2004 ILB Fantasy Baseball League Thread #1

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― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i realize i didn't include Ks as a detrimental offensive stat... what do y'all think?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

aw, screw it. let 'em whiff!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i would support k's as a minus, but am not going to raise a stink about it.

― j.q. higgins, Friday, 2 April 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

But there is one female in the league! She's a cool Chicagoan.

are you calling me a woman, punk?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe... ;-P

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

well..... at least i'm a cool woman.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

now that i think about it, maybe your roommate is familiar with the other chicagoan (from a mid-late 90s mailing list).

LEAGUE UPDATE:
• You have elected to run retroactive stats for your league. As a result, all previously accumulated stats will be cleared and rerun from opening day. Please make sure all of your managers have their desired retroactive stat lineup set by 11:59pm PT on Sunday, Apr 4.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

How come we're doing retroactive stats? It's like having a wayback machine to see who did well in the Yankees-Devil Rays games.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

does that mean i could bench mussina to lose his bloated ERA?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool it Aaron W-brenner!

Unless you forfeit your #1 draft pick, you're not allowed to complain.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

my dog knows this other person?!?!??!?!? weird.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 April 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, according to friendster pictures, that may not be too far off.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 2 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

linus has a very active social life.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 April 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

So what is the deal w/ the retro stats? Should EVERYONE be forced to put in the players they had play those two games, to be fair? Or is this assumed?

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 2 April 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i.e. Yanc3y must play the Moose!

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 2 April 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i NEVER would've started him against the d-rays! they're giant killers!

i'll stay out of this decision, but it seems that if a team were to start a player because they played well in those first two games the opposite should also be true.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 2 April 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Like Tino? But he was due after being so sucky with the Cardinals!

Seriously, it's a long season. Gaudy numbers from those 2 games will fade in a couple weeks.

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 2 April 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

bnw otm, we're arguing about like 1% of the final totals.

― Vitamin Leee (Leee), Friday, 2 April 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

We're arguing?

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

you best be gettin' outta my face, popshots.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 3 April 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

DON'T GO THERE MORAN

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 3 April 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Are we talking about rounders, chaps?

― Dorien Thomas (Dorien Thomas), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, don't be bringing that namby pansy brit speak when we are about to get ruff.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 3 April 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

B!ll S!mmons (not) to thread!

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 3 April 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the retroactivity was announced prior to the draft. sorry guys.

if the 2 games played would have significantly changed your drafting strategy (well up to round 16 at least), i apologize again.

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 3 April 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

But I only drafted John Burkett b/c I thought we were going retroactive to 1993 :(

― bnw (bnw), Sunday, 4 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

<table border="1">
<cellpadding=0>
<tr><th>Boston<th>IP<th>H<th>R<th>ER<th>BB<th>SO<th>HR<th>PC-ST<th>ERA</tr>
<tr><td>Mike Timlin <td>0.2 <td>3 <td>3 <td>3 <td>2 <td>1 <td>0 <td>22-10 <td>40.50</tr></table>

yeah baby!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

crap, looks like it won't take a table eh?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, unfortunately the site mod disabled table and pre tags.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 5 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

poop, the crux of it was that mike timlin went 2/3 of an inning, and came out with a whip of 7.46 and an era of 40.50.

onward and upward.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 April 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, yes. it would appear that mike timlin's evil twin has reared his ugly head. so hard to tell w/o the evil twin facial hair, but o's fans are quite familiar w/ his performance.

― j.q. higgins, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The Red Sox filed for a Mulligan following the game. I think everyone for the Bostoneers was sleeping (or, in Damon's case, hibernating).

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 April 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Damon = Unfrozen Caveman Centerfielder

― earlnash, Monday, 5 April 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

What is this "flyball" you speak of? And this round spherical object hurtling towards me, am I supposed to track this down and "catch" it with this animal skin you tell me to wear? I am sorry, but I have been frozen for over 2 million years, and your concept of "defense" and "outfielder communication" confounds me.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 April 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

dude: seriously.

actually, i think w/ the locks and the burly scruff, damon looks more like a freshly thawed caveman centerfielder.

somewhat related questions: who's put on more weight a) sir sidney ponson or b) david ortiz?

― j.q. higgins, Monday, 5 April 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

C) Don Zimmer.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 April 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

baseball's answer to lawrence tierney?

― j.q. higgins, Monday, 5 April 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bostondirtdogs.com/2003/images/JD_10.6.jpg

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 5 April 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey higgins, with regard to your waiver priority query... because of the draft order, those drafting last are given higher priority in claiming players from the waiver wire. so if someone drops a player and more than one manager tries to pick him up, the manager with the higher waiver priority gets first dibs.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 5 April 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i figured that much, just curious what accounts for the shift in priority. i'm pretty sure i drafted last.

i'm really just bitter you snagged rod beck, but i guess i should have just given him a higher priority. i mean, it's really an issue of my own ignorance of the waiver system, i just don't want to make the same mistake twice...n'ahmean?

― j.q higgins, Monday, 5 April 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I know... I had to pick up Koch, Nen and Beck because my pitching needs some big help and I needed to take some risks and get some trade bait if these guys start racking up some big time #s.

If this works out: Koch, Nen, Beck, Lidge and Gagne could be the best relieving pitching I've ever had in Fantasy Leagues, and I got them all in a 19 manager league!

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 5 April 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit. Corey Patterson just absolutely destroyed the second pitch of the season. I guess he's healthy.

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Holds Me Now

The Tamil Tigers are looking for long relief. If somebody needs a mediocre starter make me an offer.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

shit, i'm without a tv for the next couple hours. wood is fun to watch. i hope the yankees make a play for jimenez...or at least SOME 2B.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Rich Harden pitch yesterday vs. the Giants and he did fine against the MLB players. It was those pesky Fresno AAA players that did him in. He looked sharp.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

baseball prospectus says he'll be the best starter on the A's staff by the end of 2005 EVEN IF they keep zito, mulder, and hudson. that's unbelievable praise.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

and w/ joe blanton coming up...that would just be unbelievable if they could retain all those guys. i'm sure they can't, though.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i figured that much, just curious what accounts for the shift in priority. i'm pretty sure i drafted last.

Also higgins - when you make a pick-up off the waiver wire, you automatically go to the bottom of the queue. So, yeah, you did have the number 1 waiver pick, but when you used it on Larkin you moved to last. As others use theirs, you will move up again (i.e. Starfighters used his today so now he is last and you are 18th).

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost RE: OAK vs. SF 4/3/04

Blanton relieved Harden and looked pretty good, although nothing special.

On the other hand, Brian Cooper (Fresno AAA) was perfect through 5, only giving up 1 hit (albeit a dying quail HR to damian miller) and one walk in the 6th. He finished with 6Ks. Had a couple 4/5 pitch innnings.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

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If me and MonkeyRobotFun mushed together, we'd be Voltron.

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Sunday, 2 May 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we be the Constructicons instead? I'm a fan of their Milwaukee Bucks color scheme.

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

hey begs, here's an article you might be interested in showing to your baseball-boycotting friend:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=neyer_rob&id=1792127

from infamous yankee-hater rob neyer, of all people.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

John that's a good article! But my friend is more talking about money and spending imbalance than competitive imbalance. He says, "I decided not to give any of my money to Major League Baseball until there's less imbalance. Plus, the Brewers pretty much suck."

We fought, briefly. My arraignment is Tuesday. Wish me luck!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 3 May 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

b-b-but what's the problem with spending imbalance if it doesn't lead to any significant competitive imbalance, i ask him???? oh well, at least the second reason is kind of a good excuse.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 3 May 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in first. I vow to stay the course.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Which lucky soul got Juan Uribe?

― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 3 May 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Whom should I start at Util: Adam Everett or Pedro Feliz?

Cos of that sexy Astros lineup, Everett gives me mad runs scored, which I sorely need (haven't even broken a hundred yet!).

But Feliz, who's finally gotten a semi-regular starting job, has better overall numbers with loads better power potential, although he'll score less given that the Giant's recent offensive explosion is probably a fluke.

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I vote for Little E. Of course, I'm a little biased being an Astros fan, but I'm just ecstatic about the offense this guy is giving us.

― boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Alou said Feliz will play "everyday" until Durham comes back (and maybe more after).

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm guessing Feliz is there for good. Alfonso is doing everything he can to play himself out of that lineup.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone awaken Vernon Wells or do you think he was one of the 87 players that the Fed knows was on the juice?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

ppl need to learn from barry, HGH is the way to go.

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a new song you're singing John!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't realize it was undetectable! cut me a break here.

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

bill mueller's performance in late inning pressure situations, brought to my attention by a red sox board:

2002: .552 OPS
2003: .668 OPS
2004: .295 OPS

leee, your boy is a CHOKER

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

he's actually my problem right now.

― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

but he's leeeeee's boyfriend

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahaa ha haa¡

― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Mueller gets a lot of leeeeeeeeeeeway.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll pass on the choker jokes and say that I loved the guy when he was grounding out to second for a .270 average.

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

milwaukee's starting lineup, check these given names: gary, lyle, junior, craig, wes, geoff, scott, and brady, with victor pitching. this is not a team, it's a cub scout troop! (i didn't even mention chad.)

anyway, overbay with the grandslam jack. thanks, waivers!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

2 throwing erros for mueller tonite - you have a very big heart mr leee.

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

oh did I forget
to talk shit about my rise
to number one spot?

my bad, please let me
make it up to all of you:
I AM IN FIRST PLACE

(this of course won't last,
by next week I'm #8,
still though: aw yeah boyeeeeeeee)

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

cool if you're in 8th next week that means i must be number 1 next week! or number 16, i'm not sure how it's gonna work.

do not pass me just to slow down
i have precision ottos!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Every year, there's some
shrinking violet that thinks
being Mr. Right Now

means the bough won't break
when the ground turns cold, and, man,
it's sad to see them fall.

(Note: this is what a .965 fielding percentage does to a man.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, so YOU'RE the guy with the fpct lower than mine. manny is goddamn killing me in that department. his .949 fpct isn't even the lowest on my team! but he's the lowest amongst my starters.

does anyone know why aubrey huff wants so desperately to get back to playing AAA ball? hmmmm? anyone? last year i though shawn green would be the nl mvp, this year i had huff as a dark horse candidate. i drafted both and have been burned two years in a row.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Now pitching for the Houston Astros, Chad "Jess" Harville

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Harville left the game with a hamstring problem last night. I don't know if they'll DL him or not.

― boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

berkman has been walked in his first three at bats.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Twice intentionally.

The guy is a walking fool this year.

― boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I just wanted to get the indie bermanisms started again.

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

How about this one: Lance Berkman-Turner Overdrive.

Berman hasn't been saying that one has he? I just made it up.

And I guess it's more classic than indie.

― boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex "Absolut" Cintron.

Oh wait, this one works two ways: Derrick "Harper" Lee. It combines the former Dallas Maverick point guard with the author the To Kill a Mockingbird

Although I always thought the Bermanisms that referred to somebody's name were lame. Ex: Tim "Eli" Wallach

― boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my new faves is Cards outfielder Colin "Cole" Porter.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

All I have to say is that whatever Leo Mazzone did to turn Mike Hampton to a decent starter last year has completely worn off. Hampton is pitching like every start is in Denver again.

I had a great offensive night freakin ruined a couple nights back by four errors. Remind me never to draft a middle infielder from Philadeldelphia next year as between them and Hampton, I am not going to win jack squat.

Jimmy Rollins .182
Placido Polanco 1 RBI -- hasn't missed a start all year.

― earlnash, Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Still sure you don't want Adam Everett???

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

this is fantastic¡ i have now had 3 of my relievers loose their role as the closer so far.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

At least now you're in line to get holds¡

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

not the way they're pitching¡

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Dyson,

wanna trade for BKoch? he'll get you some saves.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha - i'll stick with riske, thank you.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You mean, David Riske "Business"!

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Still sure you don't want Adam Everett???"

I'm going old skool and am taking a risk on Barry Larkin. He is playing quite well so far this year (fingers crossed) and I hope Barry can make it through his final season without having a serious injury, which has plagued the last few years of his career.

I'm gonna keep Rollins around for a while, he has been a decent ss for a few years and I hope this is just a slow start.

I just don't want to unload Hawkins, he will be the closer soon enough.

― earlnash, Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Rollins' career numbers for April:
.267/.333/.370/.703

2004:
.182/.247/.261/.509

― Leeegax! (Leee), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

damn after today
I'll be surprised if my team
is still in the league!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I guess it's about time to dump Mondesi, considering he just left the Pirate indefinitely to deal with that law suit.

― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Dyson's team (on a Monday mind you) batted .400 with 5 HRs, and 8 Runs/RBIs. Nice work.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet he has Gonzo.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it about time to start "2004 ILB Fantasy Baseball League Thread #2"? Can anybody do that or is that a right reserved for the commissioner/moderator?

[MODERATOR: Thread continues here]

― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

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