The Rolling 2005 FIRST PLACE BLUE JAYS thread

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Hey -- the title is correct as of today.

In a 5-2 shellacking of the mighty Devil Rays, Halladay was sharp (2ER, 0BB, that's my boy), Wells, Hinske and Hudson all hit jacks, and the defense sparkled.

I'm sure this thread will just be six months of me and Thermo complaining about crappy bullpens, but who cares, I wanted an ILBB Blue Jays thread to call our own.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

David Bush's fine instincts should be congratulated, at least.

― scrimshaw (scrimshaw1837), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure this thread will just be six months of me and Thermo complaining about crappy bullpens
Oh - I'm sure it'll be much more than that. Like us complaining about our lack of a real clean-up hitter or the fact that almost our entire starting rotation is barely out of high school. I'm sure we'll have lots of fun!
I picked up our tickets for Friday, btw.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

And the quest for a perfect season continues...

My interest in the Jays (and baseball in general) usually decreases quite a bit by the end of June until the playoffs begin but maybe this season will be different. Maybe the lack of NHL playoffs will cause me to be bored of baseball by May.

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

Why isn't the game on TV?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

btw...josh towers just LOOKS like he's in high school.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Bloody craptastic bullpen.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Ah yes, it begins again.

The line on Schoeneweis:


                 IP  H  R  ER BB K  HR  PC-ST   ERA 
(L, 0-1; H, 3) 	0.0  3  4  4  1  0  0 	12-5 	27.00

Way to pick up the hold, though!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

How the fuck do you blow a game and still get a hold?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

Better question - how do you get a hold w/out recording an out!?!?!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

They're still in first -- tied with the Yanks -- but New York's pythagorean record is a little better, so I think they might be a better team this year.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Jays almost pulled it out tonight against Foulke, scoring two runs off him and loading the bases with two outs. However, Hudson grounded out and it ended 6-5.

This was the most lively games I've seen in a while, a combination of opening day madness, Red Sox fans making the pilgimage to Toronto and Leafs fans letting off drunken steam in the absence of hockey.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

glad I don't have League anywhere.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

But it was mostly the Leafs fans armed to the teeth with free stuff!
But a great game - even tho WE MISSED SLASH!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

What was with the people throwing magnets (?) onto the field? Was that a combination of the previously mentioned drunken steam and being armed to the teeth with free stuff?
Even Geddy Lee was in attendance. He got alot of TV time too, sitting behind homeplate.

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Yup. They gave away these abnormally large fridge magnets that had the J's schedule on them - they flew like you wouldn't believe! I still can't get over how completely insane the crowd was.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

okay, so apparently mlb extra inning is doing a free weekend or somesuch and b/w watching the o's whup the yankees, i watched bits and pieces of bos-tor, cle-det, tb-oak & others. my question: what's w/ all the funky eyewear pitchers are sporting these days? league looked like he'd been plucked off the world series of poker or something.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Thermo you bastard, Ortiz hit a three run shot off Halladay today. You'd better not cost me the W.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Never mind, they tied it up in the 7th. No W for me.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Hey hey, back to #1!

I kind of had a laugh after our conversation today I come home to see the stellar performance of you starters!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I've got just two words for you: Steve Reed.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Touché!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

*ahem*
12 :: The Asterix Hats :: 265.5 :: -4.5
13 :: Zito-Bonds Namesakes :: 261 :: -41.5

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

AND IT'S YOUR FAULT! My team ERA nearly doubled yesterday thanks to Ortiz and Suppan.

My SP's are still a bit of a concern (relievers have been excellent) but half of my hitters haven't really picked it up yet. I'm not too concerned though -- Mike Lowell and Jose Vidro aren't going to hit .200 this season.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

AL RBI leaders:


1. H. Matsui, NYY	        8
2. G. Motherfucking Zaun, Tor	8
3. J. Cantu, TB	                6
4. D. Young, Det	        6
5. P. Konerko, CWS	        6

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Again with the fucking bullpen ... but they pulled it out in the 9th. I can't take an entire season of this.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Crazy - Greg Zaun and i have the same middle name.

A friend of mine showed up this morning with tickets for the game. And what a game it was! Quite the 9th inning but the end result is we're alone at #1. Plus Lilly and Walker pitched well so I'd say today wasn't total bad news from the bullpen.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't have guessed that the title of this thread would still be correct after a week of play. It should be interesting to see how they do on the upcoming 9 game road trip.

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Who are they playing?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

3 in Oakland, 4 in Texas, 2 in Boston. Then they get the Yankees for a couple in Toronto...

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

Everytime I see Greg Zaun's name I think of Superman II, his knickname should be "General Zod".

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 11 April 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030116/18120__nationalbo_l.jpg

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 11 April 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

Another game, another 10 runs, another win, another day in first place for the 2005 Toronto Blue Jays.

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Yes. Let us revel in it while we can!
*revels*

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Still in first place, WITH THE BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL!!

Hinske is hitting out of his mind.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

Dude's gonna fall on his keister if he doesn't improve his walk rate, tho.

Hinske & Zaun are (or were) 1-2 in RBIs. God bless April baseball.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

Indeed, that's but one reason why he is OUT OF HIS MIND.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

I really hope he's not taking plate discipline pointers from the Shea Hey kid. Back when Shea was a bigot w/ the Red Sox, there was a 2-month period where he was working counts, taking walks, and KILLING the ball whenever it got near his wheelhouse. And then he did what he usually does - swing swing swing, make contact wahey, ground into a good number of DPs but mitigate that w/ some 9th inning heroics against sub-standard relievers (or Mariano) and end up w/ a sexxy .280 AVG and a .310 OBP to abet those 70-80 RBIs. Founding Member of the John Kruk Clutch Hitter Brigade! Still not upset he was flipped for the Break Heart Kid. Say Hey!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Hinske/Zaun 2005 = Wells/Delgado 2003! ha ha!

I'm shocked at how well Hinske is doing. I'm wondering if he's back in his ROY form or if he's going to settle back into his more recent .240 caliber hitting.

xpost bigot?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

After he was traded from Boston, he made some gay-bashing comment on a talk-radio show. I forget if it was directed at the team, or just the general demographic he was slagging off, & I don't remember the actual word choice, but, yeah, wahey.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

He must have mixed feelings about being up here if that's the case!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Hinske & Zaun are (or were) 1-2 in RBIs.

Still are.

More fun April baseball facts:
Batista leads the league in saves
Jays are first in MLB in runs scored
... but only 13th in OBP.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

also, our magic number is down to 155

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

woot!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Have you guys ordered your playoff tickets yet?

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6171.jpg

Age: 31
Height: 6-0
Weight: 190 lbs.
Bats: Left
Throws: Left
Pos: SP
Born: October 2, 1973, Long Branch, NJ
Full Name: Scott David Schoeneweis
College: Duke | Others
Experience: 6 years
2005 Salary: $2,500,000
Pronounced: OH FUCK NO

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

If he was right-handed, he'd be in St. Paul.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

So would one-third of MLB LHP's.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Stay tuned for next week's episode:

PORTSIDERS BLINDSIDED!

TERRY MULLHOLLAND, YOUR FIFTEEN MINTUES WERE UP A HALF HOUR AGO!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

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Yeah, you don't jeopardize an ace's career for that obv. Same reason Bonds should sit til '06.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

greg zaun, just know that i love you.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 13 August 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

you too, alex rios.

you too.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 13 August 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Jays playoff chances are more than 5%, because BP projects based on actual W-L records instead of Pythagorean W-L records. Yes, they have to make up "actual" games in the standings to make the playoffs, but their excellent Pyth record indicates that they're more likely to get hot and go on a run than their actual W-L record would suggest (and they're still doing all this without Halladay).

But yeah, you don't jeopardize the arm of one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the organization no matter what.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 13 August 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

thanks to tonight's win, they're 5 games above .500 for the first time all season.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 13 August 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

Okay, now I'll be the prudent one: 12-0 to baltimore and then lost 0-1 to them?! how are we supposed to expect to...well, you get the picture.

― a Side-walkin' Street Wheeler (aaron ef.), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Halladay is still first in VORP among AL pitchers -- by a fair margin. Give him the Cy!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 15 August 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

2-1 Angels in the fifth, and the Jays intentionally walked Vlad with runners on first and second with two out. Molina flew out with the bases juiced to end the inning. Ballsy move.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone been tracking Molina's job of protecting Vlad (because from what I've seen it ain't working)?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

Molina in the #5 slot: 333 / 386 / 538 (in 78 ABs) w/ 4 HR, 4 2B

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

The Jays are putting together an entire "Plays of the Week" reel in one night.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 18 August 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

four games back! geeze.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Earth to Blue Jays: YOU'RE FACING AL FUCKING LEITER. AGAIN. WHY ARE YOU HIS BITCHES??

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Fuck the Jays. The dream is over. They let Al Leiter hang around until the eighth, let the Yankees back into the game again and again, and Batista (who has sucked over the past month or so) blew the lead in the ninth. Watching him walk the #9 hitter, fall behind Jeter 2-0 only to be forced to give him a free pass as well, and finally get ahead of a batter (Felix Escalona? WHO????) 0-2 before giving up the game winning hit.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Ha haha! BArry.. "the dream"? Ha haaha.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

It looks like I never finished my sentence. Watching Batista [perform his catalogue of crap] was pure pain, baseball-style. Batista = spunkmonkey.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Yuck, that was ugly. Even tho I pegged the Jays for 80 wins and the Yanks for the wildcard, I'm sorry to see things tipping in that direction

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Well that was quite the inning. Feeling better yet, barry?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. But Batista is still on my shitlist.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

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― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 27 August 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

well, there goes that comeback player of the year award.

― maura (maura), Saturday, 27 August 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

btw...just on names alone, anybody else get kick out of the chacon v. chacin matchup the other night?

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Saturday, 27 August 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

I did actually!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 28 August 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Oh what the hell, why did he leave Towers in to face Ortiz with the score 3-3 in the eighth? I know they're not playing for anything, and Towers had only thrown 95 pitches, but it was the obvious move to make. Pat Tabler is on TV saying "it was definitely right to leave him in there -- you have to give Towers the chance to win the game". FCUK THAT macho bullshit, teams win games. Make the bleeping move to the bullpen.

btw...just on names alone, anybody else get kick out of the chacon v. chacin matchup the other night?

Rematch this Saturday!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 September 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

What Ortiz did to the J's this series was downright malicious.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 September 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

in the three game series: 4 HR, 7RBI

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 September 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, with two of those homers being late-inning game winners. Still, the Jays are 9-5 vs Boston so far this year -- a massive improvement over their 2-35 record from last year, or something to that effect.

We should try to catch one more game together before the end of the season. Just NYY, SEA, and KC series left to go!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 September 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

Sounds good. i was going to go see NY but people be changin plans.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 September 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

Say it with me:

SCREW YOU, YES YOU, MIGUEL BATISTA.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=250919114

Walking Ibanez to get to Sexson was dumbassery on Gibbons' part, but Batista certainly did his part.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

What is the record for strikeouts in one day?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

In one game or in a doubleheader?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

In one day.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Good luck finding the stats for that. I can't even find most strikeouts in one game.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

The record for one game is 5 (and it's a long list).

Shea Hillenbrand has 6 today in 7 ABs.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

Nevermind it's 7 in a doubleheader and it's been done a bunch. http://baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_strike1.shtml scroll down to game records.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Wow look at that most games without a strikeout streak. That's impressive.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

seven, including four straight in game two! come on shea, you can do it!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

The way this game is going he could get two more ABs! GO SHEA GO!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

Dammit Chad Harville is trying to walk him.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

FUCKING HELL HOW DO YOU WALK A GUY WHO HAS STRUCK OUT SEVEN TIMES IN THE PAST 9(?) AT BATS?!?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

7 Ks, all swinging according to the AP.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Say it with me:

SCREW YOU, YES YOU, MIGUEL BATISTA.

Can I get this printed on a t-shirt?

I hate the Yankees and would prefer that Boston went to the playoffs, but we should have had this one. A 4-1 lead, bases loaded in the fourth with a chance to break the game open, something like 1-11 with runners in scoring position, about a dozen runners left on, BATISTA, etc.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

What the hell happened to this fucker anyways? He was doing so well for so long! And then so terrible!
Did Kotch take up the Witchcraft or something???

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 30 September 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)

now now

A one-out single by Bernie Williams off Scott Schoeneweis was followed by two-out walks to Derek Jeter and Rodriguez, issued by Jason Frasor. Miguel Batista came on and struck out Jason Giambi to keep the Blue Jays on top.

Batista then struck out the side in the ninth to notch his 30th save.

wasnt even a week ago!

of course i've only watched the past few weeks this season and it seems like he's chucked total garbage every other time. plus he's got a 6.06 era with 2 blown so far in my mvp 2005 season, the bum.

― freddie freeloler (freddie freeloler), Friday, 30 September 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

That should be Koch in my last post.

Anyhow here's the monthly breakdown for Batista, you be the judge:
April: 2.70 ERA, .302 BAA, 1 BS, 1-0
May: 0.73 ERA, .098 BAA, 0 BS, 2-0
June: 3.46 ERA, .217 BAA, 0 BS, 1-0
July: 4.20 ERA, .357 BAA, 2 BS, 1-3
Aug: 6.08 ERA, .278 BAA, 2 BS, 0-2
Sept: 7.36 ERA, .295 BAA, 3 BS, 0-3

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Acc to SABR's Bruce Brown, no member of the 1992 WS Champion Toronto Blue Jays will appear in the World Series in 2005, the first time since that championship year that no '92 Jay has been a member of the team in the Fall Classic.

Mike Timlin, John Olerud, David Wells, and Al Leiter were this year's best hopes.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

That's a neat stat. I had no idea.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 October 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

However, one could put asterisks next to '95 & '01:

1992 lots
1993 lots
1994 no Series
1995 Dave Winfield, Indians (last career game October 1)
1996 David Cone, Yankees
1997 Al Leiter, Marlins
1998 David Cone, Yankees
1999 David Cone, Yankees
2000 David Cone, Yankees and Al Leiter, Mets
2001 Todd Stottlemyre, Diamondbacks (missed 2001 season through injury)
2002 Jeff Kent, Giants (Kent was traded from Jays on August 27, 1992)
2003 David Wells, Yankees
2004 Mike Timlin, Red Sox

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Al Leiter was hardly an essential component of the '92 Blue Jays tho.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

"Essential" ain't relevant!

Also the list above was missing these:

1996 Jimmy Key and Dave Weathers, Yankees
1997 Devon White, Marlins
1998 David Wells, Yankees - Greg Myers, Padres
2000 Derek Bell, Mets

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

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