“I am now ready to admit that it was actually a very good burn" : 2018 Washington Nationals

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starting this thread solely for the opportunity to share this news story from last month

na (NA), Monday, 19 March 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link

that is hilarious and also 100% correct.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 March 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

i mean he looks like seth rogen in the way that 20% of white guys look like seth rogen

na (NA), Monday, 19 March 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

throw in the beard and he's def more seth rogen than your average seth rogany white dude

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

@MLBPipeline
#Nats' Juan Soto to make 1st @MLB start at 19 years 208 days. Past 7 hitters to do it at a younger age:
2012: J. Profar, 19.195
2012: B. Harper, 19.195
1998: A. Beltre, 19.078
1996: A. Jones, 19.114
1994: A. Rodriguez, 18.346
1991: I. Rodriguez, 19.205
1989: K. Griffey Jr, 19.133

poor jurickson

mookieproof, Monday, 21 May 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

boom

mookieproof, Monday, 21 May 2018 23:56 (six years ago) link

Poor Juan, if Vladdy finally gets called up

francisF, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link

by end of September, even

francisF, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

4.5 games out of WC

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

good job mets

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

The Nats bullpen situation continues to get murkier. Reliever Kelvin Herrera, who allowed two runs and took the loss in Tuesday's nightcap against the Braves, exited with shoulder tightness and is scheduled for an MRI tomorrow. Washington is already without closer Sean Doolittle (foot) and recently let relievers Brandon Kintzler (trade) and Shawn Kelley (DFA, then trade).

i appreciate that the nats may have fucked themselves by getting rid of kelley for throwing his glove and kintzler for allegedly talking too much to reporters

“It’s pretty cut-and-dried. You guys all saw it. The act that he portrayed on the field last night was disrespectful to the name on the front of the jersey, the organization, specifically Davey Martinez,” Rizzo said. “And you’re either in or you’re in the way. And I thought he was in the way.”

this from the guy who kept jonathan papelbon for another year after he grabbed the team's best player by the neck

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 03:00 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Mt4jCPj.jpg
don't worry, i am here to shore up the bullpen

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 03:05 (six years ago) link

also the guy who has done a truly incredible job with his team's field managers

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link

wow their bullpen is garbage

na (NA), Monday, 13 August 2018 03:05 (six years ago) link

I mean they are missing their two main bullpen pieces but yeah.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 13 August 2018 03:08 (six years ago) link

I love so many players on this Nats team (Scherzer, Rendon, Soto, Doolittle, Turner) so it is always hard to cheer against them but this was hilarious.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 13 August 2018 03:09 (six years ago) link

i only paid attention to this cubs series but the bullpen ruined two amazing starts by hellickson and scherzer

na (NA), Monday, 13 August 2018 03:20 (six years ago) link

kinda rooting for them in the East bcz the other 2 contenders make me puke, but they might be nearly done

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link

Based on what has happened to the #Nationals this season, Dusty Baker should be the 2018 NL Manager of the Year.

— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) August 21, 2018

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

disarray, and i don't think it has anything to do with the failure to retain harper

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 May 2019 02:58 (five years ago) link

second worst record in the NL!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

hard to imagine how, for a team with trea turner, rendon, soto, eaton on the field and a rotation headlined by scherzer, strasburg, and corbin!

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link

it is baffling for sure

na (NA), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:54 (five years ago) link

i still expect them to play better than average the rest of the way, but with the games they've already lost, they're probably doomed to a lost season this year (especially with PHI/ATL/NYM to contend with)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

jay jaffe saying on fangraphs chat right now that he has a piece on the nationals coming soon, but he blames their issues on defense and bullpen construction (and ultimately mike rizzo)

na (NA), Thursday, 9 May 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link

philly's doing okay, but the braves and mets aren't exactly tearing it up either

i wasn't expecting the four-way NL east battle to be for .500

xp yeah apart from doolittle and barraclough their bullpen has been brutal

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 May 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link

Nationals and Gerardo Parra have agreed to a major league deal.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

i kinda feel bad for rizzo (not following their situation too closely - maybe he deserves it?). they built a team that should have been a dynasty, but they never got past the divisional series. the teams were filled with fun players and national superstars, and yet their fans suck (sorry nats fans) and the stadium was always half-empty even at their peak

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

despite the harper saga, i can't really blame them for being cheap -- they've certainly proven willing to pay for starting pitching.

but while i tend to think that managers are overrated, maybe that's not the place to scrimp -- they've been an absolute mess ever since they moved to DC (barring the dusty years!) even last year the 'industry' (according to ken rosenthal) thought martinez was in over his head

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 May 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link

and here's jaffe's article now: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/no-defense-for-underperforming-nationals/

na (NA), Thursday, 9 May 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

i kinda feel bad for rizzo (not following their situation too closely - maybe he deserves it?). they built a team that should have been a dynasty, but they never got past the divisional series. the teams were filled with fun players and national superstars, and yet their fans suck (sorry nats fans) and the stadium was always half-empty even at their peak

― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:17 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Rizzo made a bunch of clunkers, starting with management, Dusty Baker was already a dinosaur when he got hired and he's been better than Martinez and Williams. Beyond the obvious bullpen woes, there was always big holes in key positions for a team that wanted to contend: catching has been an absolute disaster, it still is. Since 2012, the player with the most PA in CF is Michael A. Taylor with a 76 wrc+ and LF has not been much better over the last few seasons prior to Juan Soto. More recently, letting Roark go was a big mistake in that it thinned both their rotation and bullpen. To trust Brian Dozier was going to be good again was a big stretch.

For each good young player or good trade there's been a glaring omission or a boner. Them winning divisions is a mix of having superhuman performances by some players and the NL East being just non-competitive. Harper was right to be mad when Rizzo didn't trade for Realmuto prior to the 2018 season.

Max Scherzer is my favorite player, Rendon ain't too far behind, so I kind of follow them quite a bunch.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link

Washington Nationals outfielder Adam Eaton believes he wouldn’t be where he is without the minor league system he calls a “very dog-eat-dog world.” The Arizona Diamondbacks selected Eaton in the 19th round of the 2010 MLB draft, and he’s spent about a third of his career in the minor leagues.

While he believes things can be improved and players should make a little more money so they’re “literally not eating crumbs,” he doesn’t want MLB to make minor league conditions more hospitable.

“If you do, complacency sets in,” Eaton says. “I think it’s difficult, yes, and it’s easy for me to say that because of where I am, but I wouldn’t be where I am without that … If I financially am supported down there and financially can make a living and not have to get to the big leagues, I think I’m a little more comfortable. I think that I might not work as hard because I know I’m getting a decent paycheck every two weeks, and may not push myself nearly as hard.”

I don’t disagree with [the notion] that they’re being exploited, but I think it’s for the betterment of everybody,” he adds. “I know it sounds crazy … I think there’s a middle ground … There’s ground to be made up, but I think it still should be rough.”

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/sports/article/21074129/minor-league-baseball-players-live-below-minimum-wage-to-chase-their-dreams

Andy K, Monday, 24 June 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link

as someone said on FB, future GOP congressman

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 June 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link

Jim Bunning Bootstrapper Award 2019

Andy K, Monday, 24 June 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link

second place

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 July 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Rodney has not recorded more than three outs in a game since Sept. 4 of last season. He got four outs just twice last year. This is a situation he’s almost never in.

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) July 20, 2019


The bases are loaded with nobody out in the ninth and the Nats are going with a five-man infield. Juan Soto is grabbing a new glove

Rodney has thrown 30 pitches already and still is in the game

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) July 20, 2019


Donaldson launches a walkoff hit to the wall. Nats lose 4-3 and yikes that ninth inning was uh, questionable.

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) July 20, 2019


Dave Martinez said he liked the matchups for Rodney in the ninth inning and he wanted to save Doolittle: “We’re playing on the road and Doolittle comes in the game for a save”

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) July 20, 2019

Andy K, Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:18 (five years ago) link

<3

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:30 (five years ago) link

Niiiice

Karl Malone, Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:44 (five years ago) link

rather see them win the East than the barves now that Murphy is gone

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 July 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link

Fernando Rodney is warming up to pitch the ninth. He appeared in both games of yesterday’s doubleheader

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) July 25, 2019



And Rodney gives up a leadoff homer to Ian Desmond to start the ninth. Tie game.

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) July 25, 2019

Andy K, Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link

doolittle also pitched in both games yesterday, but idk maybe go to him before the 42-year-old guy

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

analytics are getting outta hand... pic.twitter.com/MRUtosR4RD

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) August 17, 2019

Andy K, Saturday, 17 August 2019 01:49 (five years ago) link

Scherzer returns tonight

so i expect the Bucs to pull this one out

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

God, these guys have been scoring a lot of runs lately. Last nine games:

-- seven of them 7+ runs
-- five of them double figures
-- four of them 13+ runs
-- overall average, 10.0/runs per game

Still 32 runs behind the Dodgers for the season.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 August 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

playing the Pirates helped

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 August 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Not a banner day for Nationals manager Dave Martinez, who asked HP ump Tim Timmon to check with the 1B ump as to whether Culberson, who was bleeding profusely and had to be taken to a hospital, went around on the pitch, making it a strike. Then he left Rodney in the whole inning.

— David O'Brien (@DOBrienATL) September 15, 2019

Andy K, Sunday, 15 September 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link

trying hard to blow WC1

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 September 2019 11:39 (five years ago) link

The #Nationals have three pitchers with 5.5+ WAR this season. They're the 12th team in MLB history to have 3 pitchers do that pic.twitter.com/AgdwDuSnLE

— Baseball Reference (@baseball_ref) September 18, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link


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