Manderlay

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Is anyone here anticipating it?

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen the poster- is it a Lars Van Trier remake of Rebecca?

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

This is mostly getting the reviews Dogma should've gotten.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Dogma?

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

The Rotten Tomato meter thing shows both Dogville and Manderlay getting about 65%+/- positive reviews so I don't quite get the comparison. Unless you are talking about the Kevin Smith movie in which case I don't get what you are talking about.

Is there a release date on this?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

This Friday NYC, 3rd of February West Coast major markets.

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, he meant Dogville, I see!

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

haha i thought about that for about 5 minutes "does he mean Dogville? or is he making a mysterious comment on Dogma" but comparing it to Dogma kinda makes sense!!!

― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

it looks okay, I suppose. I like Dogville A LOT but that is in large part due to Nicole Kidman who, I admit, is not a brilliant actress, but works really well in certain roles (like that, and in Birth). I'm not entirely sure how he will surprise us this time.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I think Nicole Kidman is a good (maybe not brillaint but good) actress!

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think acting (or actors) are particularly important in Von Triers films. He's seem to get good performances out of most people.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

Note: this may be because he's tormenting them.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

And making them EAT their costumes! Pretty funny.

― phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

i saw it a couple months ago. it left me feeling so disturbed afterwards because of the racial issues it deals with and a sort of catch 22 situation that blacks had to face. theres a twist at the end that was a real spirit sinker. it's a tough movie to sit through because of things always seeming to go wrong for everyone/thing. it's good though and i recommend seeing it.

― buyabiznatch (buyabiznatch), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

Nicole Kidman's amazing skin more than makes up for any deficiencies found in her acting ability. Her movies would all work better as a succession of close-ups with the odd establishing shot in between.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:41 (nineteen years ago)

Her movies would all work better as a succession of close-ups with the odd establishing shot in between.

have you seen birth?

― joseph (joseph), Friday, 3 February 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I meant Dogville. (Dogma at least had two good jokes in it.) I hadn't sampled the whole wide Rotten Tomato world (half of which will thumbs-up any movie that has hype oozing from it), just that a couple critics said that the tropes that worked [sic] in Dogville now look lazy and empty in Manderlay.

I generally like all the LvT stuff I've seen through Breaking the Waves (highlights: first Kingdom series and Medea) and and find him and his movies to be infantile since. He's become the world's most punchable filmmaker after Paul Haggis. The documentary on the making of The Idiots, THE HUMILIATED, is probably the best post-Medea film he'll ever have anything to do with.

I saw Dogville on a Good Friday, and given the 3-hour length and my agony the only thing missing was a vinegary sponge.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

rotten tomatoes should have a feature where you can weed out certain critics.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 3 February 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

In general I agree that I tend to like earlier Von Triers (esp. The Kingdom and Zentropa) than more recent stuff which tends to be tiresome (The Idiots is particularly bad, but I don't rate Breaking the Waves as much as some and Dancer in the Dark is pretty meh--despite a few compelling moments), but Dogville is the exception. I think it worked really amazing well.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen the second series of The Kingdom, but I think The Idiots is very good.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Manderlay might be about racism.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's weird because I find Lars kind of repulsive in person, sort of like the perennial farting schoolboy, but his movies are always worth seeing for something.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I find Lars kind of repulsive in person

Yeah, very apparent in The Humiliated and his role in Epidemic.

Dogville was intriguing for a half hour, then in turned into an S&M Our Town written by some humorless Hate America squatter from the mid '80s East Village.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

the idiots > breaking the waves > dancer in the dark

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Heh I think I would completely reverse that order and add more >>>>s.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 February 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

we should go for a drink, mark.

London, this summer?

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 February 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

adam are you mocking me?

london, NEXT summer.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 3 February 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

yeah yeah, I just caught my faux pas. oops :(

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 February 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Aww.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 February 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

You guys should see The Five Obstructions if you haven't already.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

the idiots > breaking the waves > dancer in the dark

i think i agree with this.

i saw europa again recently and didn't think it was that great on a second view, though jean-marc barr is sort of dreamy in an odd way.

might be a bit too early to spread this around, but what the hey: someone i know overheard LVT saying that there may not be a third installment of this trilogy, due to "script complications" (like implausible plots have stopped him filming before?).

― joseph (joseph), Saturday, 4 February 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

You guys should see The Five Obstructions if you haven't already

I second this. You should also read Trier on Von Trier. He comes across as surprisingly likable.

― evil bill (evil bill), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

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