prediction thread for new admin policies

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In recent months there has been a big increase in the amount of creepery and meta bitchiness across the boards on ILX. I am specifically referring to the following things:

An obsessive interest in researching scandal/gossip that's happened in the past, manifesting itself as revivals of old threads to highlight some post or statement that's supposedly funny or o_0 or whatever.

Ad hominem snide at any other poster about IRL things that are not under discussion on that thread

Meta snidiness behind people's backs on one of the smaller boards or on board 77

Researching-ur-life shit about people who don't even post here anymore.

Using smaller boards or board 77 to plan pranks/raids on the main boards, as in here or here

Sharing logins to run multi-user sockpuppets for baiting people

Helping people who've been banned from the board to register new accounts

Tedious rote responses to certain posters, especially the use of repeated image "zings".

Take it from me that people do complain about all of this, and that a number of those people, decent, interesting people, some of them, have quit the board or scaled back their posting as a result of this. It seems fairly obvious to me that most people will (and have) put up with a bunch of arguing about stuff – despite complaining about it! But, once shit starts to appear that makes people feel uncomfortable and creeped out, then they're not going to hang around. I want this – this creepy, uncomfortable-making stuff to stop.

So, from here on, we're adopting a zero-tolerance approach to this behaviour. You can expect to see creepy shit, nasty ad-homineming, meta bitch threads, moronic obsessive adolescent zinging, pointless one-word, or one-phrase cut&pasted&italicised thread revives deleted on sight from here on. In addition, if some people are going to persist in this kind of assholism, then some people are going to get banned, permanently. Be aware that I really don't want to see ANYONE getting banned over this, instead I want to see people take a step back, and look at the way they've been behaving towards other posters, try and realise that behind the words on the screen there is an actual person, and behave accordingly in future.

Understand that what I'm not asking/expecting is for everyone to magically start to get on with each other. We've always been an argumentative bunch, pretty much from day one. I expect that people will continue to argue, call each other out etc. What I want to stop is stuff like people going on one of the smaller boards and starting a bitchy, whiny meta thread about someone they disagree with, or digging for dirt either from the board's past, or off-board about someone so they can repost it, or so they can revive a bunch of threads where someone has said something naïve or embarrassing, just to make them look better (it doesn't) – all the shit listed above.

This is a big change in moderation, and I expect people will want to talk about it, by all means do so. Any zings or images will be deleted though.

-- Pashmina, Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:34 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Link

waht could possibly go wrong?

jhøshea, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

when the air force and the uk put their brains together nancy shit like this is bound to happen

balls, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:36 (seventeen years ago)

nancy shit like cricket or what do you mean

deeznuts, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)

hey if anyone wants to post something but they're afraid phil fulmer's gonna drop the banhammer on them just send it to me and i'll post it for you. as pathetic and borderline creepy (though seriously ban all the disturbing creeps and juvenile assholes and ilx loses 80% of its posters - ilm's gone entirely - and all of its mods) and frankly waaay too into this INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD as the offending behavior was this response is so much more pathetic and worse. putting out fire with gasoline.

balls, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:43 (seventeen years ago)

Hey, when are you going to start posting to ILBB again?

felicity, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

(sorry, that was for balls)

felicity, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

GOOD ONE

deeznuts, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

:( srsly, deez, that is a former reg I am trying to get back. You too.

felicity, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ balls-deeznuts-balls string

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:54 (seventeen years ago)

balls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deeznuts

am0n, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

didnt this board orig. come from a belle and sebastian chatroom

coming full circle here

am0n, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

Hello everybody! This is a sister forum to I Love Music intended for chat about, well, anything and everything. Off you go then, get talking! :-)

-- DG, Wednesday, June 6, 2001 7:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

talking, indeed

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

Shouldn't ADMIN Meta bitching - enough. and EMO BLOG ENTRY threads be merged somehow?

Kerm, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

putting out fire with gasoline.

whereas your response is a shining example of diplomacy.

bnw, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

was this response is so much more pathetic and worse. putting out fire with gasoline.

-- balls, Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:43 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Explain?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

I think he means it just stirred shit up, which is true, it did in the short-term. But I think in the long run it will be good for ILX.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

blount hates 85% or more of the people who still post here so I don't know that his opinion amounts to canned manure - also it's funny to hear a former inveterate imagebombing vigilante talk about "putting out fire with gasoline"

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

XD

am0n, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

tom u mad cause he said the air force was as bad as the british

max, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

is it too reductive to see this new era as "lol, revenge of the britishes?"

gershy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:39 (seventeen years ago)

lol, revenge of the tru old skoolers, more like

felicity, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:39 (seventeen years ago)

= mostly brits and serious anglophiles

gershy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:40 (seventeen years ago)

or as balls would say "anglo-scarfy"

gershy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

Phil and Alex Greenspun are American, noob.

felicity, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

are they still here?

gershy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

are they posting?? xpost

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:45 (seventeen years ago)

Greenspun is luriqua

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:46 (seventeen years ago)

No. Especially since Alex is a dog.
xp

felicity, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:47 (seventeen years ago)

He's probably dead now. Gershy, revive him.

felicity, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:48 (seventeen years ago)

killfile /= hate (and 85% is a pretty low estimate eli). i know like 3 ilxors, have met two others, have communicated in any fashion at all offboard w/ 4 others maybe (one's ned). of the above total maybe 4 max still post on ilx at all ever? i think seriously w/ killfile (which seriously i don't use in any 'fuck u i crush yr head' way, more just an efficient 'nine bimble posts in a row really isn't an effective use of my time' tool. like adblocker) i'm not sure why the mods here are needed for anything beyond 'oops i put this on this board but had meant to put it on this other board' or 'oops i accidentally didn't googleproof saul williams name' or maybe the ethically borderline 'i misspelled a word - plz correct'. maybe. the 'lol hay guyz i dug up this shit elsewhere on the internet about this ilxor it's funny huh' stalker stuff seems possibly banworthy (and even then i think a warning is the best way to go unless it's just a longstanding pattern) but the 'o noes someone i don't know/have never met/will never meet on the internet made fun of something i said on the internet' stuff even at it's most tedious or bullying or repetitive sure as fuck isn't banworthy, nevermind enforceable in any fair way. ppl use killfile obnoxious ppl they don't "like"/have time for will basically disappear for them. on ilx. the real world's still gonna be a struggle. as for the 'if you repost someone else's post on ilx in italics you will be banned permanently' - a rwanda level crime against humanity to be sure, are you kidding me? pathetic, from the coding to this simultaneously weak-kneed and ott fiat this current group of mods are really just astoundingly pathetic and incompetent.

balls, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 03:47 (seventeen years ago)

well there you have it

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 04:27 (seventeen years ago)

My prediction is that all of these rules are forgotten about by September.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:42 (seventeen years ago)

is it too reductive to see this new era as "lol, revenge of the britishes?"

-- gershy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 02:39 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Yes.

My prediction is that all of these rules are forgotten about by September.

-- Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:42 (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

No.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 09:20 (seventeen years ago)

the only think im not getting is how c/ping posts = harassment.

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 09:22 (seventeen years ago)

There was more than just the c&p-ing, chaki. People were linking to shit off her workplace. I mean that's obv out of line?

Pashmina, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 09:24 (seventeen years ago)

yah ok i didnt know about that,

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 09:24 (seventeen years ago)

There was more than just the c&p-ing, chaki. People were linking to shit off her workplace. I mean that's obv out of line?

-- Pashmina, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 10:24 (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

In Gershy's defence though, it's not as if Suzy works at Shropshire County Council or a logistics firm in Gwent, is it? She's a public-facing figure who writes articles that are published into the public domain with the intent of getting as much attention as possible.

Hypothetically, say former ILM hardman and alcoholic Jess Harvell was still posting, and he made a post to the effect "I think the Dave Clarke Five suck". Would it be stalkerish to link to an Idolator post he wrote where he was all "Dave Clarke Five RULE!"?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 10:18 (seventeen years ago)

It wasn't gershy IIRC.

She's stated before that she doesn't want her workplace linked to and that should be enough. Jess used to link to articles that he wrote, didn't he?

Pashmina, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 10:31 (seventeen years ago)

Dom, your pursuit of this topic and all the posts you've made about me since your click got spanked have been incredibly disingenuous, to the point where I really don't want you invoking my name for any reason lest your interest be misconstrued. I am not the person intent on getting as much attention as possible here.

Understand this: I would never, ever start a thread about another poster's foibles (and when you get right down to it that is how the collective defines 'in character'). I respect people's boundaries, even if they have no self-restraint of their own. An ILXor's right to a level of privacy doesn't change because the poster is a writer or a DJ or because of who their friends are on ILX. This is just basic Golden Rule shit and I hope it's the last time this principle has to be explained for the remedial class.

suzy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 11:44 (seventeen years ago)

Suzy's correct, the right of an individual of note to not be discussed on an internet message board is tantamount.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 11:46 (seventeen years ago)

i don't know whether bitching about other posters is the best way to stop people bitching about other posters. i'm disturbed by the vein of hypocrisy running through this whole episode.

my prediction is that the more reasonable of the new policies will be lost in the rush to misappropriate the issue and redirect it to suit the cause of certain individuals on this board with an agenda to promote.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:02 (seventeen years ago)

Just keep trying to kick that football, Charlie Brown.

suzy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

suzy remind us, are you pro or anti meta-bitching?

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

ha ha, suzy otm. just yesterday i too posted some glib, non-sequiter nonsense to derail an argument i was losing.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

I was just saying to Colin Calderwood the other day that you remind me of Charlie Brown.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:46 (seventeen years ago)

Paul Lambert said he agreed.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

http://bp2.blogger.com/__t6oFjHvLm0/R1iA3rz-p1I/AAAAAAAAALk/q_X3LPxJaOI/s1600-h/lucy9tv.jpg

suzy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:55 (seventeen years ago)

Suzy this isn't really helping.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:08 (seventeen years ago)

good use of 'us' from noodle vague tho

blueski, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I just had a phone call from Sir Alex Ferguson and he agr

MPx4A, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:23 (seventeen years ago)

someone's done ju-ju on your keyboard.

Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:42 (seventeen years ago)

.I actually like the mpx schtick of not finish sentences
'!Its inspired me to stack all my punctuation at the front of mine

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

',!Im quirky motherfuckers

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

i think it was
squirrel police who
had the best typing
gimmick?

DG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

good use of 'us' from noodle vague tho

It was meant to be US but I missed the caps lock. Keep working on that whole pass-agg thing tho, it's going well I think.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

Man does ILX need a blowjob these days.

Michael White, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

lemonparty.jpg

am0n, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

but the 'o noes someone i don't know/have never met/will never meet on the internet made fun of something i said on the internet' stuff even at it's most tedious or bullying or repetitive sure as fuck isn't banworthy

But the 'o noes someone i don't know/have never met/will never meet on the internet made fun of something deleted/edited/banned me for something i said on the internet' sure as fuck is a serious matter.

bnw, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

so can we still compile suzy's lame namedrops as long as her workplace isnt mentioned?

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:39 (seventeen years ago)

ya still confused about this--all those namedrops are already archived on ilx? so is it a big problem to put them in one place?

max, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

its important to condense the lolz.

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

if people are embarrassed about shit they post they probably shouldnt post it

max, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.rightwinged.com/images/photoshops/yougotitdude.jpg

you got it dude

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)

There were plenty of reasons that creepy thread got killed.

suzy, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:47 (seventeen years ago)

It's what you said at the ceremony before the 77 attack, when ILX was being updated. You gave a speech, it sounded like it wasn't the one you prepared. You said that ILX was a flawed creation, and that people still zing one another for petty jealousy and greed. You said that ILX never asked itself why it deserved to survive. Maybe it doesn't.

omar little, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

Michael White otm.

rev, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

Since being rather lax about enforcing the rules set forth in the FAQ, every time we DO enforce them, a small set of posters immediately start setting about looking for explanations, blaming the mods for being either a. british or b. me, and asking stuff like "so if we do this with this it's ok?" So we decided that starting next week we're going to enforce the rules that are in the FAQ with more consistency, and Pash wrote a list of slightly more specific behavior patterns which are all basically described in the FAQ as was written years ago.

Basically if we'd not let the noize bored get away with all of this shit years ago we'd probably not be here now, is how I see it.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

I'm sitting here on like three or four different threads trying to explain this now when it's all at the top of the very first one.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

blaming the mods for being either a. british or b. me

Sounds like pretty good reasons to blame the mods.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

Does anybody else know of any other board where the moderators tolerate this level of sass from posters?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

www.furtopia.org

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

www.masochistsforum.net

omar little, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

ILX 1.1

John Justen, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:17 (seventeen years ago)

tom, why dont you just stop being a mod if you hate it so much? u obv luv it, dawg.

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:55 (seventeen years ago)

victim/hardman

Kerm, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)

TS: Victims vs hardmen

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 08:38 (seventeen years ago)

mercy vote for Dr. C over here for being old, british, hilariously admitting he misses kate masonic

-- El Tomboto, Friday, October 19, 2007 11:26 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark Link

Old is preferable to being a weasel-faced, loudmouth runty twat. For what it's worth your ILX hard-man act is about as convincingly tough as a bag of marshmallows soaked in your own piss. Loser.

-- Dr.C, Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:33 PM (4 months ago)

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 08:42 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.bustatoons.com/blog_images/blog_clash_of_the_titans.jpg

gershy, Thursday, 22 May 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)


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