Let's Bitch About Our Stupid, Annoying Baseball Team: the 2024 Toronto Blue Jays Thread

This would be very silly

It's not all that crazy -- I'm talking about a trade in general, not that one specifically. This year's team doesn't have the talent for a deep playoff run (on paper). Bichette isn't signed to an extension and there's been no serious attempt to sign him long term. The problem is that they'd be selling low if he was traded now. But is next year's team going to make some kind of leap with the players we have now? Unless they add 2-3 impact players via trade or free agency, I don't see it. Then it's better to stock the farm system and build for the future.

there's been no serious attempt to sign him long term

i've heard they've been trying (of course maybe that's just sportsnet telling me that).

i stay well away from speculation on what the FO is doing

can’t trade Bo when his struggling this much. he was huge last 2 seasons.

is there no value in watching an almost-competitive team this year and hope for the best? bc i’d be super bummed to close the window already for prospects where one will halfway work out

they’re 4.5 back of wildcard 3, with KC, Minny, and BOS ahead of us with about 60?% of the season to go and youse have lost all hope? Dr. Frankl has taught me that meaning lies in the redemption arc

The optimum time to trade someone is tricky, obviously--it's exactly when they're playing well enough that you don't want to. I tentatively threw out the idea of trading Kirk at the 2022 AS break, when he was tearing things up:

Sounds crazy, I know, but: a friend and I were talking about the logic of trading Kirk. Three catchers are a nice luxury, but they need a starter. You don't trade Moreno, Jansen's trade value is probably minimal, and Kirk's is at a peak...I'd hate to give up Kirk, believe me, but I think he could be part of a deal that lands a solid third or fourth starter.

― clemenza, Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9:56 AM

But the outcry if you'd traded him then would have been deafening.

Moreno: will halfway work out for AZ. slap hitter but no one was happy to let home go. now we have Varsh. he may never hit for average but i love that guy. defence is important but the average joe can’t really appreciate it.

but really i just wanna watch what we have. i’ve said here recently: pitching (check), defense (best in the biz - check), offense gets hot at the right time, and that’s a very competitive playoff team. the road there is tough but the texas teams are laying an egg and i’m not overly concerned about the teams ahead of us (re: my last post).

You're a real fan, Francis; more power to you. I'm not anymore. I'm a complainer, a bandwagon-hopper, a (as Ringo would say) a well-known drag.

Oops--George, not Ringo.

i've always been dyed-in-the-wool blue, but sure I'll complain. I mean, the Leafs. I hopped on the Raptorwagon real fast in 2018! However you want to handle this team right now is legitimate, including being a denialist like me! ┬┴┬┴┤ʕ•ᴥ├┬┴┬┴

If Toronto had swept this series and moved ahead of Boston, I probably would have--in the face of all the pragmatism I've been advocating lately--felt that old "Well, maybe..." twinge. But surely this closes the door on 2024.

Springer for 2.5 more years (~$60MM) is feeling worse than I really imagined it would be. it's good for Canada (and surely Bad For Baseball) to sign such a big contract, but it's not like i had high hopes for the backend of this to begin with.

This has been a rough decline already.

First of many headline permutations:

https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/mitchell-orelvis-is-in-the-building-but-for-how-long-1.2137925

Or maybe not!

https://www.mlb.com/news/orelvis-martinez-suspended-for-80-games

A fertility drug? I remember some movie where a character used "Little Elvis" as a nickname for--I've got like ten jokes here trying to sort themselves out.

on the bright side, we may have been spared 80 days of watching him punt balls, hit 200 and strike out every 3rd at bat.

MLB.com: "Vlad Jr.'s Monster HR merely a fleeting moment for reeling Blue Jays."

Monster, fleeting, reeling--yes, yes, and yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V3oc1uVk7g