Elly De La Cruz is raking in Cincinnati

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Through 14 games he's hitting .500 with an OPS of 1.250

ELLY DE LA CRUZ

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:22 (ten months ago) link

The man with the Midas bat.

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:28 (ten months ago) link

sheehan:

Elly De La Cruz has been in the majors for 17 days, and the Reds are 13-2 in that time, 12-2 when he starts. He’s hit .321/.387/.536, going a perfect 6-for-6 stealing bases. He’s 21 years old without a lot of experience above A ball, and yet he’s managing a credible 3.2-to-1 K/BB, 31% strikeout rate, and 10% walk rate. De La Cruz has been splitting time between shortstop and third base, looking like someone who has played shortstop a lot and third base not quite as much.

None of that gets at the experience of watching Elly De La Cruz play baseball. He’s calm and confident standing in the batter’s box, willing to make the pitcher come to him. When he gets the pitch he wants, he takes a powerful, controlled swing, and he’s already shown the ability to both attack in the zone and generate good contact outside of it. If he’s not the fastest player in baseball, he’s the fastest good player in baseball, applying that speed aggressively. De La Cruz is a triple waiting to happen, limited only by the size of modern ballparks.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 23 June 2023 22:42 (ten months ago) link

He has Soto’s presence, Franco’s position, Rutschman’s skill from both sides of the plate, and something extra, something Peter Gammons would call duende, the thing that makes you track a Reds game to make sure you see every one of his at-bats, and when he gets on base, stay with him to see what he does next.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 23 June 2023 22:43 (ten months ago) link

What a boooooooomb. He’s so much fun to watch

hrep (H.P), Friday, 23 June 2023 23:49 (ten months ago) link

Sheehan's description made me think of Puig right away--found this piece from 2013:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1680809-yasiel-puig-and-the-20-most-impressive-all-time-starts-to-an-mlb-career

clemenza, Saturday, 24 June 2023 00:23 (ten months ago) link

Here’s hoping his career doesn’t take the same direction

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 00:28 (ten months ago) link

On and off the field, I know...He's got almost a full year on Puig, so that's an advantage.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 June 2023 00:31 (ten months ago) link

DE LA CRUZ CYCLE!!!!!

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 00:58 (ten months ago) link

God this is so hype! What a player!!!!! Two weeks in the bigs and hits a cycle!!! Surely that has to be a record/close to a record?

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 00:59 (ten months ago) link

Sick stuff!!!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:20 (ten months ago) link

The logic part of my brain says no way anyone has done it so quick. But the baseball part says that probably ya, some dude probably did it in the 1930s or something

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:22 (ten months ago) link

I was keeping tabs on the boxscore, then went out for coffee--amazing.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:27 (ten months ago) link

Partial answer from ESPN:

He became the youngest player to hit for the cycle since Houston's César Cedeño in 1972, according to ESPN Stats & Information. De La Cruz is also the third player since 1901 to hit for the cycle within his first 15 career games.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:31 (ten months ago) link

Game still far from over, 10-11. Slugfest in cinny. De la Cruz about to come around for his 5th PA. Surely not another hit?

Side note: loving these Cinny uniforms. Very intimidating

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:40 (ten months ago) link

Damn first pitch pop-up.

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:44 (ten months ago) link

There are worse players to be aligned with than Cesar cedeno (absolutely insane player for awhile there, his peak was HOF level)

omar little, Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:47 (ten months ago) link

12 in a row. 5 straight comeback wins. 2 more wins and they tie their franchise high 14 from 1899. What a great great fun team. Braves will be a tough team to sweep, but the vibes are so good how could they not?

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:56 (ten months ago) link

Great interview right now too. Interviewer giving him all the permission in the world to bask in his own glory, he responds with “best fans in the world, amazing team, I’m just hear to contribute to the team and help them win, there’s nothing more than that”.

I don’t think there will be any Puig team-dynamic problems from this guy, what a great thing for the sport.

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:59 (ten months ago) link

(xpost) Me at 10 with Cedeno, spring training '72.

A list of everyone who's ever hit for the cycle for anyone ambitious enough to identify the other two first-15-games players:

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/hitting/Major_League_Baseball_Players_to_hit_for_the_cycle.shtml

clemenza, Saturday, 24 June 2023 03:56 (ten months ago) link

Great picture clemenza

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 24 June 2023 07:45 (ten months ago) link

Hal McCoy says he is the fastest Red since Deon, who he says was the fastest he ever saw and the probably has seen the most Reds games of anyone this side of Marty in person.

That infield hit to the first baseman a few days ago was a crazy play.

Lore is that Bob Howsam tried to get Cedeno from the Astros for the Reds a few times back in the 70s, but I think after he rooked them for Joe Morgan they were not dealing. Got to figure that the Astrodome probably knocked Cedeno's home run totals down a 100 or so.

earlnash, Saturday, 24 June 2023 11:41 (ten months ago) link

Thanks...Noticed something else about De La Cruz/Puig while putting a FB post together: Cruz's debut (June 6) was almost 10 years to the day after Puig's (June 3, 2013).

clemenza, Saturday, 24 June 2023 12:58 (ten months ago) link

This was kind of alarming if you were following De La Cruz's last AB online:

1 Ball 1 - 0 94.7 mph Four-Seam Fastball
2 Foul 1 - 1 94.8 mph Four-Seam Fastball

Game Advisory
Injury Delay

3 Foul Tip 1 - 2 82 mph Curveball
4 Foul 1 - 2 81.1 mph Curveball
5 In play, out(s) 94.6 mph Four-Seam Fastball

Not sure what happened--foul off his foot?

clemenza, Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:49 (ten months ago) link

Hal McCoy says he is the fastest Red since Deon,

Faster than Billy Hamilton? Because that guy was damn fast.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 25 June 2023 14:22 (ten months ago) link

Things that make you feel really old: an ex-student of mine referred to him as a kid ("the speed on this kid is unreal") on Facebook today.

clemenza, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:57 (ten months ago) link

MLB lists EdlC's height as 6'5" and Judge at 6'7" but I think they are a bit closer in height than that would indicate... who's bluffin?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 30 June 2023 04:21 (ten months ago) link

he was born in 2002! I'll go with kid

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 06:15 (ten months ago) link

all yr base are belong to him

ELLY DE LA CRUZ JUST STOLE HOME! 😱😱😱 pic.twitter.com/dx2WU3qfa3

— MLB (@MLB) July 8, 2023

mookieproof, Sunday, 9 July 2023 00:01 (ten months ago) link

when you’re in the same sentence with greasy neale

In the 7th inning of the Reds' win over the Brewers, rookie shortstop Elly De La Cruz became the first Reds player to steal 2nd, 3rd and home in the same inning since Greasy Neale in 1919.

The same Greasy Neale who coached the Eagles to the 1948 and 1949 NFL Championships.

— Reuben Frank (@RoobNBCS) July 8, 2023

mookieproof, Sunday, 9 July 2023 00:16 (ten months ago) link

Interview I heard with McCoy he said faster than Hamilton yes. At that level, it’s probably negligible.

The guy he reminds me of is Eric Davis, who I think was about the best athletic baseball player I ever saw play in person. People kind of forget how good he was before the injuries piled up.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 9 July 2023 00:41 (ten months ago) link

Don't know Greasy, but I thought of Jackie Robinson and Rickey Henderson.

clemenza, Sunday, 9 July 2023 04:39 (ten months ago) link

Elly so tall he can just reach out and touch home

two months pass...

Elly De La Cruz is not raking in Cincinnati

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 16:40 (eight months ago) link

He really has crashed. His monthly OPSs: .881, .686, .663, .557--that, and hitting under .200 in both August and September. Still has a decent shot at some postseason exposure, though.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 September 2023 22:30 (eight months ago) link

premature ILB threads titles are raking this year though

Michael F Gill, Monday, 18 September 2023 22:49 (eight months ago) link

He’s only 21, league adjusted to him. MLB hyped him up hard, I still see about two of his highlights on every ad break during a game. Hopefully he can work on some things during winter ball & come back better.

ydkb (gyac), Monday, 18 September 2023 22:55 (eight months ago) link

premature ILB threads titles are raking this year though

My favourite: The Thread with a Looming Expiry Date: Luis Arraez Aims for .400

clemenza, Monday, 18 September 2023 23:59 (eight months ago) link

I actually wanted to bump that one cos I noticed Arraez had started hitting homers and wanted to register my fear if that’s a new development that sticks

ydkb (gyac), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 00:13 (seven months ago) link

I think medium-range power is normal for his kind of hitter: Carew, Boggs, Gwynn, and Ichiro all had at least a couple of years where they hit 10-20 HR (Gwynn had a few), and Boggs hit 24 one year.

I'm looking at Arraez's splits (wrong thread, I know--I'll go over there if I have anything more to say), and it's really just August where he struggled (.236). He's .382 for the rest of the year. His next hit is his 200th.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 00:31 (seven months ago) link

simply insane that Boggs got 200 hits in seven. seasons. in a row. (and then never got 200 hits again.) we didn't know we were fucking born back then, the guy was consistently hitting over .350 for the season, season after season.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:13 (seven months ago) link

By the way, between the Luis Arreaz thread and this--Jumping the Gun: the Carlos Correa Thread like to think I invented the meta-premature thread.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 11:10 (seven months ago) link

"I'd like to think..." (some coding glitch--I actually did have a closing em-dash and those words).

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 11:13 (seven months ago) link

I dunno if anything can beat the crash and burn of the Wander Franco thread title. yikes.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 13:02 (seven months ago) link

Y'all Elly dlC is back to raking again

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 29 September 2023 11:41 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

He smashed Hunter Greene’s car window with a foul ball in spring training!

From EDLC’s Instagram:

https://i.postimg.cc/qR93cS2h/IMG-5725.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/28NW1pzg/IMG-5726.jpg

From Hunter Greene’s Instagram:
https://i.postimg.cc/Kv7ML9jj/IMG-5727.jpg

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 11:23 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

This is brave, charming & impressive (especially in light of MLB drama this week):

Elly De La Cruz did his entire press conference in English, for the first time today.

“It’s important for the fans to understand me, and me understand the fans.”pic.twitter.com/IQOo4IIWwB

— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) March 28, 2024

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 02:57 (one month ago) link

Refreshing even! A timeline cleanse for all the bad vibes~~~

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:07 (one month ago) link

what do de la cruz's fielding stats say? as someone who's SABR-illiterate

, Sunday, 7 April 2024 12:00 (one month ago) link

way too early for fielding stats to be reliable this early in 2024, but for 2023 he was well above average by the statcast Outs Above Average (OAA) measure - +4 OAA, which put him at the 85th percentile compared to others at SS/3B. his arm strength is already among the best of the game, at the 98th percentile

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/elly-de-la-cruz-682829?stats=statcast-r-fielding-mlb

i think the three hardest throwing shortstops in the game are all in the NL Central - elly de la cruz, oneil cruz, and masyn wynn

z_tbd, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link

(if you want to know more about OAA, there are many more details on what it measures and how it's calculated here: https://www.mlb.com/glossary/statcast/outs-above-average)

z_tbd, Sunday, 7 April 2024 16:00 (one month ago) link

ty zach! was just wondering because he's messed up a few easy gimmes in this mets-reds series

, Monday, 8 April 2024 00:17 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Didn't realize he was playing so well:

https://www.mlb.com/news/elly-de-la-cruz-power-speed-breakout-2024

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2024 15:33 (two weeks ago) link

tonite: 4-4 w/ 4 SBs versus Glasnow @ LAD

.277/.378/.516 (.894 OPS #17 in MLB)

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 May 2024 06:03 (yesterday) link

is he on pace to challenge rickey?

, Friday, 17 May 2024 12:18 (yesterday) link

30/44 team games = 110, so theoretically, within range (Henderson stole 130). But he's been on base 65 times (43 hits + 22 walks), and that projects to 239; Henderson was on 259 times, so probably not. Still wow, though. Of the nine seasons of 100 (Henderson, Brock, Coleman, Wills), only Henderson slugged over .400 in one of them (.421).

clemenza, Friday, 17 May 2024 12:31 (yesterday) link

His success rate, it should be mentioned, is much better than Henderson's in '82: 30/35 for De La Cruz, 130/172 for Henderson. The rules are more favorable to base stealers now, though, right?

clemenza, Friday, 17 May 2024 15:23 (yesterday) link

Yes - not quite apples to oranges. That said today's pitchers, partic relievers, are nastier than what Rickey had to face.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 May 2024 15:26 (yesterday) link

Lol I mean apples to apples.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 May 2024 15:26 (yesterday) link

Henderson became a better percentage base stealer as he got older--in the 70-80% range his first four seasons, 82% for the rest of his career. He seemed pretty hell-bent on breaking Brock's record early on.

clemenza, Friday, 17 May 2024 15:31 (yesterday) link

(Plus he had a rather erratic manager...)

clemenza, Friday, 17 May 2024 15:32 (yesterday) link

i'm not a fan of the oven mitts and pizza boxes. but maybe they're needed if pitches are getting to the plate faster and catchers have stronger arms than 30 years ago.

, Friday, 17 May 2024 15:34 (yesterday) link


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