thread for players who are having surprisingly bad seasons

Dustin Pedroia
Robinson Cano
Khalil Greene has been shockingly bad.
Derek Jeter, by his standards.
Michael Bourn has been brutal on offense.

pedroia isnt doing that bad...

victor martinez

brad hawpe

vlad guerrero
ROBBIE CANO

Pedroia isn't doing THAT bad, but you would never know he has a sub-.700 OPS from the way people talk about him.

How many losses will he have by mid-June?

http://thenastyboys.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/barry_zito.jpg

Oops, "surprisingly bad."

pedroia isnt doing that bad...

-- J0rdan S., Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

he's been alright but even as a red sox fan i think him winning the 2B all-star vote is bullshit

roughly as bullshit as cap'n clutch winning the SS vote

Nah it's worse. There are really no good shortstop candidates in the AL (if Michael Young is your savior you are in trouble) whereas just about every regular 2B is better than Pedroia this year. Even just comparing them against one another Jeter is having a better year.

Ryan Howard

^^^tied for 5th in NL HRs^^^

just saying...

OPS is under .800 though! I mean I don't see how you can possibly define a season where dude is hitting .200/.300./460 w/ almost a 100 strikeouts in 70 games as not bad no matter how many homers he's hit! Those are seriously Dave Kingman-esque stats.

He definitely started slow, but he still might end up with 50 HR. He's heating up like crazy.

felix pie?

swisher?

Howard always gets better as the year goes on. His start is slow by his usual standards, but I'd be surprised if he doesn't have a near-.900 OPS by year's end.

Ichiro? (sub-.300 average, nothing but singles)
Thome? (three true outcomes, .219 average)

Swisher (.218/.336/.371), yeah.

Curtis Granderson (.246/.304/.446), definitely.

Ichiro (.293/.357/.386).

Ian Snell, maybe.

Obviously injuries have sapped V. Martinez but it's sort of amazing that he has not hit at least one fluke HR. And wow: .278/.332/.333.

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Ichiro's line looks bad, but his SB # and ratio is insane (29/31!!!)

Brett Meyers is another terrible one. (him + swisher + k-no = all drafted by me! fanatsy QQ)

Alfonso Soriano, for getting hurt so much.

carlos pena, though i can't say the dude set many precedents for having great years beyond last season (looks like an outlier maybe)

roy oswalt is having a pretty lousy year

justin verlander

He has been fine since May, but that April was not just surprisingly bad but awful. Leyland leaving him to rot for a six-run eighth against the White Sox didn't help.

vlad but he's warming up a bit now i think

Ken Griffey Jr. looks to be playing his age and seems kind of bored. He might heat up, but I have a feeling he is going to end up hitting a bit over .250 with about 20 home runs unless one of his legs goes out on him.

The thing is I just don't see where the Reds could ship him off that he would actually go. The Mariners are completely in the tank, they won't call. They had trades setup with the Yankees and White Sox in past seasons and Griffey kept nixing the trade.

paul konerko
2008: .215/.322/.368
Career: .278/.351/.490

JJ Hardy
2007: 26 HR
2008: 4 HR

Andruw:
2008 .165/.273/.271
Career .261/.340/.492

PRONK:
2008 OPS: .677
Career OPS: .932

andruw and griffey aren't "surprising"...

bad though yes

yeah, hafner. wow.

remind me why andruw's 2008 isn't surprisingly bad again?

because his 2007 was surprisingly bad?

Not close to this bad.

Larry Jones (down to .402)

wrong thread?

Konerko had some ugly numbers in 2007 too.

http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2008/06/11/alg_dontrelle.jpg

Hah and Howard hits another homer. Stats still look uggers to me right now, but I agree that he'll probably end up looking good by the end of the year (as will Ichiro most likely.)

AND ANOTHER haha.

Is the fact that Bartolo "Shrek" Colon is not having a good year surprising?

hmm.... 4-1, 3.41 ERA, 1.31 WHIP (prior to today) is bad?

http://cache.boston.com/images/bostondirtdogs//Headline_Archives/BC_9.1fj.gif

Is there something in the Cali water that causes baseball fans to make grand sweeping generalizations based on small stat samples? Some M. Night Shyamalan (sp) happening shit?

yeah - i found his goodness surprising!

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Yellow is not his color.

Is there something in the Cali water that causes baseball fans to make grand sweeping generalizations based on small stat samples? Some M. Night Shyamalan (sp) happening shit?

-- David R., Monday, June 16, 2008 6:00 PM (5 minutes ago)

is there something in the wherever you're from water that prevents you from comprehending thread titles?

wait are you yipping at me or alex? cuz i got his back regardless doggie.

I didn't even look at his stats! He's obv. pitching surprisingly WELL so forget I said anything.

wow, so ryan howard two HR and a 3B.

I'm just yipping -- my bad. Need a nap or ten. Back to the DL for me.

ya - colon not so good today. ilxjinx.

Bedard.

bedard: true!

i knew he wasn't going to save the m's, but his utter mediocrity thus far is pretty astounding.

I mean it's like last year, he was striking out EVERYONE. This year, he's been a total crapshoot. Very odd, dare I say a little suspicious.

Why suspicious?

Jeter EqA: .250

Howard's going to destroy his strikeout record. 101 in 73 games!

Todd Helton

Granderson's back on track.

Oh -- Edgar Renteria is "on pace" to have 10 doubles by the end of the year. He's also on pace to botch 50 grounders he "makes most nights."

What is surprising about Todd Helton? Dude's OLD!

Plus his power's been dropping for the last four years.

Bronson Arroyo
Freddy Sanchez

Jeff Francoeur (only surprising if you are Joe Sheehan, I guess)

Ryan Howard's swing is still like swiss cheese. 114 strikeouts in 83 games. Wow.

thats 'only' 13 in his last 10 games, cut the kid some slack

Daaaaamn!
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K's or not, he's still dropping bombs left and right.

i was going add richie sexson and his release today, but his performance hasn't benn THAT surprising, has it?