but its sequel as well: I've never seen ET.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't seen any of the star wars films, ET, any of the godfather films, any of the alien(s) films, goodfellas, the great escape, bladerunner, the matrix, citizen kane, casablanca...

A lot of these though are referenced so often by other people/things that I can spot the reference without having actually seen the films though.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Add to that American Beauty, which I have on video and still haven't watched. And the Lord of the Rings, despite being married to a LotR fanatic.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I've seen Raging Bull, Goodfellas and Taxi Driver, but barely remember them. And every time I get close to renting one, I just can't do it.

There's some kind of Scorsese-mind-block going on.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I've had "Schindler's List" on tape for a really long time, but haven't watched it yet.

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 9 May 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

skip American Beauty - it's awful. i've never seen taxi driver or raging bull. and let's not even get started on all of the hitchcock films i've never seen.

j fail (cenotaph), Monday, 12 May 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The list is so long but thanks to netflix i am working on it.

the godfather

many westerns (which do not interest me per se but are important in reference to many other films)

i am also weak on foreign and film noir

Eve, Monday, 12 May 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Getting a window air conditioner around 1996 killed going to the theatre to see movies, as I used to go just to get out of the heat, so there are bunches of 90s and 00s movies I haven't seen.

E.T. is probably the most popular movie that I still haven't seen, especially considering I am of that age when it came out new.

I just saw Slingblade a couple of weeks ago and I finally saw The Royal Tennenbaums last weekend. Both are movies that I wanted to see, but after missing them the first time around, it seemed everyone I knew had seen them. I liked them both.

I'd still like to see that last David Lynch movie, Crouching Dragon, The Two Towers, Magnolia, Memento and a whole lot of other things from past few years.


earlnash, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

watch blade runner but don't read the book.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Julio has it very much the wrong way round.

earlnash, don't bother seeing ET, just read the novelisation, and its sequel. They're great!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I still have traumatic buried memories of that sequel.

slutsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Tonight: part one of "Amateurist catches up with the last decade of summer blockbusters": Amateurist rents X-Men

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

a clockwork orange is coming on bravo! first week of june. somebody remind me.

brian badword (badwords), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

OK. I liked X-Men alright. Well done.

Spiderman though was ... occasionally cute ... mostly k-lame. The tone kept changing, really clunkily, like someone learning to drive stick.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 15 May 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I could give two shits about The Matrix, but tell me if this Jonathan Rosenbaum isn't dripping with snottiness:

The Matrix Reloaded
Capsule by Jonathan Rosenbaum
From the Chicago Reader

The first of two sequels to The Matrix planned for release this year, courtesy of the original writer-directors, the Wachowski brothers, who have amplified the camp elements of the original--including the ultrasolemn performances of Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, and Carrie-Anne Moss--while retreading the same metaphysical conceits. Lines like "We're all here to do what we're here to do" reverberate more than long enough for us to ponder their full profundity, and the martial arts choreography is neither graceful nor exciting--it's worthy of a video game. Only after cars, trucks, and a motorcycle join the action--easily outclassing all the actors--does the movie take on a modicum of vitality. But if you're 14 or younger in age or sensibility, you may giggle at some of the bons mots. 138 min.

What does JR have against 14 year olds? I hope never to be so curmudgeonly in my old age.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate dismissive film criticism like that. It's lazy and unoriginal. Even crap should be analysed to it's full potential.

Any body read Peter Travers Reloaded Review. He basically describes the entire plot in minute detail and then says "I didn't like it".

PVC (peeveecee), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Haven't we learned ANYTHING from the French.

PVC (peeveecee), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I just don't understand why Rosenbaum has constructed this world where the mere release of a film like The Matrix is considered some kind of personal threat which he has to fend off with cheap sarcasm and snideness. I know he doesn't believe that every 15 year old would be out watching The Wind Will Carry Us if only Joel Silver hadn't inflicted Keanu Reeves upon them--but sometimes he writes as though he believes this.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, by dismissing the film outright like that, he's basically saying "fuck you" to all the many people who do like it. I know all about cultural hegemony/lack of choices/etc. etc. but it remains that some franchises and successful and some art despite equal amounts of hype and promotion. I'd think it'd be much more interesting to at least TRY to understand what The Matrix is doing that endears itself to so many, rather than turn your nose up at the entire phenomenon. Well, I suppose I'm guilty of the latter type of response on occasion but if I were writing reviews I'd be a bit more responsible.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

some franchises and successful and some art

Wow, I was typing too fast. Should be "some franchises are successful and some aren't"

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)


"some franchises and successful and some art " -- it was a Freudian slip.

I'm gonna go see it tomorow, mainly because I'm a raging science ficition nut. The wildly divergent, even downright hostile, reception it's gotten so far has made me even more curious and intruiged than if the reaction had just been "it rocks".

PVC (peeveecee), Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

''Julio has it very much the wrong way round.''

hehe sorry what i meant is that I do think you should read the book instead of watching the movie but if you happen to see the movie first and you like it then don't read the book bcz you will like it less.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 May 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)


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