Yeah, the other one was my guess as he had a juggernaut career spanning 4 decades.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
there have been 4 teams which had 3 different position players put up 7+ fWAR in a single season. what are they?(hint: obviously one of these teams is the cardinals. sorry. i can also give you the decades for each of these 4 seasons, if wanted)
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 April 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link
One of them must be a Gehrig-Ruth team, since there were so many seasons where those two did it.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
For the Cardinals, I'll guess it's a Pujols-Rolen-Edmonds team, although I'm not sure if there was a season where they were together.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
Man, I'm good.
I don't think the Big Red Machine ever extended beyond Morgan/Bench, although Rose may have edged over 7.0 somewhere in there, so that's my third guess. Fourth would be the 2001 Mariners.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link
was thinking one would be griffey/a-rod/edgar but gar only put up 7 once, before a-rod debuted
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link
before his first full season, rather
those three did combine for 24.8!!!!!!!!!!!!! in 96 though
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link
didn't happen with the killer b's or bash bros, though biggio and bagwell both had 8+ in 97
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
Not any of those Reds teams either...I don't think the '98 Yankees; they were deep, but I don't think they had huge star seasons in their everyday lineup. Maybe one of the A's teams from around 1930?
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
the 27 yankees are incredible for this - ruth/gehrig/combs combined for 32.3........ and combs was still under 7
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
Oh--then I was wrong about the '27 Yankees. Combs is at 7.0 on Baseball Reference...and I see now the question has to do with Fangraphs.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
spoiler alert
it did happen 2 years later - ruth/gehrig/lazzeri did it with exactly 10 fewer WAR than the 27 trio (7.8/7.3/7.2)
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link
what bums
Hey, trivia guy, we need two more answers.
― clemenza, Monday, 20 April 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
This gave me much to ponder on my morning walk. Possibility, which I will check after posting--wondering if Bonds/Kent/fluke-season Rich Aurilia were in alignment?
― clemenza, Monday, 20 April 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
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― mookieproof, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
see thread for example questions
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
(xpost) No on Bonds/Kent/Aurilia, at least on Baseball Reference. '29 Yankees, '04 Cardinals...
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
The St. Louis hint makes me think it's a red-herring, like the Blues or something.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
errr Browns
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
shit, sorry! i thought i had this thread bookmarked, so when it didn't come up i assumed no one cared about the trivia question. OOPS!
you've got 2 of the 4:
1929 Yankees (Ruth, Gehrig, Lazzeri)2004 Cardinals (Rolen, Edmonds, Pujols)
the other two are much more difficult. i'll give you two clues, once for each:
1) post-war 1940s league champion featuring a top 10 joe posnanski player2) while mantle and maris were hogging the attention, this team with a pair of slugging outfielders was...also playing (alex trebek i am not)
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link
1) post-war 1940s league champion featuring a top 10 joe posnanski player
evil hint, had to figure this one out through blunt force
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link
and i got the last one, mostly through cheating, but i've never really been good with the early 60s.
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link
None of the Williams-Red Sox, Musial-Cardinals, or Mantle/Maris-Yankees teams check out on Baseball Reference.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:52 (four years ago) link
those were my first two thoughts
the second one is 1961 but not expressly mantle/maris, as hinted
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link
and only one of the 2 teams passes the threshold in rWAR
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:17 (four years ago) link
Okay, now I get it--'61 Tigers.
Going through Fangraphs is too much work; is the other one a Williams or Musial team?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link
nope!
it's really hard. it would be astounding if you got this (or anyone else).
all three of the players' first names are three letters long.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:11 (four years ago) link
and the legendary top 10 player was a 42-year old at the beginning of his MLB career
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:29 (four years ago) link
AhJoe/Ken/Lou...?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:33 (four years ago) link
i'd never even heard of ken keltner
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:34 (four years ago) link
Me neither
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:35 (four years ago) link
That's what threw me: you don't say so, but I mistakenly assumed the Posnanski guy was one of the three players.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link
Keltner's probably most famous now for Bill James's Keltner HOF test.
http://www.cooperstowncred.com/statistics-glossary/keltner-list/
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 06:28 (four years ago) link
the satchel paige clue was kind of evil, sorry
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 07:11 (four years ago) link
i've never really been good with the early 60s.
same here
I know Ken Keltner bcz he made a defensive play said to have ended DiMag's 56-game hitting streak
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link
On August 20, 1938, as part of a publicity stunt by the Come to Cleveland Committee, Indians' catchers Frankie Pytlak and Hank Helf successfully caught baseballs dropped by Keltner from Cleveland's 708-foot-tall (216 m) Terminal Tower.[3] The 708-foot (216 m) drop broke the 555-foot, 30-year-old record set by Washington Senator catcher Gabby Street at the Washington Monument.[2]
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:28 (four years ago) link
I know that story but forgot KK was part of it
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link
the marlins have thrown six no-hitters
wtf
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link
This is probably already a well-known question, and the answer should be obvious because the wrong answer is too obvious: who was the first major leaguer to hit 66 home runs?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
you mean the first to hit 66 home runs in a single season? so...there was sammy sosa in 1998 of course. but is it answer mark mcgwire (who hit 70 that year), if he reached 66 home runs first? or is the trick trick question that it was sammy sosa, if he hit 66th before mcgwire did? i don't remember
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
^posted from my computer while logrolling down stairs^
sosa held onto 66 for 45 minutes before mcgwire caught him
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 23:14 (four years ago) link
Yes. I'd completely forgotten that--Sosa had the lead for an hour. (Got that from the ESPN documentary.)
― clemenza, Friday, 19 June 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link
I'd estimate that the HR leaders this year will have less than 23 HRs for the season. Trivia: When is the last time that happened? (Hint: it was a tie)
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link
i think i'm wrong, but is it 1919? my reasoning is that 1920 is the year that babe ruth really broke out in a monstrous way (54 HR?) and the rest of baseball hadn't quite caught up yet. but maybe the year before that?
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:19 (four years ago) link
after that. to clarify, I mean in either league
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link
my revised guess is 1981!
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link
Yeah, the AL leaders only had 21 that year. Strike season, yada yada.
Armas OAK 22Evans BOS 22Grich CAL 22Murray BAL 22
Grich did it in the least appearances with only 325 AB
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:50 (four years ago) link
i ran across that one the other day, so i'll stay mum.
here are the answers to my silly question:
walter johnson, 1925, .433 in 107 PAsdon newcombe, 1955, .359 in 125 PAscatfish hunter, 1971, .350 in 109 PAs
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link
I should have had the middle one; first and third, no chance. (Thinking the third is an anomaly? I don't recall him ever being mentioned as a great hitter.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link
Minus his big season, .204 lifetime--still pretty decent for a pitcher.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link
i didn't realize don was such a good hitter! he put together some excellent seasons in 58 and 59 as well, hitting well above league average
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link
Somehow I did know he was really good. .268/.336/.361 for his career, hit .300 or better six times. Sent up to pinch-hit 88 times.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
Sent up to pinch-hit 88 times
damn, that's impressive. now i want to know the record for THAT, heh
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link
i saw a mention of jim abbott's no-hitter today and took a look at the arc of his career. i didn't realize quite how good he was at his peak (1991: 18-11 with 2.89 ERA and 5.5 fWAR, 243 IP, and very good in 1992 as well), but also how bad things got in the late 90s. his ERA was 7.48 in 1996 (he went 2-18 for the angels) over 142 IP. i checked, and yes - that is the highest ERA for a pitcher who has thrown 140+ innings in a season since integration
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 February 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link
and he was 28 during that season! he retired, took 1997 off to listen to ok computer, and then came back for 2 more seasons before retiring for good at age 31. what happened to him?
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 February 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link
there was no coming back again after Kid A
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link
jim abbott listened to treefingers for the first time and, honestly, he hated it. he didn't understand what was even going on and why it was taking so long. but on the third and fourth listen, something changed, and so he retired again
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link
The best he could was good enough
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link
Turned up on my FB feed (from MLB's FB page): the 15 African American pitchers to win 20 games. Here's the link if you want to check yourself (I glanced at the post before trying it myself): https://www.facebook.com/mlb/posts/pfbid02vFMJgGhradC5fUcMLfcen5cSSYQ7TrjdnT5tAwD3SK1C4tH6Kq7PefRAaN8Bi6w4l.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link
Stealing this from FB: of the 33 players with 3,000 hits, which five never had a 200-hit season?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link
Answer: Anson, Yaz, Murray, Winfield, Henderson.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:01 (one year ago) link
ted williams?
still seems crazy tho
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:04 (one year ago) link
oh shit ted didn't even get to 3000 hits; he sucked
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:05 (one year ago) link
Nice question, I only got two right (the first and fourth you listed).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link
Impressed that you got the first one, one I never would have gotten. I saw the answers concurrent with the question, so didn't get to try it. I think I might have gotten the last three with enough thought--last two for sure--but never would have guessed Yaz, who I would have just assumed got 200 hits in '67. Pretty sure I knew Williams wasn't a 3,000 hit guy because of the two Ws, walks and wars.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link
Who made the last out in Johnny Vander Meer's second no-hitter? (One or two of you may have seen my FB comment--don't answer.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 September 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link
(Needless to say, someone famous.)
BR Walk-off asking the real questionshttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_pxCAwXAAA-uUr?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_pxCAYXgAAseEK?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_pxCAyXYAACB3J?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_pxCAWXoAAtK8o?format=jpg&name=medium
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:45 (eleven months ago) link
I must have known this long ago and forgot: Randy Moffitt, first-round pick of the Giants in 1970 who went on to have a decent career splitting the closer job with Gary Lavelle for a few years (both played for the Jays, too), is Billy Jean King's brother. Still alive.
― clemenza, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:41 (eleven months ago) link
I can't vouch for the accuracy of this--lifted from FB--but: who was the only player to play alongside Vlad Guerrero Sr., Craig Biggio, and Dante Bichette?
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/veresda01.shtml
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 April 2024 04:43 (six months ago) link
Only one MLB player who started his career before baseball was integrated is still living: Tommy Brown, who was 16 when he debuted with the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1944 and is now 96.
Source: https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/Oldest_Living_Baseball_Players.php
― jaymc, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 04:30 (five months ago) link
Monthly pub trivia tonight. My teams always finishes second to the same team (we've beaten them once). Had a chance to win tonight if we'd gotten the final question right (they didn't either but still won). Category was "Unbrekaable Records": Joe DiMaggio's hit streak happened during which three months?
We guessed June/July/August; it was May/June/July. Great question.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 01:37 (three months ago) link
teams = team
Not a question. The Grid led me to look up Mike Bordick today. He finished his career with 1,500 hits, 500 walks, and 800 strikeouts.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 August 2024 12:08 (two months ago) link
Is there a general thread for posting odd or interesting stat-related stuff from the past?
Fluke of the calendar, but caught my attention:
MLB Hits Leaders - Past 10 Decades
2010-2019: Robinson Cano - 2,624 hits2000-2009: Ichiro Suzuki - 2,244 hits1990-1999: Wade Boggs - 1,999 hits1980-1989: Wade Boggs - 1,821 hits1970-1979: Pete Rose - 2,251 hits1960-1969: Pete Rose - 2,090 hits1950-1959: Willie Mays - 1,805 hits1940-1949: Stan Musial - 1,589 hits1930-1939: Paul Waner - 1,814 hits1920-1929: Rogers Hornsby - 2,043 hits
― clemenza, Monday, 19 August 2024 22:05 (two months ago) link
Jesus, that's obviously wrong...averaged 262 hits per season! Sorry, don't shoot the messenger.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 August 2024 22:06 (two months ago) link
Looking at the comments, apparently that's not the only error in there.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 August 2024 22:08 (two months ago) link
MLB.com features Sporacle along with Immaculate Grid...I rarely open it up, but this one's interesting (I got 19/25):
https://www.mlb.com/fans/trivia/name-that-baseball-player
― clemenza, Friday, 30 August 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link
I got 8. But that was also from having terrible luck with my guesses (which was most of them)
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 31 August 2024 02:12 (two months ago) link
I got 13. There’s a fun reference to Buster’s legal name in this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZS9fmkY184
― Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Saturday, 31 August 2024 11:19 (two months ago) link