2013 NLCS: Los Angeles Dodgers vs. St. Louis Cardinals

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That's what I was thinking of (xpost). At any given time there are, what, maybe five to ten starting pitchers who are more or less in their prime and on a HOF track? Today's list starts with Verlander, Kershaw, and Felix, and you can fill in the rest different ways. I don't think Andujar was one of those pitchers in 1985, but I'd have to go back and check.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 October 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

wasn't alive at the time, but andujar had a career losing record coming into 1985, so i doubt it

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

i was wondering, in WAR, who is best starting pitcher of the past 5 years?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

Verlander -- Lee -- Felix -- Kershaw -- Greinke (in fWAR)

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link

no idea how to find that in bb-ref but kershaw has a 0.1 lead on verlander there

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

kershaw would still look like a different pitcher in most other parks

Not so different -- his home/road splits this year were almost identical, his ERA was half a run higher on the road but the difference is probably due to luck, because his peripherals are virtually the same.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

Dodger stadium is interesting for park factors... the symmetric outfield suppresses doubles and triples, night games you dont see many home runs, but when its warm you get an uptick. Whats the stat equivalent for that? hehe

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

xp h/r splits are never a reliable way of determining that, especially in a 1-season sample size (for his career his road ERA is 0.86 higher)

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

during andujar's time i remember that the dominant pitchers everyone seemed to fear were guys like the usual HOF suspects + candelaria, mario soto, steve rogers, dave stieb, frank viola, and yeah andujar for several years. but he was only "great" for 3 seasons iirc.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

some of those guys were incredibly good too. perennial all-stars, guys who started the all-star game, deservedly feared.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link


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