Let's Bitch About Our Stupid, Annoying Baseball Team: the 2024 Toronto Blue Jays Thread

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sorry, that is not a one- or two-sentence explanation

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:19 (five months ago) link

i look at it as an nba thing. i hope those aren’t the kits. supposed to be about the city, i want to be selfish as a torontonian and not have any “canadas team” reference for once. but not the gd skyline, that’s insanely lazy

francisF, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:40 (five months ago) link

I have a Juan Soto Padres city connect shirsey and it is awesome, way more than this pic would indicate:

https://i.imgur.com/cNMQSbL.png

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:00 (five months ago) link

Somewhere in Ball Four, Bouton gets nostalgic for the simplicity of his old Yankees uniform, and writes something about feeling like a clown in whatever the Pilots wore (which I'm guessing was less garish than that Jays jersey above).

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:11 (five months ago) link

You can see them here:

https://www.toddradom.com/blog/the-1969-seattle-pilots-one-team-one-season-many-uniforms

The Mariners used them as part inspiration for their own (polarising) city connects; I personally like them and have a city connect hoodie, the blue rules tbh

https://www.mlb.com/mariners/fans/city-connect

I think most teams with city connect designs have a page like this explaining the details; personally still think the Padres have everyone else beaten with theirs: https://www.mlb.com/padres/fans/city-connect

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:17 (five months ago) link

i liked the mariners city connect enough that i was using the it on my custom team in the show for a while. eventually stopped using it when i thought one day "i look like the police" and couldn't unsee it

Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:59 (five months ago) link

Platinum Blonde looked a lot like the Police.

clemenza, Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:11 (five months ago) link

My feelings about the Jays aside, hate hearing that Manoah left in the 2nd tonight with some kind of injury.

Unrelated: Martin Maldonado's OPS+ right now is -23. I thought OPS+ was a percentage, and that a negative number was impossible. Anyway, not welcome on my all-catcher fantasy team.

clemenza, Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:46 (five months ago) link

I saw someone else with a negative as well, I can’t remember who but aldo didn’t realize it was possible

francisF, Thursday, 30 May 2024 06:13 (five months ago) link

I don't like either the jersey or the hat. The hat logo looks a lot like the "T" design they used around 2005? It didn't last long.

The Manoah news sounds bad. Why did they pitch him when they knew he was hurting after his last start?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 30 May 2024 07:42 (five months ago) link

This image, for Joe Carter's upcoming annual golf tournament in Oakville, made me laugh.

https://i.postimg.cc/Pxx9n60j/josh.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 31 May 2024 15:54 (five months ago) link

If anyone's going have a temper tantrum on the course and beat someone senseless with a golf club, it's John Donaldson.

clemenza, Friday, 31 May 2024 16:00 (five months ago) link

Is that Josh’s evil twin?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 31 May 2024 16:53 (five months ago) link

Or is Josh the evil one

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 31 May 2024 16:53 (five months ago) link

(Twin Peaks man-from-another-place voice) One and the same.

clemenza, Friday, 31 May 2024 16:57 (five months ago) link

I think OPS+ isn't actually measuring a guy's OPS to the average, it's measuring his OBP to the average, his SLG to the average, and combining them. So if his OBP is 10% above average and his SLG is 15%, his OPS would be 125. And if his OBP is more than 50% below average and his SLG is more than 50% below average, you get below zero.

The Yellow Kid, Friday, 31 May 2024 18:30 (five months ago) link

opened mlb the show today and i guess those are the real toronto city connects lol

Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 31 May 2024 19:26 (five months ago) link

I will be getting the backpack version Wednesday. That one doesn’t lol too bad tbh; but the connect Vlad bobblehead we were set to get Monday was a “no thank you” from me and the gf

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 31 May 2024 21:05 (five months ago) link

I like the City Connect "Night Mode" uniform!

Me: Can we get hyperized birdhead?

Mom: no, we have hyperize--, oh wait

What is a hyperized bird head? pic.twitter.com/npr7w0RPT1

— Sophie is a hyperized borealis (@snowphieee) May 30, 2024

felicity, Saturday, 1 June 2024 01:19 (five months ago) link

let's see if this can go 20 innings despite the man on second

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 June 2024 02:22 (five months ago) link

I kind of gave up on my Cy Young bet after Berrios had that one miserable game, but geez--how much do Cy Young voters get into the weeds and start looking at game logs? Take away that one start--8 earned runs in 3.2 IP--and Berrios has 11 starts ranging from 5 to 7 innings; one of 3 earned runs, five of 2 earned runs, two of 1 earned run, two of no earned runs. I think Shulman said that, including tonight, his ERA would be 1.94 otherwise.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 02:35 (five months ago) link

Three with no earned runs, that should read.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 02:37 (five months ago) link

what an ending

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 June 2024 04:37 (five months ago) link

Took a look at Scooby-Doo's game logs out of Detroit--never less than 5 innings, 4 runs a couple of times, his other nine starts 0, 1, or 2. Translates to an ERA almost a full run less than Berrios. I don't know who else is in the mix, but I need for some team to step up and shellac him.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 15:59 (five months ago) link

Berrios isn't even in bRef's Top 10 for WAR. Lugo's the guy to beat right now.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:06 (five months ago) link

Lugo?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:13 (five months ago) link

Lugo on bRef, Skubal on Fangraphs (where Kikuchi is way ahead of Berrios...I guess that one start really sunk him for his seasonal stats).

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:16 (five months ago) link

Took a look at Scooby-Doo's game logs out of Detroit--never less than 5 innings, 4 runs a couple of times, his other nine starts 0, 1, or 2. Translates to an ERA almost a full run less than Berrios. I don't know who else is in the mix, but I need for some team to step up and shellac him.


TANNER HOUCK

My understanding with Skubal is that he doesn’t give up a lot of home runs and also he’s anathema to lefties which rules out a shelling from a lot of the better hitters in the league a lot of the the time

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:39 (five months ago) link

He's second on the bRef list. There's a whole bunch guys in the mix--because of that one game, Berrios isn't one of them.

1. Lugo • KCR 3.3
2. Houck • BOS 3.0
3. Anderson • LAA 2.7
4. Skubal • DET 2.6
5. Fedde • CHW 2.5
6. Gil • NYY 2.3
7. Blanco • HOU 2.2
8. Crochet • CHW 2.0
9. Crawford • BOS 1.9
10. Clase • CLE 1.8

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:52 (five months ago) link

could never in a million years have guessed that list

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 2 June 2024 00:44 (five months ago) link

Clase making the top 10 with only 29 IP is something... Crawford at #9 is at 68+.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 2 June 2024 01:07 (five months ago) link

Vlad's playing third today, first time since 2019--inneresting!

clemenza, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:29 (five months ago) link

"IKF," as has been much commented on, has been one of the team's bright spots this year.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:54 (five months ago) link

This seems to be more cleaning up a mess from last week than anything else:

https://www.mlb.com/news/ross-atkins-vladimir-guerrero-jr-bo-bichette-trade-talks

clemenza, Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:15 (five months ago) link

My first thought earlier was that Vlad was at third to showcase some defensive flexibility for interested parties.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:50 (five months ago) link

so the reason pirates manager derek shelton brought in a righty to face vogelbach -- a man with a career .128/.246/.214 line against lefties -- with two on in the fifth today was that available left-hander jose hernandez 'hadn't pitched in nine days'

well, now it's ten days. might as well cut him; he obviously can't be used now

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 June 2024 23:51 (five months ago) link

Actual quote from Ball Four, pg. 167:

We'll know better after this next series. The Baltimore Orioles are in town. Which reminds me of a cartoon I once saw. It showed a little boy forlornly carrying a glove and a bat over his shoulder. "How'd you do, son?" his father asks. "I had a no-hitter going until the big kids got out of school," the kid says.

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 00:41 (five months ago) link

Trevor Richards starting tonight. What a schizophrenic pitching line:

28.1 IP, 12 hits, 26 K, but...13 BB, 4 HR. ERA = 3.18; FIP = 4.51.

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 21:48 (five months ago) link

In other words: H/9, 3.8; FIP, 4.5. That's gotta be extremely rare...

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 21:50 (five months ago) link

That’s a very high walk rate

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 22:11 (five months ago) link

I am very proud of myself.
I was at the game, and bottom of the 9th, winning run on second, I point out to my friend “they’re playing him kind of shallow” and sure enough he hits it just hard enough over the OF’s head to win the game

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 June 2024 03:26 (five months ago) link

I also got a sweet backpack out of the deal. Not crazy about these jerseys but I like the backpacks. They’re honestly pretty good quality.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 June 2024 03:27 (five months ago) link

I was also there with an old friend instead of my gf because I think our relationship is over and im super bummed. Anyways I’ll stop making this thread my personal blog

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 June 2024 03:29 (five months ago) link

Ok one more thing. I bought a custom (vintage style) Barfield jersey and regret nothing. I deserve it!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 June 2024 03:30 (five months ago) link

i was sort of half paying attention, but was everyone kind of wearing high socks or is that just the cut of the pants?

j.q higgins, Thursday, 6 June 2024 10:28 (five months ago) link

The socks are bright red and hard to miss, but only Bo and Springer were rocking them iirc

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 June 2024 12:58 (five months ago) link

I really hope Biggio finds his way somewhere else. I think he's gotten the shaft a bit the past few years, put into a situation where it was extremely difficult to establish any consistency.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2024 00:35 (five months ago) link

(He was DFA'ed today.)

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2024 00:35 (five months ago) link

oh!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 June 2024 01:20 (five months ago) link

Manoah's out for the season. Who knows how far back this goes--would explain a lot, for sure.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2024 02:51 (five months ago) link


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