Definitely. And if they ever get out from under the Pujols contract, they can go get him some help.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link
that WAR above seems very conservative...am I missing something? A decline in age 30 season to 4.1? His avg seasonal WAR (discounting 40 gm rookie season) is 9.1
GIven this projection (and assuming he maintains current avg in 2019/20) he would end the contract 12th in WAR btw Musial and Hornsby
― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link
Or I guess this is just what he would minimally need to do in order to justify the $?
― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link
I’m more interested in what his surplus value is w that contract
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link
― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
correct
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:04 (five years ago) link
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mike-trout-is-a-430-million-bargain/
The title is, if things go as expected, absolutely true, but it made me laugh anyway because every 538 title is constructed the same way, sports and politics both. They had that title ready to go no matter what he signed for.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 22:56 (five years ago) link
trout's contract compared to others, with everything converted to 2019 dollars:
https://i.imgur.com/mbm4u8M.png"I’ve included two Trout contracts below. The first is the $426.5 million figure representing the total value of the money owed to Trout; the second is Trout’s extension, assuming 5% inflation in the following two seasons."
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mike-trout-leaves-money-on-the-table-again/
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 01:31 (five years ago) link
Those who call Mke Trout “boring” think the Karkrasians are celebrities. Trout cares about being the best, 3.9 or 4.0 to first, winning, being a great teammate, person, without need for celebrity or entourage.— Peter Gammons (@pgammo) March 20, 2019
― Andy K, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link
lolll
― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link
How exactly is the $10M/WAR number calculated? I always see these kinds of numbers but am never completely sure where they come from. Two win players are definitely not getting $20M/yr on the open market now. I'm assuming they look at every current player who signed via free agency and are calculating the average WAR they've put up over the length of their contract.
For example, take Albert Pujols' contract, he's making $24M/yr and he's averaged about 1.5 WAR/yr (I'm estimating) over the seven years of his contract, so that's $16M per win per year. Factor in all free agents in the same way, and you get to $10M/WAR.
If this is how it's done, I'm not sure I buy it. Is inflation taken into account? What about players who sign extensions that buy out their free agent years? Fewer big stars even reach free agency, and you could argue that the lesser players that do are increasingly overpaid, which makes WAR more expensive on the open market. etc.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link
leg cramp!
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26383539/trout-suffers-leg-cramp-escapes-serious-injury
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 11:43 (five years ago) link
holy cow I missed that massive contract he signed, goof on him
― frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link
"I got a good raspberry," he said with a laugh
michael
"But it's all good now. I'm fine. Other than that, I got a strawberry. That's it."
MICHAEL
WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING IT DIFFERENT BERRIES
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
a raspberry is a Bronx cheer, he should know that
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
Trout just had one of the best series by anyone, ever. He was 6-for-11 with five HRs and six walks -- contributing to a 2.631 OPS, the third-highest by anyone in a four-game series in MLB history (min. 15 PA).The highest ever was 3.111 by Babe Ruth in June of 1921 against the Tigers. He was 8-for-12 with six HRs and six walks in that series at the Polo Grounds. He also started and won a game on the mound in that series, striking out Ty Cobb.The second-highest OPS ever was 2.850 by Mickey Mantle in July of 1962 against the A's, as he launched five HRs and walked six times.
The highest ever was 3.111 by Babe Ruth in June of 1921 against the Tigers. He was 8-for-12 with six HRs and six walks in that series at the Polo Grounds. He also started and won a game on the mound in that series, striking out Ty Cobb.
The second-highest OPS ever was 2.850 by Mickey Mantle in July of 1962 against the A's, as he launched five HRs and walked six times.
― mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 13:06 (five years ago) link
christ
― k3vin k., Monday, 8 April 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link
i watched most of the 2-HR game the other night, and like mookieproof i have no idea why anyone pitches to him given that lineup
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:53 (five years ago) link
AL player of the week for the first time since july 2015 (?!?)
― mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
that does not seem possible
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:50 (five years ago) link
TIE for #91, i repeat, TIE for #91
https://i.imgur.com/sA61B56.jpg(tie) 91. Captain Beefheart - Frownland (1:39)0.3672 points5 votes
https://i.imgur.com/YqsqlKS.jpg(tie) 91. Napalm Death - You Suffer (0:02)0.3672 points8 votes
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
the beefheart song is the first song on the countdown that i officially do not like
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link
i have been getting into earlier beefheart recently, actually. but i do not understand what people are hearing in frownland
but beefheart wouldn't be beefheart if there weren't a bunch of people on the side going "i don't know what people are hearing in this", so i'm just playing the role
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link
um
i am sorry
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link
btw you all should check out this poll over here, it's great
Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:01 (five years ago) link
I thought it was maybe a “trout” mask replica thing
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:01 (five years ago) link
Trout, Mike - replica jersey
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
he's so hot right now that he literally opened a wormhole in this thread
― frogbs, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
trout mask replica was my keeper league team name for a while, but nobody got it. i changed it to mike 'ehrman' trout.
― to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link
this is my punishment for never getting around to voting
― mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
:-(
2019 injury roll/discussion
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 04:32 (five years ago) link
seems like it’s minor, thankfully
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link
WAR is live on our site and (no surprise) Mike Trout leads the majorsHis 1.8 WAR in 12 games would pro-rate to 24.3 WAR in the course of a full 162-game season pic.twitter.com/b2DrrKI6l4— Baseball Reference (@baseball_ref) April 10, 2019
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link
Trout Neck Replica
― Andy K, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:51 (five years ago) link
Mike Trout Walk Rate by season since 2014:2019 - 26.5%2018 - 20.1%2017 - 18.5%2016 - 17.0%2015 - 13.5%2014 - 11.8%Teams are getting smarter apparently.— Daren Willman (@darenw) April 11, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
at this rate his 2030 season will feature four at-bats
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link
As with Bonds, though, is there not a threshold where you're now walking the player too often?
― clemenza, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link
well he's slugging .938 so far, so it doesn't quite make sense to walk him . . . but it's pretty close
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:01 (five years ago) link
if there's RISP i imagine a .938 looks very walkable!
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
This is the setup Mike Trout gets on a 3-0 count in a tie game pic.twitter.com/xj91tTRCj1— David Adler (@_dadler) April 25, 2019
― mookieproof, Friday, 26 April 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link
Is Trout's drastically reduced strikeout rate--31 games, 16 K (against 31 BB)--an early-season fluke or a conscious change in his approach?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:23 (five years ago) link
...or a conscious change in opposing pitchers' approach? He's on track to log 33 IBB's this season (previous high 25).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link
― clemenza, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 8:23 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
honestly haven’t watched much of him this year but he struck out like twice in his first dozen or so games, so I’d bet he’s regressing back to near his normal mean
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
https://cdn-blogs.fangraphs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Trout-2019-Contact.png
from https://blogs.fangraphs.com/pitchers-plan-and-mike-trout-laughs/
― na (NA), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
attack trout on the outside outside outside corner, it’s the only way
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
it’s cool that he makes contact with 100% of the pitches thrown at his face
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
great article btw, don’t think I recognize the writer
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
Ben Lindbergh:
Because he’s stopped swinging at the toughest pitches to hit but still attacks the fat ones—Baseball Savant says he’s swung at 80 percent of deliveries down the middle, his highest rate in the five-season Statcast era—Trout has also kept increasing his contact rates to new seasonal highs, even as the league’s contact rate has continued to decline.
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/6/21/18700398/mike-trout-los-angeles-angels-playoffs-war-mediocrity-500-record
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:30 (five years ago) link
this fucking guy.
― mookieproof, Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:09 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― omar little, Monday, 8 July 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
Having a huge game.
― clemenza, Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:22 (five years ago) link