Don't know that I've ever seen a manager questioned over the course of two post-season games like Mattingly has been thus far--he's in Grady Little/Ron Washington territory.
― clemenza, Saturday, 12 October 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
I can think of some dubiously managed World Series that wd've been more buzzed about if there had been internets -- eg 2001. (esp by the guy who won)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 October 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
right down the middle
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
good game
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 October 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
I came in late, what did Donnie do wrong today? I'm not nec buying Michael Young as a mistake.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 October 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
go bucs
― mookieproof, Saturday, 12 October 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
he's still an alleged hitter. xp
just got in for the Young ph, didnt think game wd be this fast even with these pitchers.
I'm fairly sure it's always been called that way.
I still don't care; it's wrong.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:13 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ffs morbs did you look at that picture i posted, he was out. at the very least there's not enough evidence to say for sure there was no tag
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 October 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
I saw that Tommy Herr tweeted that pic this morning -- I don't see any evidence of a tag in it. Slo-mo video looked fairly clear to me this morning.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 October 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
lol STL is already up 2-0 before the ALDS starts
― ^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Saturday, 12 October 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
one series always plays 2 games first, it seems
lol Puig:
http://www.baseballnation.com/hot-corner/2013/10/12/4830144/mark-ellis-yadier-molina-safe-gif-beltran-throw-bees-pants
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 October 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
I came in late, what did Donnie do wrong today? I'm not nec buying Michael Young as a mistake. --eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius)
Only reason Donnie is getting destroyed for his decisions is moody on the team is executing anything. It's easier to question 2-3 decisions than pick apart 40 at bats of futility
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
mattingly looked hella depressed at the post game press conference, barely looking up, mumbling, not a great show of saught after leadership qualities
― lag∞n, Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:44 PM
I need to bookmark this post for future Braves threads.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
But maybe this is like the thing that your mom did when you fucked up as a kid, getting so bummed out by you failure that you're motivated to not fuck up so they can be happy again.
― reckless woo (Z S), Sunday, 13 October 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
im just saying if youre wondering why the media is all over him, not a great understanding of media 101, as to how it plays out w the team i have no idea
― lag∞n, Sunday, 13 October 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/todd-thomas-stl/what-do-the-cards-have yadiyadiyadi
― brand nubian wafers (bnw), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
jayson stark brings his trademark deep analysis:
1. Do the mathThere's an important principle to remember here: When a team is down, two games to none, it means the series couldn't possibly be more one-sided after two games. But if that team wins Game 3 and only trails 2-1, the series couldn't possibly be closer after three games.
There's an important principle to remember here: When a team is down, two games to none, it means the series couldn't possibly be more one-sided after two games. But if that team wins Game 3 and only trails 2-1, the series couldn't possibly be closer after three games.
― reckless woo (Z S), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
gonna need to think about this
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
hah wow
― johnny crunch, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
*does the math*
― johnny crunch, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
Scully did a preamble about General Wainwright and Corregidor
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
no one else watching = east coast bias
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
Does Jayson Stark smoke a lot of dank doobage before he posts?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link
If this was mid-season Jon Jay would be riding the bench for his terrible fielding.
btw I'm watching this on a HD big screen tv for the first time in months and holy moly this is great.
PS damn you Jon jay.
― reckless woo (Z S), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
damn it
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
well at least it didn't go out
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:23 (ten years ago) link
brian mccann seethes
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:23 (ten years ago) link
they should hit him in the ribs next time he comes up
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
Hershiser criticizing Beltran, thinking he could've possibly caught that if he hadn't been deked by Puig's upraised arms at the plate.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
lousy baserunning and defense not the Cardinal Way
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
@miklasz: Someone please pass this on to Charley Steiner and Rick Monday: Jon Jay minus 10 in defensive runs saved, 32nd among MLB CF.
They found our weakness U_U
― brand nubian wafers (bnw), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
he was safe
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
Yep
― reckless woo (Z S), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link
cracked rib no big deal for Hanley
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link
I would be crying so hard
― reckless woo (Z S), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
A relatively quick postseason game, finally.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
oh well
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link
nbd
― reckless woo (Z S), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
"As a player, I just think he doesn't know [about how to act]," Cardinals outfielder Carlos Beltran said. "That's what I think. He really doesn't know. He must think that he's still playing somewhere else."He has a lot of passion," Beltran said. "No doubt about that. Great ability. Great talent. I think, with time, he'll learn that you've got to act with a little bit more calm."So you know, he's going to learn. It's going to take him time, but he's going to learn. When you try to do those things sometimes, you know, you get that attention. And you don't want to wake up nobody. I always thought if you hit a home run off a pitcher, you've got to make him believe he made a mistake. You don't wake him up. Or next time, the pitcher's going to be more focused with you and he's going to try harder to get you out."So he will learn," Beltran concluded. "I don't think he's a bad kid. I just think he doesn't know right now."But when Beltran was asked, "Did Yasiel Puig just 'wake up' the Cardinals?" he made it obvious that the alarm bells had just sounded -- without actually saying that."I'm in the outfield," Beltran said, trying to choose his words carefully. "I mean, it's not great. To me, I don't like it. But what can I say? I don't play for them. I just play over here. I just need to do my job. It is what it is."
"He has a lot of passion," Beltran said. "No doubt about that. Great ability. Great talent. I think, with time, he'll learn that you've got to act with a little bit more calm.
"So you know, he's going to learn. It's going to take him time, but he's going to learn. When you try to do those things sometimes, you know, you get that attention. And you don't want to wake up nobody. I always thought if you hit a home run off a pitcher, you've got to make him believe he made a mistake. You don't wake him up. Or next time, the pitcher's going to be more focused with you and he's going to try harder to get you out.
"So he will learn," Beltran concluded. "I don't think he's a bad kid. I just think he doesn't know right now."
But when Beltran was asked, "Did Yasiel Puig just 'wake up' the Cardinals?" he made it obvious that the alarm bells had just sounded -- without actually saying that.
"I'm in the outfield," Beltran said, trying to choose his words carefully. "I mean, it's not great. To me, I don't like it. But what can I say? I don't play for them. I just play over here. I just need to do my job. It is what it is."
http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9827035/yasiel-puig-made-mark-game-3-win-los-angeles-dodgers-mlb
― Andy K, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link
which is the more hilarious disparity between MLB and the NFL, level of PED-use sanctimony or tsk-tsking about "celebration" of one's feats?
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
ha yeah was just thinking about that
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
oh no a guy looked at a home run he hit, maybe try not letting him hit home runs if it bothers you so much
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
well, I will grant it's a more unique event when a guy looks at a triple he hits.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
has anyone ever looked at triple before, that was impressive
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWlhYi_CQAAA-Sz.jpg
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Grant Brisbee finds that teams fielding three stinko outfielders tend to be good enough to do so.
http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/10/15/4839934/st-louis-cardinals-outfield-defense
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
if Puig is pissing off the Cardinal outfielders then he must be doing something right
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
never looked at jay's defensive numbers before but i always thought it was weird that a chubby little dude like him played center
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
He used to be mediocre, and every once in a while he'd make a flashy play (probably because of bad initial reads or positioning or pathing that caused him to have to exert more effort than necessary) so people thought of him as a defensive plus.
This year he hasn't made the flashy plays and his mediocre skills have descended into a liability.
― reckless woo (Z S), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link
http://deadspin.com/why-dont-the-st-louis-cardinals-respect-the-game-1445679050
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link