Yeah, I think the other things besides the contract with Manny are that he feels mgmt doesn't take him at his word re: minor injuries (rightly or wrongly), that his rep for dogging it precedes him no matter what he actually does, and that the Sox PR guys basically let him twist in the wind whenever his well-established eccentricities/shortcomings come to light.
I'm not saying he should get a pass for spin-kicking traveling secretaries, but honestly he kinda has a point about everything else.
― govern yourself accordingly, Monday, 28 July 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Also non-local types should always keep an eye on bostonsportsmedia.com whenever Red Sox shit goes DEFCON 2; there's an entire galaxy of sub-CHB hacks at the Lawrence Eagle-Tribune and Lynn Daily Item, &c. who basically just drop everything to see who can yell "HURRR BROWN PEOPLE" the loudest whenever it gets juicy.
― govern yourself accordingly, Monday, 28 July 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Free of its racist intent, I'd love to run around yelling "HURRR BROWN PEOPLE," just because. Or maybe I want to just yell "HURRR" a whole lot.
― David R., Monday, 28 July 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link
See if wickedlocal.com needs a stringer, maybe?
― govern yourself accordingly, Monday, 28 July 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link
FUCKING DID IT I KNOW YOU DID IT HURRR
― David R., Monday, 28 July 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
(work in progress)
The anti-Manny obsession always has a undercurrent of playa-hatin Puritanism running through it.
― collardio gelatinous, Monday, 28 July 2008 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link
govern yourself accordingly, you are my poster of the month
― cankles, Monday, 28 July 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
OT: apparently one of those kids is taking classes at the college where I work. If I could touch the hem of his garment.
― govern yourself accordingly, Monday, 28 July 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
posting the above @ 4:20 = perfect synergy
― David R., Monday, 28 July 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd never read the traveling sec'y story til today.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 28 July 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Lawrence Eagle-Tribune
it's just the eagle-tribune. they took the "lawrence" off the masthead almost a decade ago.
― chicago kevin, Monday, 28 July 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Gammons issues a brutal takedown of Manny on ESPN:
- Has habitually asked out against tough righties this year (Joba, King Felix, Verlander, etc.) - All his teammates are sick of standing there and holding the bag for him - Thinks he can get a 4 contract/$100 million as a free agent this offseason - His teammates watched NYY dickheads Abreu, A-Rod, Damon take BP and longed for their professionalism.
Fuck, I just want to enjoy my regular-season baseball but the Sox never make it easy. There's little reason to watch this team these days unless Lester is pitching.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link
What the shit -- they're two games out of 1st place, and not even a year removed from winning the World Series! Fart in a cup and get over it!
― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Tonight they seemed absolutely listless. There's something missing, dunno what it is.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait, I'm retarded, THEY ARE ONLY .5 GAMES BACK, so plz chalk up any purported listlessness to this being late July and stow the sadsackery GAMMO in the overhead baggage compartment.
I would post the Manny-as-Van-Damme anigif, but I can't find it.
― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link
where is .gif of falling on his ass at Anaheim last week?
― gr8080, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link
There are some real hall of fame diva acts going on these days.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 05:04 (sixteen years ago) link
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― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link
he's only leading the team in home runs and just barely out of the lead for ops but yeah, his teammates get misty over the sight of a .240 bobby abreu taking bp.
whatfuckingever gammons. i hope watching manny win another ring give you another aneurysm your crotchety old fuck.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
ohboy, I thought only Yankee fans used "rings" like that
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, them and "football" fans lol?
― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Might be glue by now, but your semantical beefs are slightly eccentric, Morbs.
― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:21 PM (Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:21 PM) Bookmark Link
on this and so many other topics, morbs is wrong.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry, I'm still impressed by Luis Sojo's rings.
Happily I hardly ever hear what football fans say anymore.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link
oh kev, I remembered what you were gettin at last week... yeah, PITCHERS' win totals don't mean shit!
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link
the globe had a list of potential replacements for manny and among them was johnny damon. that's when i stopped reading so i don't know who else they had listed.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
ha ha hahahaha!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Armless in for Headless
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I can only imagine the rest of the list:
- Raul Ibanez - Fernando Tatis - Gabe Kapler - Jay Payton - Kevin Romine - maybe Barry Bonds (if only to shit on him)
― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/gallery/07_28_08_manny_replacement/
apparently it was HILARIOUS KOMEDY SLIDESHOW DAY at the globe yesterday
― govern yourself accordingly, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I want a Willie Mays Hayes '88 Donruss!
― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link
brent favre = token?
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Steve Shasta = tokin'?
― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.outincenterfield.com/images2/manny-brett.jpg
― carne asada, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Globe quotes Jerry Crasnick on "the most likely course of action":
The Red Sox keep Ramirez, hope he's gripped by a sudden fit of maturity over the next two months and realizes it's in his best interests to play hard and produce. Then the Sox decline his option and: a) funnel some of that $20 million into Pat Burrell, Jermaine Dye or another free agent; or b) dig into their deep well of prospects and make a trade. We always hear how ''creative'' Theo Epstein and his front office team are. This is a great opportunity to prove it.
I think the Sox signing Pat Burrell or Jermain Dye is about as likely as them signing Ricky Henderson.
― G00blar, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link
MANNY HAVE YOU CONSIDERED PRODUCING FOR ONCE?!?! Because you should do that.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link
nah,i think his beats would suck.
― carne asada, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Manny: Omar-S
Varitek: Bob Clearmountain
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link
"You can not copy Manny-R style. You can only copy a song that has already been produced by Manny-R."
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Pedroia: Brendan O'Brien?
― David R., Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link
how many of manny's teammates have come forward to stick up for him again, after this recent debacle? how many of his coaches? who in the front office? ownership? beat writers?
at some point, don't you have to say, shit, we appreciate your production & what you've done for us, but you've totally alienated yourself here, no one around you wants you here anymore, you haven't wanted to be here for several years & have in fact specifically asked our for several years, so we're going to trade you/let you go?
the (internet) fan reaction to the backlash against manny seems pretty preposterous & narrow-minded to me
― deeznuts, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, I'm sure that Manny would rather be playing anywhere other than a hitter's park in front of the most devoted fan base in the country. And I'm sure that he'd rather have been playing elsewhere and relieved himself of the burden of winning two world championships. And I'm sure that everyone on the Red Sox would have much happier lives now if they'd been golfing in October 2007 and 2004, which is quite possibly what they'd have been doing if Manny hadn't been there.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 08:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Who was it who wrote in a recent BP chat that basketcase players (Milton Bradley, Manny, Bonds, etc.) are the newest undervalued quantities in baseball? Whoever it was, they were OTM.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 08:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Rapozer, the mail linked to yr ILX account doesn't work. email me about Shea outing.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link
dunno if any of his teammates have come forward but even if they had do you think any of the beat writers are going to print it? manny doesn't talk to them and they have delighted in taking shots at him for the past five years.
they were more appreciative of a "dirt dog" like trot nixon who would get a (juice assisted) homer every third series and hit .260 but gosh darn it, his uniform was dirty and he was always good for a quote when you're on deadline.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link
fwiw if i had to live in boston and spend my time around boston assholes, youd be lucky if i only shoved one person to the ground
― max, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Morbz, I ILX-mailed you w/ my "real" e-mail.
― David R., Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh sorry that was off-topic.
Boston please don't trade Manny unless you get something like Juan Rivera++ in return
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/images/durer-rhinoceros.jpg
these seem to be proliferating.
― collardio gelatinous, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link