A Thread For Starting Pitchers That Are Doing Really Well

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thru 7

last rookie to do a card trick?

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link

can't believe you're wasting precious keystrokes on something so trivial

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:18 (nine years ago) link

Joe Panik is fucking slaughtering my HACKING MASS team, that's what's important.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:19 (nine years ago) link

thru 8

last rook was Buchholz in 2007

Mets haven't been 0-hit since Darryl Kile in '93

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link

was listening on the bus and will be able to see last inning.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:37 (nine years ago) link

lol that called strike to granderson

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link

98 game score

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link

@JeffPassan
Only five times before have pitchers thrown a no-hitter with no walks and plunked even one batter: Burdette, Horlen, Singer, Forsch, Brown.

Andy K, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link

@JeffPassan
Never before Chris Heston had anyone thrown a no-hitter with more than two HBP. Virgil Trucks and Bo Belinsky each hit a pair apiece.

Andy K, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:56 (nine years ago) link

scherzer game score: 100

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 June 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

Pineda through 6

JoeStork, Thursday, 18 June 2015 00:55 (nine years ago) link

nm

JoeStork, Thursday, 18 June 2015 01:00 (nine years ago) link

scherzer perfect through five, 55 pitches

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link

seven, 78

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link

Whoa, close.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link

lol damn

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

oopsie

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link

What a cheap HBP...anyway, I wonder if that's the closest anyone's come since Vander Meer. And I'm quite sure Scherzer was more dominant than Vander Meer.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

wau scherzer, wish I'd had enough presence of mind to start when I got the perfect through 6 at bat notification

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

*start watching

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

No surprise, not even remotely close, even allowing for strikeout inflation:

Scherzer -- 18 IP, 1 hit, 26 K, 0 BB, 1 HBP
Vander Meer -- 18 IP, 0 hits, 11 K, 11 BB, 0 HBP

clemenza, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

best consecutive starts of all time m/l

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

game scores 100, 97

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

He gets the phillies next time

nomar, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link

Couldn't find anything especially notable before or after Koufax's no-hitters. Found this for Pedro in 1999:

17 IP, 1 run, 3 hits, 32 K, 3 BB, 1 HBP, GS of 90/98

It's got to be the best back-to-back ever.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

(Scherzer, I mean.)

clemenza, Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

i'm told there have never before been back-to-back 97+ game scores

lots of hot takes already on tabata, of course. it's going to be pretty shitty if mccutchen gets drilled tomorrow because of that

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link

Steib's consecutive one-hitters in '88:

18 IP, 0 runs, 2 hits, 12 K, 3 BB, 2 HBP, Game Scores 91/88

Last two starts of the season...anyway, not close to Scherzer past hits and runs.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 June 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link

One more--Jim Tobin in 1944 (according to Jayson Stark, the only other time someone pitched a no-hitter and one-hitter back-to-back):

18 IP, 0 runs, 1 hit, 6 K (none in the one-hitter), 3 BB, 0 HBP, Game Scores 84/91

Different game, but again, not close.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 June 2015 01:20 (nine years ago) link

ah dang i've missed this, will watch tomorrow.

Scherzer -- 18 IP, 1 hit, 26 K, 0 BB, 1 HBP

lol that xfip.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 21 June 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link

kinda fascinating to compare the career arcs of scherzer and verlander.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 21 June 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

strange that umpires will add extra strikes in the 9th for a no-hitter but not deny a HBP that's leaned into, EXPPLICITLY AGAONST THE RULES.

(it was famously called to preserve the Drysdale '68 scoreless streak)

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link

I guess HBP's can't be challenged, or they would have challenged the call. I can't think of a reason why they shouldn't be challenged though, unless umps feel it falls into the same category as arguing balls and strikes.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 21 June 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

There's a very long answer to this question that'll be in front of the paywall for at least the next few hours:

In his last two starts, Scherzer has game scores of 100 and 97. Has anyone ever had consecutive games above 95...or 90 for that matter?
Asked by: Chihuahua332

http://www.billjamesonline.com/hey_bill/#46480

clemenza, Monday, 22 June 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link

It's not 1998, you don't have to wait for Bill James.

Here's another way to look at it: Scherzer had back-to-back Game Scores of 100 and 97. According to the Baseball-Reference Play Index, since 1914 only one starter had registered consecutive Game Scores of at least 95 or higher in the same season: R.A. Dickey of the New York Mets in 2012, when the knuckleballer threw back-to-back one-hitters, with two walks and 25 strikeouts (and an unearned run in one of the games). His Game Scores were 95 and 96. Nolan Ryan, author of seven no-hitters, came closest to matching Vander Meer when he pitched a no-hitter on July 15, 1973, a 17-strikeout game that scored 100. In his next start, he took a no-hitter into the seventh inning (although he'd allowed an unearned run in the first). Ryan would pitch into the 11th inning that day, eventually losing the game and finishing with a Game Score of 87.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/59400/max-scherzer-now-the-best-pitcher-in-the-game

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 June 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link

(you would probably use a one-year subscrip to the Play Index a lot more than i would, clem -- you can also get a discount with the coupon code "bp")

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 June 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link

marco estrada is perfect through seven

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link

wrong day for the jays to go silent at the plate

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link

Donaldson!!!

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

u gotta box him out, rays fans!

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

god logan forsythe what an asshole

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link

sadness

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link

I always liked Estrada; great to see him do well

Evan R, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

this game continues to be ridiculous, btw

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

Do the Rays have any real hits in this game? Everything is a bloop or a squibber between a bunch of fielders.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

kiermeier's double in the ninth was a real hit (and a single for pretty much everyone else)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

its still going? christ on a cracker

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

Kinda early, but given the context, Max Scherzer...

Andy K, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link


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