― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)
Lance BerkmanBarry ZitoJosh Beckett
How do yall see those three doing? Any word on Berkman's injury? Last I heard he was out until May or June...
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
1) Draft retired players2) Draft NRIs3) Don't bother with ace starting pitchers - they're too volatile; stick w/ rotation fillers and spot-starters for full rotational flexibility.4) Always draft more than you need - why settle for 2 2B when you can have 14?5) If you can't attend the draft, let someone that doesn't like you draft for you. If you're in a Yahoo! league, just sit back & let Yahoo!'s rankings lead you to victory!
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
1) Josh Beckett2) Barry Zito96) Lance Berkman
Don't talk to me about Lance Berkman, though - we have a "history".
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)
ramon hernandez (no)mark teixera (yes)placido polanco (no)khalil greene (no but considering it)hank blalock (yes)bobby abreau (yes)lance berkman (most likely no)brian giles (no)hideki matsui (considering it)josh beckett (considering it)francisco cordero (no)josh fogg (no)jeff francis (no but i like him)brett tomko (no)david wells (no)jake westbrook (no)barry zito (considering it)craig a wilson (no)jeremy reed (no)shannon stewart (no)kaz matsui (no)doug davis (no)
the minor leaguers i am keeping are:
rich hardenbj uptondavid wrightbobby madritsch
i could try to trade for renteria (he's definitely available), but other than that, these are my options. honestly, i'd like to just keep three players as none of the rest of them seem particularly keeper-worthy (and i was one of the best teams last year!), but i have no clue who to take. possibly skewing my view: berkman and zito are the only two players who have always been on my team, so i feel a bit of loyalty to them. but certainly if i let berkman go i'll try to draft him again -- maybe in the third or fourth round.
so, help pls!
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)
I traded Manny for Big Unit before the season, and I rocked all of ILBB's collective glutes (except for one of yall).
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
& are those the only minor leaguers you have on your roster? I dunno about BM...
I would love to join a $$$$ league, if only to give myself something to REALLY cry about.
And, yeah, Schilling was great, but my other starters were dongtastic (literally - I think I lead in HRs Allowed by a wiiiide margin).
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)
and yeah, i have no choice with bm. but i think he'll be a solid if mediocre starter. i'm not expecting much from him. my other minor leaguers are ace, though.
also, david, next time there's an opening in my league, i'll nominate you. you'd fit in well.
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)
1) Josh Beckett2) Jake Westbrook3) Hideki Matsui4) Khalil Greene
... & either let everyone else screw or plot to pick them up again in the draft.
Having Blalock & Wright = NICE! Hope you have a DH spot.
xpost - yeah, I was just thinking that JW would be a guy you can sneak through waivers & pick back up. He is a question mark, given his performance level last year, the amount of work he did, the bullpen (eeeesh), but I think he's a risk worth taking. I feel the same way about Greene, though - I don't know what he's projected to do, & I'm not sure that his performance right before he broke himself is indicative of what he WILL do, but I'd think there are comparable SS folks out there that it's not worth using a key slot on him (unless you have no one else better).
I guess what I'm saying is - go w/ Godzilla.
xxpost - thanks!
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)
i'm really going to miss this league this year.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)
always lots of good pitching pickups to be made on the waiver wires, though. weaver and carpenter really helped out quite a bit.
― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
In my other now-defunct league ("defunct" = "exited stage left, w/ door hitting ass"), I grabbed Odalis Perez & Vincente Padilla off of waivers, back when that meant something. Of course, my roomy, not to be outdone, managed to snag both Zito AND Mulder way way back when they were rookies (and really good).
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)
who are the nominees for this year's loiza? he doesn't quite qualify, but i think vazquez will have a big year.
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
Would it be too much or too obvious for me to think that Wade Miller could sneak up on folks? I think Odalis might surprise folks that were obsessed w/ his shitty W/L record. Oh, wait, here's a really goofy one - DEREK LOWE. Sure, he had an awful WHIP & ERA the last 2 years, and has allowed an inordinate number of hits, and the Dodgers are playing Jeff Kent & Jose Hernandez in their IF, but, y'know, Chavez Ravine's a pitcher's park. (Who's the LA pitching coach?)
Not-so-shocking true story: I was in the crapper a few days ago, & heard some Sox / Yankee fans talking shop, and the Sox fan was worried that they wouldn't be able to overcome Derek Lowe's departure. I almost jumped out of the stall, trou dropped, and gave him the business.
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
BRETT TOMKO.
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
How's Jerome Williams doing, health wise? I have a lingering stat-crush on him after his 2K3 cup of coffee. Also - JESSE FOPPERT. Also also - JOEL PINEIRO?
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)
1 gave up a bloop single to Jason Grabowski on a full count2 struck out Tom Wilson on a full count3 nearly gets Hee Seop Choi to ground into a double play (fielders choice, Choi safe at 1st by a step) on 1 pitch4 strikes out Orlando Saenz on 5 pitches (AJ Pierzynski drops the 3rd strike and has to rifle it over to Feliz).
His winter league stats as mentioned above are mixed: 6.08 ERA for Manati in the PR League in 23.2 innings with a 23:8 K:BB ratio (which at one point was 19:1).
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
Jaret WrightCarl Pavano-- Less likely than Wright, but still he has only been a good starter for a year and a half.
I'd like to get Matsui on my team as he is very consistent and plays every day. Godzilla has also improved both years in the USA, so if he is going to have a bust out season, this might be the year.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
Johnson RandySantana JohanSchmidt JasonSchilling CurtSheets BenMartinez PedroOswalt RoyPrior MarkZambrano CarlosClement Matt
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
Jaret Wright is definitely in line to be this year's Loaiza, if you're talking about last year's Loaiza.
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)
-- Jams Murphy (ystrickle...), February 9th, 2005 9:38 AM. (ystrickler)
Very interesting that PECOTA didn't include either of Oakland's former "TWO BEST PITCHERS IN BASEBALL OMG HOW COULD HE DO THIS TO US?!?!?!?!?!!" in their top 10 list, in spite of both going from the AL to NL.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 10 February 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)
but dear god i want derek lowe to have a fantastic year in l.a., he has been my favorite red sock of the past 5 years. i hope he wins the nl cy young, it will make me feel better about taking him too early in my fantasy drafts for the last 4 years.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 11 February 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
I'm really excited to start following A's games this year.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
abreaubeckettblalockmatsuiteixera
minors:david wrightbj uptonbobby madritschrich harden
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 17 February 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 February 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)
as for cordero, i agree that saves are easy to come by. yet based on how my league does points, he ended up being the fourth overall pitcher last year, and his numbers are good: not a lot of walks, etc. and as danny kolb proved last year, the quality of the team you play for doesn't mean all that much when it comes to saves...
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 17 February 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
I loathe saves as a fantasy stat (aside from the usual SABR-fueled arguments), because it's the one place where I get the shaft (besides, y'know, FIELDING PERCENTAGE) - I either forget about drafting a closer until it's too late, or I draft a closer that gets hurt (HI EDDIE G!), and I end up having to rely on Rocky Biddle & my mom to GET ONE SAVE while some owner that hasn't checked his team since February has THIRTEEN save guys riding virtual pine & someone else decides to collect would-be closing candidates off the waiver-wire like they're Lladro statuettes.
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 February 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
K. Bobby Abreeu (OF)K. Hideki Matsui (OF)K. Josh Beckett (P)K. Mark Teixiera (1B)K. Hank Blalock (3B)K. Rich Harden (P)K. Bobby Madritsch (P)K. David Wright (3B)K. BJ Upton (SS)
And now the draft:
01 Adam Dunn (OF)02 Javier Vazquez (P)03 Francisco Cordero (P)04 Khalil Greene (SS)05 Bret Boone (2B)06 Brandon Inge (C)07 Larry Walker (OF)08 Derek Lowe (P)09 Chad Cordero (P)10 Craig Wilson (1B/OF/3B)11 Woody Williams (P)12 Jeff Francis (P)13 Wily Mo Pena (OF)14 Dan Meyer (P)15 Mike Adams (P)16 Ian Stewart (3B)17 Joel Guzman (SS)18 Chris Capuano (P)
Guys I regret taking: Inge and Boone. But for their positions and considering the round, they were solid picks I thought. Worst pick: Kelvim Escobar went #9 overall.
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Sunday, 20 March 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
C Inge1B Teixiera2B BooneSS Greene3B BlalockCI WilsonOF AbreuOF MatsuiOF DunnDH Walker or PenaP BeckettP HardenP MadritschP VazquezP CorderoP LoweP CorderoP Williams
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Sunday, 20 March 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
OK, that's what I thought that meant, but I wasn't sure. Hmmm ... so StatTracker is also responsible for putting the little accents next to a pitcher's name on the day he starts? I guess I'll have to start looking that stuff up myself?
I'll see how dependent I am on this stuff once ST is taken away, then maybe I'll pony up the $10 (pro: lotsa stats, con: lotsa stats, I'll never leave the computer!!)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)
― the leglo (the leglo), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
I'd require youth w/ upside if it's a keeper league (our friend Greinke) or a legit #1 or #2 starter for either Young or Renteria.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
I agree with you -- scotch the trade. Lowe is a bit unpredictable from year to year, but he plays in a pitchers park and he's giving up waaay fewer baserunners than he used to (incl. a much improved walk rate). Clement is the opposite, he's giving up way more baserunners than he typically does, and he plays in a hitters park.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, that was my instinct, MIR, I just wanted some ILBB support.
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
Even if you're getting lapped in wins, it's only one category - give me a guy like a Randy Johnson or a Ben Sheets from last year over some win-happy jerk like Russ Ortiz. The wins might not be there for RJ or BS, but the other areas they help you in (ERA, WHIP, Ks) more than make up for that deficiency.
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
So, me, I'd take Clement. Better track record, higher-powered offense, likely to rebound from his walk troubles. You'd be selling high on Lowe (I don't expect four more three-hit shutouts) and buying low on Clement, usually a good strategy.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)
C Joe MauerC Jason Varitek1B Hee Seop Choi2B Marcus Giles2B Tadahito Iguchi3B Mike Lowell3B Bill MuellerSS Jason BartlettSS Khalil GreeneOF Jason BayOF Milton BradleyOF Lew FordOF Mark KotsayOF Manny RamirezOF Alex Rios
SP Joe BlantonSP Matt ClementSP Kelvim EscobarSP Jon GarlandSP Brad HalseySP Rich HardenSP Scott KazmirSP John PattersonSP Tim WakefieldSP Jeff WeaverRP Ambiorix BurgosRP Octavio DotelRP LaTroy HawkinsRP Todd Jones
Currently in 11th place out of 13 teams. Desperately in need of RBI, runs, saves and wins. (Garland was a late waiver pickup and has thus far yielded no bounty; ditto Patterson, but with one win counting so far.) Hee Seop has been coming around, but isn't exactly a lethal weapon at first.
― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
ARI vs COL tonight. Brandon Webb (who doesn't have a great record in Coors, but pitched well and won in a game there earlier in the season) gets the start.
I've got three Rockies on my roster, and I'd like to play them all (FLA vs SD and Peavy tonight, so Mike Lowell's ass is gonna ride the pine for my team). Of course, starting three Rockies vs Webb seems like a zero-sum game for my team.
Obv. these sorts of situations aren't uncommon in fantasy baseball, so how do you guys strategize them? Is there a "general principle" to follow (i.e. "more often than not, side with the starting pitcher") or is each situation different and must be dealt with individually?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 14 May 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 14 May 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
My rotation will be:SantanaCarpenterHardenCapuano[Wood or Bedard: whoever comes off the DL first]
My outfield will be:A. JonesM. CameronR. Sanderswith V. Wells in reserve
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)
In my other league, I have too many starting pitchers. I'm already 7.2 IP over my projected limit, and I have four starters going tonight -- Chris Carpenter, Hiroki Kuroda, Derek Lowe and Mike Pelfrey. Should I sit one of them? Do you guys generally hit your IP limit early and hope for the best in the last few weeks of the season, or do you try to pace yourself?
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)
I don't really pay attention to innings at all. It doesn't matter when you get your innings. The trick is to get the highest quality innings you can get, so if you believe all those guys will play well, you might as well play them. Who knows: you might get hit by injuries, and have to fill innings with chumps from the free agent pool.
That said, Lowe hasn't looked too hot this year.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
yea id say just go hard w/ guys & matchups ur confident in
― johnny crunch, Friday, 7 May 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
i'd sit lowe against philly
― ciderpress, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
trade PELFREY ASAP wtf... check that expiration date man...
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
― ciderpress, Friday, May 7, 2010 5:23 PM (2 hours ago)
aaagh
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:31 (fifteen years ago)
dude, lemme give you some advice: do NOT start an avg-to-lousy pitcher against the best offense in the NL (MLB?) in their bandbox of a stadium... for future reference, of course.
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
... in your *other* leagues.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)
funnily enough i have lowe in the ilx league and i didn't sit him
― ciderpress, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:22 (fifteen years ago)
ok, more advice for my other league. I need a shortstop. Another team really wants Prince Fielder from my team and is offering Lance Berkman + my choice of Alex Gonzales or R. Furcal for Fielder. This sounds like something I should jump at. But maybe I want to hold out for Berkman + Jimmy Rollins for Fielder...? They want Fielder because they're Brewers fans -- sentiment always makes people overpay for something right? What would be my best deal here?
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Thursday, 13 May 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
Don't think you'll be able to get Berkman + Rollins for Fielder. I'd be tempted to see if I can find a shortstop on the wire. Did you try to claim Castro?
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 May 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
Castro's available -- is he really all that?
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Thursday, 13 May 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
he'll prob be equal in value to furcal, better than alex g & slightly worse than rollins, altho arguably not
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know if he's all that, but he's free, and so far he's been pretty good.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 14 May 2010 05:01 (fifteen years ago)
Picked him up -- pretty sure he'll outdo Cliff Pennington.
Also got James Loney, who was just sitting there available! So if the other team is willing to do Prince for Rollins straight-up, I think it'll be a pretty good net gain.
This other league is kinda O_O, but fun because there's only 10 teams.
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 14 May 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)