I'm pretty sure neither of the main WARs (bb-ref and fangraphs) factor in BABIP to their WAR for hitters (fangraphs kinda does for pitchers, in that their WAR is based on walks, hits, and homers, while bb-ref's is based on runs allowed)
― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link
Thanks, KM. I have to memorize that group--great Immaculate Grid fodder. (I've used Hamlin and Walton but not the other three.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:10 (three months ago) link
Fidrych definitely a special case too--he actually pitched really well in '77 in about a third of a season (6-4, 2.89, FIP of 2.50, 2.4 WAR).
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:14 (three months ago) link
well, I can thank AI for making me think of Pat Listach for likely the final time in my life
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:18 (three months ago) link
Jerome Walton had that 30 game hit streak in 1989, which probably sealed the deal for him as ROY. That plus the Cubs winning the division title. But in retrospect he was definitely not a player who was built to last.
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link
he only finished third in ROY but francouer is always my go to for this kinda cliff drop & if you look at his career vs carroll right now...
francouer 05 - 127 wRC+ / .372 wOBA / 3.0 fWARfrancouer 06 - 84 wRC+ / .313 wOBA / 0.7 fWAR
carroll 23 - 133 wRC+ / .370 wOBA / 5.4 fWARcarroll 24 - 78 wRC+ / .277 wOBA / 2.4 fWAR (projected)
pretty similar stats except carroll's drop is even more precipitous, and the WAR projection is being buoyed by projections that could potentially be way too rosy
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:40 (three months ago) link
it's obv not the same bcuz of the in between year but...
julio rodriguez 22 - 146 wRC+ / .366 wOBA / 5.7 fWARjulio rodriguez 23 - 126 wRC+ / .347 w0BA / 5.6 fWARjulio rodriguez 24 - 82 wRC+ / .277 wOBA / 2.9 fWAR (projected)
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:43 (three months ago) link
There's definitely a history of ROY winners whose best season was their first, even if they didn't fall off a cliff. With Carroll I gotta believe it's some kind of lingering injury, last season wasn't exactly fluky or a shallow counting stats kinda year. It was a five tool performance.
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:53 (three months ago) link
xp obviously not ideal, but putting up 2.9 fWAR while hitting for shit is impressive in its own right
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:43 (three months ago) link
that's a pretty optimistic projection given how many ABs he's already had. he hasn't been particuarly good on the basepaths either (small sample size though lol). rooting for him though.
Francouer was actually my first thought too! but I looked it up and it wasn't too dramatic. he's a weird case though IIRC it wasn't even his "rookie season" it was like his first 150 ABs that were out of this world after which he just became...kind of okay
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:48 (three months ago) link
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 20:55 (three months ago) link
Btw Julio was really bad first half of last season, so bad that there was talk of sending him to Tacoma (triple A) and then he exploded in the second half and his numbers looked better as they always do. Don’t rule that out this year either.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 21:00 (three months ago) link
J.D. Martinez (ankle, Amazon purchase) is back in the Mets' lineup tonight. Adidas overnighted him three emergency pairs of cleats to hold him over until the larger shipment of 30 or so pairs arrives. (A pair of cleats typically lasts him only around three games.)— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) July 3, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 21:15 (three months ago) link
maybe adidas is also using fanatics as its manufacturer?
heyooo
― 龜, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 22:09 (three months ago) link
This rules, all relievers should do this
https://t.co/35va43qWAt pic.twitter.com/8UVJSYD4H5— SNY (@SNYtv) July 4, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:54 (three months ago) link
Lol the Nats are so proud of their bullpen cart. Nobody uses it but when a reliever comes in they open up the little door and the cart zooms out and does two laps around the field anyway, just to keep it loose I guess
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 July 2024 14:57 (three months ago) link
I think that's Bill Caudill on the Mariners program, bottom right, one of the bullpen saviors the Jays tried before they struck gold with Henke.
― clemenza, Thursday, 4 July 2024 15:48 (three months ago) link
It’s sort of dumb that dudes like Heath Bell would sprint to the mound, yeah? Why would you want to elevate your heart rate etc right before you start pitching?
― brimstead, Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:02 (three months ago) link
JT Realmuto agrees with youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjppLBbyczo
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link
It’s sort of dumb that dudes like Heath Bell would sprint to the mound, yeah? Why would you want to elevate your heart rate etc right before you start pitching?― brimstead, Thursday, July 4, 2024 9:02 AM (one hour ago)
― brimstead, Thursday, July 4, 2024 9:02 AM (one hour ago)
Have never been a pitcher, but something about recruiting lactate & catecholamines (sp?) into fast twitch muscle fibers in order to boost muscle performance.
src: was a coached by sports physiologist/professor at top university in my country
― Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 4 July 2024 17:48 (three months ago) link
i just went to a npb game where there was a bullpen car (used multiple times)
― 龜, Friday, 5 July 2024 02:27 (two months ago) link
lmao mlb, this is such a huge cultural difference for mehttps://www.masslive.com/redsox/2024/07/red-sox-jarren-duran-on-mlb-warning-over-shirt-a-fine-id-be-happy-to-pay.html
MIAMI — On a column next to Jarren Duran’s locker in the Red Sox’ clubhouse at Fenway Park, a two-page letter from Major League Baseball is posted for everyone to see.The letter, addressed directly to Duran, is from Michael Hill, the league’s senior vice president of on-field operations. It’s an official warning that Duran violated policies by wearing a custom-made undershirt that says “F--- ‘Em’ in a postgame interview with NESN’s Jahmai Webster after Duran hit a walk-off single to beat the Blue Jays in a comeback win June 24. One page of the letter is Hill’s warning that Duran shouldn’t be seen on TV wearing a shirt with expletives on it. The other is the evidence — screenshots of Duran and Webster on the field with Duran donning the shirt.Duran understands that he broke baseball’s rules. But considering what the slogan means to Duran — and everything he has been through in both his major league career and life — the letter isn’t going to change much.“I’m not surprised because obviously, it’s bad words and bad language,” he said Thursday before playing the Marlins. “It’s understandable. I’m glad they didn’t fine me. They just gave me a warning. If I ever hit a walk-off again, I’ll just take everything off so I don’t get in trouble.“But that would be a fine I’d be happy to pay,” he added. “I wouldn’t have a problem paying that fine because it’s just me wearing something that means a lot to me.”
When the Celtics visited Fenway Park to celebrate their NBA championship early last week, Joe Mazzulla liked Duran’s shirt so much that the outfielder gifted him one.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 15:32 (two months ago) link
Just talking with friends about something related last night, though the opposite of what you're saying: how, post-Trump, "fuck" is all over CNN now, even early in the evening. Bill Maher uses it liberally and they leave it in. I swear like a truck driver, but, irrational though it may be, I don't like hearing it on a news network. I guess that's the teacher in me.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 July 2024 15:40 (two months ago) link
it's due to the FCC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words
― 龜, Friday, 5 July 2024 15:41 (two months ago) link
I'll probably get grief from someone for "swears like a truck driver." My dad drove both milk and bread trucks at various points. Just an expression.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 July 2024 15:42 (two months ago) link
I swear like a truck driver
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:55 (two months ago) link
I do! Especially behind the wheel, but pretty much all day long. Mostly to myself, and mindful of who's listening.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 July 2024 18:02 (two months ago) link
Anyway I understand a blanket prohibition but I guess curious about the blanket policy even if the word is partially redacted as it is here. Someone pointed out during the Jays series in Toronto that Sportsnet (?)had a closeup of Duran at the plate and they quickly cut away when they realised his wrist wraps(https://www.instagram.com/p/C4Op7q9OfpB/) were in full view lol
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 5 July 2024 18:06 (two months ago) link
intrigued by perry's ice cream
― 龜, Friday, 5 July 2024 23:03 (two months ago) link
Another solid start by Skenes. He's obviously a cinch for the ASG, right?
― clemenza, Saturday, 6 July 2024 01:21 (two months ago) link
i’m happy duran is doing well and playing well, but honestly needing to wear stuff emblazoned with ‘fuck ‘em’ because ‘it means so much to’ him is kinda pathetic
― mookieproof, Saturday, 6 July 2024 02:08 (two months ago) link
you read the thing about this being his personal mantra against the times he was suicidal right
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 6 July 2024 05:52 (two months ago) link
12 straight hits!
https://www.mlb.com/news/jose-miranda-consecutive-at-bats-hit-streak
― clemenza, Saturday, 6 July 2024 20:59 (two months ago) link
Calling all math majors: please calculate the probability of a .300 hitter (where he was when the streak started) getting 12 consecutive hits.
― clemenza, Saturday, 6 July 2024 21:40 (two months ago) link
1 in 1,881,676
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 6 July 2024 21:52 (two months ago) link
INCREDIBLE
what did Joe Ryan just do pic.twitter.com/8qaFMA9V4s— Addison (@YankeeWRLD) July 9, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 10:34 (two months ago) link
gave himself urethral cancer?
― 龜, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 11:15 (two months ago) link
He shouldn’t be at risk if there’s no powder to dick contact right, like if he’s just dusting his upper thighs? Assume that’s where baseball uniforms chafe most in heat
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 11:20 (two months ago) link
i think he's de-moisting skin-to-skin zones in the groin area. you're right as long as it's only powder-to-skin contact should be OK.
― 龜, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 11:42 (two months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/dg5AALu.jpeg
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 03:06 (two months ago) link
After 11 starts, Skenes is fourth among NL pitchers with 3.1 bWAR (Greene leads with 3.5).
― clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:08 (two months ago) link
Skenes is going to start the All-Star game, only the fifth rookie to ever do so -- Nomo, Valenzuela, Fidrych, and Dave Stenhouse. I had to look Stenhouse up, he's not a hidden gem, had a solid first half in his rookie year of 1962 but nothing spectacular, and was out of the majors after 1964.
― omar little, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:08 (two months ago) link
I suspect Skenes is going to wind up being the best draft pick in our fantasy league in terms of value relative to where he was chosen.
― omar little, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:09 (two months ago) link
so much pulled pork this year for pitchers, kind of worried already for Skenes
― Michael F Gill, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:10 (two months ago) link
Nomo, Valenzuela, Fidrych
Sounds about right: the media coverage of him this summer and the fan interest are very comparable to what those three experienced.
― clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:14 (two months ago) link
i read all the stuff about how skenes didn't really start pitching until college and i remember what the tommy john doctors said about the UCL developing until age 24 so i'm hoping that skenes will be alright for awhile since his UCL doesn't have as much wear on it as your average rookie arm does
also hope that he's a genetic freak
― 龜, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
He seems much more likely to last being built the way he is, for example what happened with Spencer Strider seemed like an absolute inevitability.
― omar little, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:22 (two months ago) link
also i have it on good authority he never pitched his team to the championship game in summer koshien, so he’s got that going for him too
― 龜, Friday, 12 July 2024 17:32 (two months ago) link
2nd pick in the last last round! hats off to that mad flier of a pick.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:45 (two months ago) link
oof i was gonna pick him next (i swear it, i do)
― francisF, Friday, 12 July 2024 23:59 (two months ago) link