https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/10/21/sports/21chass.1.600.jpg
pretty sure every single prediction i've seen has the astros beating the dodgers (or occasionally some other NL team)
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
UNTIL NOW
AL
WC: Rays vs A's: RaysAstros vs Rays: AstrosTwins vs Yankees: YankeesAstros vs Yankees: Yankees
NL
WC: Brewers vs Nationals: NationalsDodgers vs Nationals: DodgersCardinals vs Braves: CardinalsCardinals vs Dodgers: Cardinals
Cardinals vs Yankees (the matchup all true Americans crave): Cardinals
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NL West: DodgersNL Central: CardinalsNL East: BravesNL WC1: NationalsNL WC2: Brewers
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link
oops, ignore the part after the dividing line at the end. the rest of my analysis is rock solid, though
the upper midwest longs for the Twins-Brewers series though a lot of unlikely events would have to conspire to bring this about
yanks-cards surely the drabbest series imaginable
rematch of 1991 twins-braves, greatest series of the contemporary era, not inconceivable though
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
my gut (which is a mad man) tells me that's what we'll get. my personal preference would be Rays v Brews.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
i would love to see the Rays do well, too. Tommy Pham 4ever
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
i think yankees-braves would be drabbest -- cardinals at least have lovely uniforms
rooting against nyy/atl/was; after that i guess i don't really care
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link
i'll always root against any team that encourages their fans to do the tomahawk chop, and also against any team that employs craig kimbrel
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link
even as a cubs fan i lol at the craig kimbrel signing, did theo not witness the 2019 season and playoffs?
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
DID THEO NOT WITNESS IT
he was busy witnessing the 2020 playoffs
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
A couple Ben Lindbergh pieces... First, we may have two of the all-time great teams here:
The 107-55 Astros and the record 106-56 Dodgers made 2019 the second season ever to boast two teams with at least 105 wins, after 1998, when the Yankees and Braves won 114 and 106, respectively. But wins and losses don’t always accurately reflect a team’s true performance. Baseball Prospectus’s archive of third-order records extends back to 1950, encompassing 70 seasons and 1,742 teams. (The complete list is here.) The Astros and Dodgers rank first and third all time, respectively, in third-order winning percentage, with only the 2001 Mariners placing ahead of L.A.
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/9/30/20891140/houston-astros-los-angeles-dodgers-rematch
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
and next, baseball juiciness and the postseason:
https://www.theringer.com/2019/10/1/20892852/juiced-ball-home-runs-launch-angle
also heard on the EW pod today that when relievers face more batters in this PS (do you doubt it? missed by two last year), it will be the first time.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
3rd order?!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
second order is how many teams a team should have won, considering overall runs scored and runs allowed. pythagorean wins and losses, in other words.
third order considers all that, plus quality of opponents
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=pct3
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
how many ^games^ a team should have won
Feels like the team that wins the post-season is the one with the most tools in the box, no matter what you threw at the Red Sox 2018 or Astros 2017, they always had a solution and they didn’t stick to one particular plan. I think this is the Dodgers this year, who might have learned from having a too monolithic approach at the plate in last year’s WS (loud swings/loud contacts). I think the Astros are the only team that can realistically stop them.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link
oh interesting. xpost
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link
that also sounds like the Rays – they are a team comprised of nothing but moving parts. their problem (with the playoffs) being, no big-name superstar that could potentially carry a line-up/rotation. which is kinda one reason i like them so much.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
I think Meadows is a superstar in the making but yes, agreed. Rays will be my bandwagon team (despite that shithead of an owner).
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
i can't keep the shithead owners straight, except for the Cubs and Mets.
Probably gonna root for a Presidential Resignation Series of 1974 rematch: Dodgers-A's.
(that could be shattered Wed night, of course)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
oh god - what did they Rays owner do (aside from being cheap)?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
just in time for the AL WC
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/amp/Oakland-s-curveball-City-sues-county-over-14481751.php
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
i know a Baseball Prospectus writer suggested this week that Nats piggyback Strasburg after Scherzer tonight. Anyone think they will?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link
you'd have to be almost certain they would (if the brewers can hit scherzer, at least). it's a do-or-die game, and the nats bullpen is terrible
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
that doesn't sound like a dave martinez kind of move
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link
also . . . idk.
i mean yes, it's a do-or-die game, but the goal is to win the world series, not beat milwaukee and get crushed by the dodgers. and i don't see how they can beat LA without scherzer/strasburg/corbin operating at full strength
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link
True, but assuming it's like a Straburg "throw day" ... two innings?
The Ringer MLB Show guys also suggested that the first game in the Atlanta series is more must-win than usual for the Braves because of Flaherty in Game 2.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
ugh i don't think i can bear it! Dodgers relief pitching will be the end of me .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link
keuchel has G1 for the braves, presumably soroka for G2
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link
I have no idea whether ATL has been sandbagging the last 10 days or if they really ran out of steam at the worst time.
― WmC, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:38 (five years ago) link
You're actually going to do this for a wild-card game? I mean, sometimes the Blue Jays beat the Astros.
https://www.mlb.com/news/brewers-nationals-position-by-position
They might instead limit themselves to two or three pertinent questions, starting with "Is Max Scherzer lights out?" If yes, that's enough right there.
The Unbearable Search for Content.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link
hypothetical starting pitchers as relief pitchers probably a moot point anyway with scherzer starting, of course
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link
The Brewers will win in 11 innings tonight because Dave Martinez will try to get six outs from Rodney.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 23:06 (five years ago) link
Scherzer has not been very Scherzer post-injury.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
see above
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:12 (five years ago) link
ohhhh lol max
― WmC, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:12 (five years ago) link
Off to a good start!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:13 (five years ago) link
Yessssssssss baby
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link
Do your dance, YG, do your dance.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link
will this game end before midnight eastern y/n
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link
Daym.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:28 (five years ago) link
Might be over soon!
wow. ok, so...imo get strasburg in but that's me
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:28 (five years ago) link
def not lights out
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:28 (five years ago) link
scherzer has only thrown 20 pitches - he can still throw a game 2 or 3.
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link
i was promised lights out
thames was so on that
i’m not sure that working insanely fast is in max’s best interests
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
Strasburg has had a 1.50 era or something since Max’s injury.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
if Martinez waits til it's 5-0 before pulling Max, would that be... Mathenaging?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link
The throw was actually way better than the catch (and the catch was great).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:09 (five years ago) link
Hey douchebag with the astros astronaut helmet on
― calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link
The astrodome is just a huge teepee and when the fly ball is corrupted by big business, what are the outfielders to do?
― calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:16 (five years ago) link
Brantley has always been an underrated player. I saw him make an unbelievable catch for the Indians against the Reds in the far corner of right field. It was a full speed and dive extension up in the wall corner. Amazing catch, easily one of the best I ever saw in person.
― earlnash, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:19 (five years ago) link
I haven't heard many Smoltz-called game the past couple of years...he seems like he's got a little tiredness or brain fog or disinterest going on now. He trails off without finishing his sentence more than he used to.
― Galangal Baker (WmC), Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link
Come on Gary
― calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:25 (five years ago) link
I think *that* double play was the death blow, finally.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:27 (five years ago) link
on what planet is that not a swing
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:43 (five years ago) link
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:58 (five years ago) link
deej
― mookieproof, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:59 (five years ago) link
I hope George isn’t blaming himself, he was as close as he could be.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:00 (five years ago) link
Congrats DJ LeMahieu on having your number retired by the Yankees.
BOOM
Juiced ball is back just in time to save the fucking Yankees.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:01 (five years ago) link
Fucking epic
― calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:02 (five years ago) link
you root for Amazon too?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:06 (five years ago) link
Springer will walk it off -- I'm calling it now.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:07 (five years ago) link
now walk 3 more, wifebeater
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:15 (five years ago) link
Everyone has their own opinion
― calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:15 (five years ago) link
Hahahaha eat shit yankees
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:17 (five years ago) link
helluva season
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:17 (five years ago) link
let's go nats
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:18 (five years ago) link
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:18 (five years ago) link
I literally love Jose Altuve!
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:18 (five years ago) link
EVIL VANQUISHED
SUCK IT, CALSTARS
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:19 (five years ago) link
ALTUVE¡¡¡¡¡
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:19 (five years ago) link
That crack of the bat and the sound of the crowd was **kisses fingers**
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:20 (five years ago) link
Dual abusers collapse! What an ending!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:20 (five years ago) link
hahahaaaaaa, great finish
― Galangal Baker (WmC), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:21 (five years ago) link
The Astros just don't know when to stop quitting.
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:23 (five years ago) link
Nailed it.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link
The elation of knowing the Chapman’s sweating shit grin will be replayed over and over and over for the foreseeable future.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link
I appreciated that response.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:30 (five years ago) link
We can now put the 2010s in the books as the greatest decade of New York baseball in a century.
Mets pennants: 1Yankees pennants: 0
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:31 (five years ago) link
After the 2016 World Series I coulda told the yanks fans to not rely on Chapman in postseason crunch time.
― omar little, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link
https://imgur.com/a/NnmiyV0
― buzza, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:41 (five years ago) link
As a Yankee fan I am disappointed, but as a baseball fan I must really appreciate the great heart and talent of Jose Altuve and the rest of the Astros. They were the better team. I wish them the best in the WS. And like the Brooklyn fans of old I say, “Wait For Next Year.”— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) October 20, 2019
― mookieproof, Sunday, 20 October 2019 06:59 (five years ago) link
Really? Better than the 80's?
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 08:48 (five years ago) link
The Mattingly teams were definitely the most boring Yankee teams of the last century.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 08:51 (five years ago) link
Yankees World Series appearances 1980s: 02010s: 0
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 20 October 2019 11:18 (five years ago) link
The Yankkes played the Dodgers in the 1981 World Series
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 October 2019 12:50 (five years ago) link
^^^^^^
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
admittedly the '80s are a close second
but Mike fuckin' Scioscia
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link
Giuliani avoiding the word "till" up there til he gets his hand out of it.
They had Rickey for awhile!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link
I... got my info from a tweet that's been deleted. Shame on me.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link
Those 80s teams were shitty but far from boring. The hirings and firings and Bronx Zoo melodrama kept on, and Winfield in addition to Rickey. Donnie Baseball was a joy.
Most boring Yankee decade was def the ten years pre-George, the Bobby Murcer/Mel Stottlemeyer teams
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
If we're talking about ten consecutive years, then those pre-George years were definitely the worst. But if we're dealing with decades, then they still won three WS titles, Whitey and Mickey, Maris' record ...
The '80's teams had some good players but not a single memorable team, the hirings and firings were a sad joke because the team wasn't winning (as opposed to the 70's).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 October 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link
The '85 team was sort of memorable in that they took the Jays to game #161, Mattingly and Henderson (and Brett) had a great MVP duel, Billy Martin was brought back again (4th time?), and--game #162--Neikro won his 300th. Maybe just memorable from a Toronto perspective.
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 October 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
Possible cheap win by Osuna last night.
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 October 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link
Steinbush bought em in '73, so'65-72 was the nadir of the CBS years. In NYC they're often called the Horace Clarke era.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 October 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link