2019 AL Cy Young

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There's been at least one tie in the past, Hernandez and Stargell in '79 (which would not be close to a tie today). Are writers actually allowed to split their #1? I think I might consider that if were a voter.

Poll Results

Option	Votes
Gerrit Cole	5
Justin Verlander	2
somebody else	1
Mike Minor	0

― clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 12:41 (six years ago)

I have Cole but then I’m a fip/fwar guy.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 30 September 2019 18:36 (six years ago)

i'd go with Cole too.

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 September 2019 18:46 (six years ago)

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IP, K/BB, WHIP, R/G, and Game Score to Verlander; ERA, ERA+, and FIP to Cole. bWAR Verlander, fWAR Cole--combined, slight edge to Cole. Baseball Prospectus tied, but Verlander if you carry it to a second decimal.

― clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 19:47 (six years ago)

I don't know who should win, but I think Verlander will; that took hold early, and Cole had to clearly overtake him. He may have indeed overtaken him, but I don't think clearly.

― clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 19:49 (six years ago)

gamescore and allWARs look like a wash. WHIP and K/BB is slightly in favour of Verlndr. Total Ks, ERA, ERA+ & FIP all tips things in favour of Cole.

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 September 2019 20:01 (six years ago)

that took hold early, and Cole had to clearly overtake him

one could just as easily say that finishing strong is more important. all the games count

― mookieproof, Monday, 30 September 2019 20:08 (six years ago)

I always try to look at thing through the prism of what I think will happen, not what should. I've always maintained strong finishes matter. But Verlander finished strong too, strong enough to mitigate whatever advantage Cole has there; Verlander was 11-2, 2.06 after the break, with a 9.8 K/BB ratio (and only 10 of his 36 HR).

For me, it is literally a tie. And that's how I'd vote if the rules allow for it.

― clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 21:34 (six years ago)

John Means for finishing with a winning record for the 2019 Orioles

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 30 September 2019 21:41 (six years ago)

def a consideration.

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 September 2019 21:43 (six years ago)

WHIP is cool but I don't know if I give it as much importance as FIP and K/BB and era+ and even RAA.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 30 September 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

Fair enough. I’m not even sure what RAA is.
It is pronounced like a tiny dinosaur roar?

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 00:23 (six years ago)

one month passes...

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― System, Monday, 11 November 2019 00:01 (six years ago)

I voted for Cole, but only because I didn't include a tie option.

― clemenza, Monday, 11 November 2019 00:07 (six years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:01 (six years ago)

rosenthal picked verlander, largely based on WHIP

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:02 (six years ago)

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