― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― earlnash, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)
But wasn't there a game where he only pinch hit? If you take that game out, then you get 107.9999998
― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)
You know, at first I thought this thread was a joke but it's becoming harder and harder to ignore all the evidence that's piling up.
― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)
30 / 20 x 162 = 243
He's currently 90 behind Rickey Henderson (tentatively retired). This projects Bonds ending with 2,313 at season-end. The next closest active player is nearly one thousand walks behind: Frank Thomas at 1,386.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)
also:http://www.goldpanners.com/Archive/Cards/2003_Team/03-24_bonds_front%20copy.jpg
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago)
― l. ron gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago)
i touched on this earlier in the season but i will return to it again.SFO is #10 in MLB in BA, yet they are #3 in OBP. There was a study done by a statistician that claims that walking Bonds put the opponent at a statistical disadvantage.
The BA:OBP gap is undoubtedly attributed to the [projected] 231 walks awarded to Bonds this year. Whether MVP voters will realize what the value of walking one player 231 times in a season (or just little one-offs like Jose Mesa IBB-ing Bonds to open up the 10th Inning of a game last week for example) is one thing, that .600 OBP curiosity just hanging out there with noone entirely sure what to make of it.
People say when talking about Babe Ruth, he was so great... he hit more home runs than entire teams did. Bonds alone gets put on first base in 4 pitches more than any other team in history. And while that obviously shuts the door on any hope of a machisimo era for the sport, I think it more bleakly exposes the corporatization (ie, accountability, conservatisim) of baseball. and that ain't no fun!
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:13 (twenty years ago)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago)
Compare the two in the following situations:
With Runners On:Bonds - .376 BA, .690 OBP, .798 SLG, 1.488 OPSRolen - .344 BA, .421 OBP, .656 OBP, 1.077 OPS
With Runners In Scoring Position:Bonds - .393 BA, .752 OBP, .875 SLG, 1.627 OPSRolen - .392 BA, .466 OBP, .817 SLG, 1.283 OPS
So who really is more valuable with runners on base, which is the only offensive category where Bonds trails Rolen?
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago)
ibb's aren't at all equivalent to "earned" walks as a rule, but bonds is walked so much that he probably makes up a lot of the gap.
barry has scored 25.6% of the time he's been on base. that's low, but probably pretty high for a guy who bats 4th in a weak lineup (what are the giants collective #5's 6 and 7 slots hitting?and is put on so often at the opponents' discretion. adam dunn is at 27%, to toss out one random comparison. rolen 36% from the last cell of the cards' murderer's row, pujols, 39%, thome 24%.
i remember harold reynolds doing similar calcs early in the season to try and demonstrate that OBP is overrated by showing that the slower OBP men just end up just clogging the bases. of course, he didn't show anything because he was comparing leadoff men to cleanup hitters (and probably cherry-picking at that) but it is interesting that the two fat, slow guys above are so low. probably meaningless, but i'd read a study if there was/is one on the subject. (i'm sure there is, actually, and i think i've read it, but i can't remember any of it now except that it had to do w/ ichiro)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:38 (twenty years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 23 August 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago)
One of the Mets' radio guys -- I hope it was the oft-clueless Howie Rose -- said yesterday "The Mets have pitched to Bonds, and that's to their credit..." Oh really? If they walked him every time, maybe they win 2 of 3.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago)
http://barrybonds.mlb.com/players/bonds_barry/imgs/isync.jpg
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago)
Barry since the break:
.378/.578/.867
And that OBP is 50 points LOWER than the first half! He's gone free-swingin' on us!
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago)
Barry Bonds had a 5.000 OPS against 23 pitchers, including Guillermo Mota, whom he faced nine times.
― mookieproof, Saturday, 28 December 2013 03:06 (eleven years ago)
Do you have to pay extra for the play index, or do I just not know how to use it? Fascinating looking through that list.
1) Against Atlanta's big three: Smoltz (.284/.467/.701), Glavine (.329/.442/.588), Maddux (.262/.370/.485)
2) I think the first good-to-great pitcher to show up on the list (in a decent sample) who was owned by Bonds is Tim Hudson (.407/.500/1.000)
3) Couldn't hit David Cone at all (.175/.267/.275)
4) By Bonds's standards, basically a draw vs. Randy Johnson (.306/.452/.551); hardly went to bat against Clemens, Pedro, or Mussina
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago)
Name the five guys who finished ahead of Bonds in 1986's ROY voting.
Includes: one (almost?) borderline HOF'er, one future MVP, one pretty good career reliever, a good middle infielder, and one flaky guy of no consequence whatsoever.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago)
Roger McDowell is career reliever, right?
Trying to remember who even won NL that year.... Canseco was AL.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago)
Completely forgot that was Worrell's rookie year. For some reason I thought it was 87 (when he was so dominant).
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago)
You've got Worrell. Geographically speaking, you should have an easy time with three of the other four.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago)
Yeah I looked. Honestly I don't remember that regular season that much (the next year was when I started following A's games religiously) but I definitely remember the post-season.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago)
I was impressed looking at Robby Thompson's career box. He was damn good until he fell off a cliff at 32.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago)
Very solid in his day yeah. In a non-Ryne Sandberg alternative universe he would likely have gotten more attention.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago)
http://regressing.deadspin.com/barry-bonds-was-an-alien-god-who-destroyed-space-time-t-1610228611
― mookieproof, Thursday, 24 July 2014 20:11 (ten years ago)
relevant!https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2021860612/barry-bronze-the-barry-bonds-statue-project
― action bronson pinchot (sanskrit), Friday, 25 July 2014 01:11 (ten years ago)
https://twitter.com/BarryBonds
― mookieproof, Friday, 5 September 2014 18:36 (ten years ago)
Joan Rivers you are forever loved and will be missed.#RIPJoanRivers
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 5 September 2014 18:50 (ten years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzcx_fyCUAAA50B.png
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:18 (ten years ago)
thinking baout things
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:19 (ten years ago)
the player's coffee
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:49 (ten years ago)
Probably decaf now.
― cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:50 (ten years ago)
Bob Costas sanctimoniously questions Barry's sudden ability to effortlessly lift such a massive cup of coffee, and how Barry ruined the grand old tradition of drinking from a mug.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:55 (ten years ago)
that is clearly some North Beach cappuccino, his cup has shrunk in recent years
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:57 (ten years ago)
that neck.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:17 (ten years ago)
where?!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:24 (ten years ago)
https://www.sbnation.com/2015/4/2/8320137/barry-bonds-sf-giants-hall-of-fame-history-hagiography-love-letter-miss-u
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:48 (ten years ago)
WHO NEEDS A DESIGNATED HITTER
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 21:35 (ten years ago)
https://twitter.com/BarryBonds/status/618502434319650816
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 19:32 (nine years ago)
New Barry seems so chill.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:30 (nine years ago)
feds dropped their case! $6 million well used.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 July 2015 02:36 (nine years ago)
@CraigMishBarry Bonds just beat the Marlins players on a back field HR BP contest. Including Stanton.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:03 (nine years ago)
#freebarry
― How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:11 (nine years ago)
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (666 of them)He hit #666 last night.
― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, April 20, 2004
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:02 (nine years ago)
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (667 of them)
:(
― Sorry To Be The Bearer Of Bad Poos (Leee), Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:35 (nine years ago)
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/15880107/miami-marlins-hitting-coach-barry-bonds-says-acted-straight-stupid-mlb-career
He's sorry for being a dick all those years. But when he tried not being a dick, he didn't hit as well, so his teammates asked him to be more of a dick again.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:52 (nine years ago)
Joking aside, I'll happily take Bonds' side in this. If he wants to be a loner, let him, it's nobody's business.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:53 (nine years ago)
You might want to turn off your Javascript before visiting this site but: http://oldtimefamilybaseball.com/post/73935637744/25-greatest-barry-bonds-facts
― Nicholas Nickelback (Leee), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 23:42 (eight years ago)
what should i ask Barry at the SABR panel in 3 weeks? Ozuna's swing, or how he turned down his assholishness?
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 July 2016 00:39 (eight years ago)
For your sake, the latter.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:03 (eight years ago)
yeah i knew someone was gonna drive through that; good work, librarian
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 July 2016 11:27 (eight years ago)
find a way to ask both in the same question
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:16 (eight years ago)
You know I had to Google Ozuna to find out he wasn't a Japanese player.
― Nicholas Nickelback (Leee), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:49 (eight years ago)
Ask him why Ichiro doesn't hit more home runs
― a simba man (Will M.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:10 (eight years ago)
not the devil, but "special advisor" to the Giants' chief executive (whoever that is)
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:17 (eight years ago)
back home where he belongs <3
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:28 (eight years ago)
Currently on television, speaking about hitting mechanics, wearing Giants gear.
― Andy K, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:48 (eight years ago)
"Can you still hit?"
"Very well."
― Andy K, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:51 (eight years ago)
He could still slug as a DH I bet.
― Handsome Bookor, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:24 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwMfT2cZGHg&t=3s
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 April 2017 05:44 (eight years ago)
http://www.sbnation.com/2017/4/11/15264034/barry-bonds-2004-stats-chart-party
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 April 2017 05:45 (eight years ago)
I understand the point he's making, but without a bat, well, you know...
― clemenza, Friday, 14 April 2017 17:00 (eight years ago)
Barry, other retired stars flee fire
http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/Barry-Bonds-among-star-athletes-evacuated-from-12265500.php
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:12 (seven years ago)
John Perrotto was a guest on Friday’s episode of FanGraphs Audio, and among the subjects addressed by the longtime Pittsburgh Pirates beat writer was the team’s famously parsimonious ownership. The penny-pinching ways date back to the departure of Barry Bonds via free agency in 1992. I asked Perrotto if there was there any chance that the the reigning NL MVP was going to stay in Pittsburgh.“No, the Pirates weren’t going to pay him,” Perrotto said on the podcast. “The picture that has been painted here over the years is [that] Barry hated it in Pittsburgh and couldn’t wait until the minute he could get out of town. That’s not true…. In fact, during the 1992 season — this was some time after the All-Star break, probably in August — I talked to him after a game. Let me set a little background here before I get ahead of myself.“The two Pittsburgh newspapers were on strike, so you didn’t have as much media as you normally would in the clubhouse after the game,” continued Perrotto, who was covering the team for the suburban Beaver County Times. “He’d been the star of the game… and after we talked about that, I said, ‘Hey, what would it take for you to stay here?,’ thinking he was going to say, ‘I don’t know. That’s something for my agent to discuss.’ [Instead], he goes, ‘Five years/25 million and I’ll sign tomorrow.’ I said, ’Is that on the record?’ He said, ‘Yeah, man. Write it. Five years/25 million and I’ll sign tomorrow.’”Hall of Fame catcher Ted Simmons was the Pirates GM at the time. Perrotto walked back to the press box, picked up a phone, and called Simmons to pass along what Bonds had said. Simmons — equal parts excited and pleasantly surprised — proceeded to call the team’s president.“Mark Sauer had been brought in to cut costs.” Perrotto said of the former Pittsburgh executive. “I know people will find this hard to believe, but the Pirates had the sixth-highest payroll in baseball in 1991. They weren’t always cheap; they weren’t always at the bottom of the payroll standings. They did spend money in the early ‘90s, when they won three division titles in the National League East from ’90 to ’92. But they were on a payroll-reduction kick, and Mark Sauer told Ted Simmons, ‘No, we can’t do that.”Bonds went on to sign a then-record six-year/43.75M contract with the San Francisco Giants in December. As Giants owner Peter Magowan put it at the time, “It’s a lot of money, but there’s only one Barry Bonds.”
“No, the Pirates weren’t going to pay him,” Perrotto said on the podcast. “The picture that has been painted here over the years is [that] Barry hated it in Pittsburgh and couldn’t wait until the minute he could get out of town. That’s not true…. In fact, during the 1992 season — this was some time after the All-Star break, probably in August — I talked to him after a game. Let me set a little background here before I get ahead of myself.
“The two Pittsburgh newspapers were on strike, so you didn’t have as much media as you normally would in the clubhouse after the game,” continued Perrotto, who was covering the team for the suburban Beaver County Times. “He’d been the star of the game… and after we talked about that, I said, ‘Hey, what would it take for you to stay here?,’ thinking he was going to say, ‘I don’t know. That’s something for my agent to discuss.’ [Instead], he goes, ‘Five years/25 million and I’ll sign tomorrow.’ I said, ’Is that on the record?’ He said, ‘Yeah, man. Write it. Five years/25 million and I’ll sign tomorrow.’”
Hall of Fame catcher Ted Simmons was the Pirates GM at the time. Perrotto walked back to the press box, picked up a phone, and called Simmons to pass along what Bonds had said. Simmons — equal parts excited and pleasantly surprised — proceeded to call the team’s president.
“Mark Sauer had been brought in to cut costs.” Perrotto said of the former Pittsburgh executive. “I know people will find this hard to believe, but the Pirates had the sixth-highest payroll in baseball in 1991. They weren’t always cheap; they weren’t always at the bottom of the payroll standings. They did spend money in the early ‘90s, when they won three division titles in the National League East from ’90 to ’92. But they were on a payroll-reduction kick, and Mark Sauer told Ted Simmons, ‘No, we can’t do that.”
Bonds went on to sign a then-record six-year/43.75M contract with the San Francisco Giants in December. As Giants owner Peter Magowan put it at the time, “It’s a lot of money, but there’s only one Barry Bonds.”
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/sunday-notes-danny-coulombe-executes-sliders-and-curves/
― the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Sunday, 6 March 2022 16:14 (three years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/nuKeiZB.png
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