2014 NLDS: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

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yeah, these marathons will be great for growing the game with all those fakey FIFA World Cup hipsters

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 October 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link

lol at jp howell praising the heavens

mookieproof, Sunday, 5 October 2014 04:46 (ten years ago) link

Kemp, one hand

can't really expect Jansen not to surrender the lead, it must be in the rules

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 October 2014 04:50 (ten years ago) link

why is Lasorda not sitting with Magic? Getting a new intestine?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 October 2014 05:03 (ten years ago) link

hey, we might have one 5-game series here

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 October 2014 05:07 (ten years ago) link

Game over? No blown save + extra innings, no credibility.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 5 October 2014 05:07 (ten years ago) link

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/97769336/dodgers-tab-ace-clayton-kershaw-for-game-4-on-short-rest

I don't know--I always start from the assumption that this is a bad move, even though I know it sometimes works out. I'd rather have a rested Kershaw for game 5, with Greinke ready to go in Game 1 of the LCS if you win. No real sample to speak of in the regular season, but what is there isn't good: the only time he's pitched on three days rest was in 2008, when he went one inning of middle relief against the Giants, giving up two hits and a walk.

clemenza, Monday, 6 October 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

Haven't they done something similar last year?

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Not during the regular season that I can see. If they tried it in the playoffs, I assume it didn't work out.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

You're right, they did try it against Atlanta, and it worked out. Kershaw pitched the 5th game on three days rest, and went six innings: 3 H, 6 K, 1 BB, 2 R, neither earned. He left with the score tied 2-2, Dodgers went on to win.

I'd still hold him back. As I've said before, my feelings on that are heavily influenced by the way the Jays used Stieb in the '85 ALCS.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

Boy, the ump missed that one.

Everyone in the booth thinks Kershaw in Game 4 is a "no-brainer." I'll amend my earlier post: if the Dodgers lose tonight, I can see the case for pitching him. If they win, hold him back.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 01:29 (ten years ago) link

few things in sports as beautiful as watching a center fielder make a play on the dead run with his back to the plate

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 October 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link

Scully: "Shades of Terry Moore!"

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 01:39 (ten years ago) link

Wow, 7 SOs in a row for Puig

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link

Wow, 3 HRs in 3 games for marp

Wow, Harold Reynolds is really annoying

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link

Lollygag standup triple

Andy K, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 02:52 (ten years ago) link

pweeeeeg

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 October 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link

agh, the stream i was using went down

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link

strikout.co has a million

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 03:11 (ten years ago) link

thanks!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 03:12 (ten years ago) link

errrr strikeout.co

i just typed "strikout" again by accident apparently my brain is broken wrt this word

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link

bullpen more like lolpen

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link

Cardinals were also last in the league in HR? Getting closer to a strange improbability that has surely never happened before.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 03:52 (ten years ago) link

if the cardinals play the orioles in the world series it will be the first time that teams named after birds have battled for the title. neat huh? #jaysonstark

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link

lol almost had me there - right?

now the great Short Rest Test

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 04:17 (ten years ago) link

i guess we don't have rain delays in the PS anymore, as in the days of Bowie Kuhn

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 05:01 (ten years ago) link

yay, extra game(s?)

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:56 (ten years ago) link

ah, wrong game lol

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:57 (ten years ago) link

A rundown of the eight three-days-rest starts in divisional series since 2013, including Kershaw last year:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/52331/poll-right-move-to-start-kershaw

Two bad ones, six that more or less worked out. I voted for "Yes, but only if they're down in the series." They're down in the series.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:30 (ten years ago) link

You can't really justify not using the best pitcher in baseball in a must-win game. It's like losing a playoff game in the late innings without using your closer.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link

puig benched

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link

plus having Zack for Game 5 should be good

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

Mattingly on Matt Carpenter: "I'm thinking Stan Musial is somewhere rolling around in that body."

So there's a clip when this is relayed to Carpenter in the post-game and he gives a nice "gosh that's flattering" answer. But right before it you hear Lackey say "siiick". Kind of funny.

bnw, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

Redbirds prepping Lynn to start Game 5 or Game 1 NLCS b/c of Waino's elbow. http://bit.ly/1uy4T3c

bnw, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 19:45 (ten years ago) link

@truebluela
Don Mattingly keeps saying, "This gives us the best chance to win today" over and over again. Like he's trying to convince himself

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/10/7/6941103/nlds-2014-dodgers-cardinals-yasiel-puig-slump-don-mattingly-baseball-quotable

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

i'll be disappointed if there's no giants/dodgers series but at the same time, half a dozen parking lot murders will probably be avoided

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link

@molly_knight
Yadi worked Puig like a marionette last post-season, and Puig knew it. He's in his head again.

@ProductiveOuts
"Just feel like mentally we feel like we have to give Yas a break." Mattingly on the KLAC pregame show

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link

@KenTremendous
Well, it makes sense. I mean Puig led the team in OPS for the season, sure, but look at his last 12 at bats! #Mattingly

Andy K, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link

a nice long winter break

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone read the Alan Licht book? I leafed through it a couple times (and enjoyed it!), but never pulled the trigger on it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

Lol wrong thread.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

wrong "ILB"!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link

@robneyer
oh, and by the way, Shelby Miller throws a ton of fastballs and Puig is one of the Dodgers' best fastball hitters (Ethier isn't)

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link

10 pitches, 10 fastballs in the 1st

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link

That last one was...wobbly.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link

cardinals basically taking two strikes in each at-bat, kershaw at 30 pitches in two innings

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

The strikeouts are nice, but yeah, the meter's running.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link

Still, so far this is giving me the impression its working.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link

How could the Cardinals let that one pass? Obviously a foul ball. (I don't think the Dodgers would have won an appeal on the pick-off, though.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link

94 pitches--"low-stress," they'd probably argue in the booth, but I'd be stressed. Maybe Mattingly will leave him out for the 7th and 8th if nobody reaches base.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:13 (ten years ago) link


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