no, burks couldn't wait to leave. probably mike greenwell who couldn't wait to start racing stock cars in florida.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't understand why the Marlins would even want Manny.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't get that either since they're a pretty smart team in their own way. But fuck, to get this far down the path and then derail it? Are they getting kickbacks from the Yanks and Rays for stalling the Red Sox?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Well the team that gets really screwed here is the Pirates. They go from getting Hermida and three prospects to basically nothing.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean they get to keep Jason Bay, but chances are the next time the Pirates are good Jason Bay won't be or he'll be gone.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Pirates lose again shocker
― mizzell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link
slightly OT, but has will carroll ever been right about ANYTHING?
― deeznuts, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Have you?
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link
ive never been wrong about will carroll being wrong, thats for sure
― deeznuts, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link
WC's got the same hit / miss ratio as most rumor guys, with (unfortunately for him) the addition stigma of that Pete Rose fiasco. Hate him for his occasional lapse into Larry King speak, not for his spotty sources.
― David R., Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
the problem is that he constantly takes obvious (spotty) hearsay & then regurgitates it as fact so he can make news, with consistently embarrassing results. not to be read or trusted.
― deeznuts, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Which makes him different from sportwriter X or Y how?
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
"Will Carroll (12:15:23 PM PT): Still confirming, but looks like Jason Bay to Tampa for Reid Brignac and Jeff Niemann."
A little slow on this rumor since it was posted on ESPN an hour or so ago.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link
im not sure what david means by 'larry king speak', but the routine arrogance with which he says what he says is whats so off-putting - sure thats common among sportswriters but theres a big difference between stating personal opinions with authority & stating other peoples opinions/speculation as solid fact, which is carroll's completely laughable schtick
― deeznuts, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
hasnt Bay been about as productive as Manny this year?
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Just about, yeah. And as pathetic defensively according to DTs too.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Kevin Goldstein (12:30:50 PM PT): LeverettB24 (Boston, MA): If you were the Red Sox, wouldn't you take Kemp for Manny?
We have about 129 variations of this question in the que. This deal is not available. I repeat. This deal is not available.
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link
COME ON NED
― David R., Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Ahhhh why am I sticking around for this when I could go get beers.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, that's a good question dude.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
considering also that 4pm may come and go without news of last-minute deals
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Truth....take it easy bros. I'll be back for hand-wringing and tears I'm sure.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link
boston.com web site crashed, did something happen?!?!?
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
never mind, after two attempts and getting "service temporarily unavailable" it's back.
Yeah, no news so far, and SOSH is obviously getting hammered. Rob Neyer's just babbling about "Kavalier and Clay" in his ESPN chat.
― govern yourself accordingly, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
It's happening.
― collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Edes on NESN: "I'm being told that a trade has gone down with Manny Ramirez. No details yet, but something is in the commissioner's office."
― collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Jason Bay coming back, sounds like.
― govern yourself accordingly, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
why would the pirates want manny?
Carroll says to the dodgers
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know why the Red Sox just didn't take Kemp? Obviously there are more players involved than these three.
― govern yourself accordingly, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
http://radio.goldseek.com/Siren_animated.gifMANNY TO IRAQ... DEVELOPINGhttp://radio.goldseek.com/Siren_animated.gif
― max, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Kemp almost certainly wasn't offered.
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Jason Bay is headed to Boston as part of the deal, SI.com has learned. The Pirates will get four minor leaguers in the three-way trade.
Whuh-oh.
― govern yourself accordingly, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
RACIALISM
actually, I have no idea, aside from Kemp still being wet behind the ears, and Bay having a solid track record of Manny-lite production
(xpost)
― David R., Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
The 4 MLers:
Dylan Dylan Dylan Charlie Zink
because he throws HOT FIYAH
In the comments of Foxsports: The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and releiver Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Jonathon is fuck. 3:30pm Comment
Jonathon is WELCOME TO ST. PETE JASON BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......maybe? 3:16pm Comment
Jonathon is WELCOME TO ST. PETE JASON BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2:29pm Comment
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Brandon Moss. I still like Hansen, but he definitely isn't ML-ready.
― govern yourself accordingly, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Ha -- if only it was Damian Moss!
― David R., Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
i think i might cry
― mizzell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
RIP MANNY ;_;
― David R., Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Eagerly anticipating the Plaschke reaction.
― Andy K, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
srsly xpost
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh shit, I'm gonna have to call and break the news to my mom.
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
that's a pretty good haul for the pirates imo!
― cankles, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Breaking news: Red Sox 4% whiter, less interesting.
― Garrett Martin, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
4% whiter, 40% less interesting
― collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm happy for Andy LaRoche.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The Dodgers sure have a lot of outfielders.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link