The Scrappy Scrap-Irons (ASTROTHREAD 2005)

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Better late then never, I guess. Post all your Houston Astro questions, comments and observations here.

Of course, you already know the drill.

boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Was there a BOLD PREDICTIONS thread for 2005? Here's mine:

Brad Lidge's ERA will not reach 1.00 all season.


And FYI: Brandon Backe is hitting .600 after tonight's start.

boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

OH yes, Lidge... I clearly remember you and others doubting his relieving prowess last year, mr. bold bury. ;-)

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

I hope you're otm re: Lidge's ERA, if only to hear whether the Gagne-for-Cy folx back Lidge for the award.

mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

OH yes, Lidge... I clearly remember you and others doubting his relieving prowess last year, mr. bold bury. ;-)

I don't think I ever doubted Lidge, I was just in favor of giving Dotel more time as closer before passing judgement on his ability to do that job.

I will admit that Lidge far exceeded any expectations I had of him going into last year. I thought he would be good, but not the filthy, durable reliever he was down the stretch and in the playoffs last year.

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

When does Twinkyman come off the DL?

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

When does Twinkyman come off the DL?

Latest I've heard is 10 days to 2 weeks.

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 21 April 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

I should have learned my lesson last year when I said Richard (or "Big Dick" as he is now known on Dallas sports talk radio) Hidalgo would hit .400 and he promptly went into a tailspin that ended up getting him traded.

After giving up a home run in a third of an inning tonight (which I was on hand to witness), Brad Lidge's ERA stands at 1.04.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

Clemens continues to show his age, throwing 7 scoreless innings but another no decision today.

Mulder has pitched 10 innings so far on 101 pitches.

mattbot (mattbot), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

My God, Kruk said the obvious (but accurate) on BBTN: dump Bags & Biggio.

WORLD ENDS

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

After this weekend's series victory over the Cubs, I feel the need to spout off a little, so here are my End-of-April Observations:

The general perception on local talk radio and fan message boards is the Astros are off to a poor start and just don't have the offensive firepower to compete with the Cardinals for the division. But after this weekend, it is apparent to me that this is only true on the road. Allow me to go Rob Neyer on your ass and insert some stats in the middle of a paragraph

G W L RS RA
Home 12 9 3 56 38
Road 11 1 10 37 45

Now, consider that 5 of the 10 road losses were of the one-run variety. It seems to me that the Astros have suffered a disproportionate amount of bad luck so far, especially in their three, count 'em THREE, 1-0 extra-inning losses.

The upshoot of all this is the overwhelming assumption that if the Astros don't turn things around quickly that Roger Clemens is going to demand a trade. Fueling this is the mind-bending coincidence that all three of the aforementioned 1-0 extra-inning losses occured in games that Clemens started. I think at this point it's ridiculous that Clemens would want to finish the season any place other than Houston. After play today, the Astros are 5 games back of the Cardinals. Fans seem to forget that the team was even further out of the Wild Card in late August last year. Why do they think Roger would throw in the towel on the season already after what happened last year?

I'm not saying that I think the Astros are definitely going to win the NL Central this year, but I think their going to be in, at least for the WC, till the end. If that's true, then the Rocket is going nowhere. I guess my point is: it's a long damn season and we're just barely started, so calm the fuck down, Astro fans.

Anyway, just wanted to do a little bragging about the weekend series:

Rookie centerfielder Willie Taveras threw out a runner at the plate in each of the three games.

Astros laid seven runs on Mark Prior in the fifth inning today, all coming after two out, the first four coming on a Mike Lamb grand slam on an 0-2 pitch.

Astros beat Prior and Wood on back-to-back days (granted, Wood did leave the game with an injury). I wonder how many teams will do that this year.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 2 May 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

Crap, my little stat matrix came out all screwy. Lets try it this way:


Home: 9 wins, 3 losses, 56 RS, 38 RA
Road: 1 win, 10 losses, 37 RS, 45 RA

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 2 May 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and word is that Lance Berkman will be back this weekend for the series in Atlanta!

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 2 May 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Kerry Wood left the game with an injury? After his last start was cut short due to shoulder concerns? GET MORE HOLY WATER DUSTER!

bb - who's going to get the short end of the stick when Berkman returns?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 2 May 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

who's going to get the short end of the stick when Berkman returns?

Well, the easy answer is that Luke Scott will get sent down, which is fine because he's been completely overmatched by major league pitching after having a phenomenal spring. He's got nothing to be ashamed of though, considering he jumped from Double-A to the Majors, so he's better off getting ABs every day in Triple-A.

The tougher question is who is going to sit when Berkman returns. Scott got benched about two weeks ago and in recent days Mike Lamb has been filling the left field slot. Lamb really sparked the offense over the weekend (8 of his 11 hits this year are for extra-bases!). So when Berkman returns, one likely scenario is that Lamb will move back to third and platoon with Morgan Ensberg. That leaves an outfield alignment of Berkman-Taveras-Lane, which should be strong offensive unit.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 2 May 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh man - if I were Ensberg, I'd hire Jeff Gilooly to whack Lamb behind the knees. Or give him a stern talking to.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I can only go by the highlights, but Taveras definitely killed the Cubs with his arm this weekend. I don't know if that is Wendell Kim not knowing when to say woah or that Taveras has a pretty good arm. The throws were on the money, I will say that. Taveras also has some wheels and might be the Stros best best stealing threat since the Dome days.

Why do the Stros even play Ensberg? He doesn't hit for average, he doesn't hit for power and I have never heard about him being a phenom in the field. SS, 3b and C have been black holes in the Astros lineup for a few years.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

I [...] know [...] that is [the fault of] Wendell Kim not knowing when to say woah

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Chris Speier is the Cubs' third base coach this year.


http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/coaches.jsp?c_id=chc

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

The Astros flat out stunk this weekend against the Bravos. Did not have a lead at all in the three game sweep.

I still haven't seen the Cubs play this year, which is pretty sad considering it is nearly mid May.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 9 May 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

Correction: FOUR game sweep.

This is getting comical. They are 1-14 on the road so far.

And they did score two runs in the top of the first in Thursdays game, only to see a three-run Adam LaRoche homer in the bottom of the 1st immediately erase that lead.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 9 May 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

Uh-oh. We may have seen the last of the Bagwell Era. He went on the 15-day DL today after sitting out the last 5 games. I was really hoping to see get to 500 home runs, but at the rate he was going, it was looking unlikely that he would get there before his contract runs out at the end of next season. Hopefully he'll make it back from this and have the opportunity to retire of his own decision. Either way, it's been great to watch him play these past 15 years.

Coincidentally, this has happened right when Berkman came off the DL, which means he can take over the first base job (he played there in college), which should be easier on his surgically repaired knee than the outfield would be.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20050510&content_id=1044979&vkey=pr_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

I pretty much hate Roger Clemens but this quote is good:

“When I'm running, it looks like first base is running from me.”

-- Houston Astros pitcher Roger Clemens, on the joys of hitting.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Brad Lidge's ERA will not reach 1.00 all season.

Well it's nearly 4x that right now... Tonight's performance included 2BBs, 2 Wild Pitches, and a bases loaded single. No strikeouts to be found (believe me, I looked).

Any reports on what's troubling him?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Seems like he just had an off-day... didn't look like he was struggling physically, he just had poor control. Looked like he hadn't warmed up enough or something.

ojitarian (ojitarian), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

Lidge was fuckin BRUTAL. Couldn't find the plate to save his life. So funny to watch good ol scrap iron sit there like a bump on a log watching his big man fling 55 footers to the backstop left and right. Not one person ever came out to talk to Lidge during that Chinese water torture of a half-inning. How many pitches did Lidge throw in the 8th (EIGHTH) anyway? ABout 50?? God that was fuckin brutal. What a mickey mouse organization the Astros are. What a joke ol scrap-iron is. Thanks for nothing Houston.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

hmmm ... box score says 26 in 2/3 for Lidge? That can't be right. I swear on Phil Garner's mustache that Lidge threw at least 40.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

2 WP, 2 walks, and a single in only 26 pitches? Egads. I'm thinking the Cubs screwed the pooch in not capitalizing on Lidge's nuttiness, but, then, it's the Astros, so a one-run lead is as good as a ten-run lead. [/McCarver]

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

[i]I'm thinking the Cubs screwed the pooch in not capitalizing on Lidge's nuttiness[/i]
Maybe he was so nutty he confused them?

Only pooch-screwing I remember is a fastball hung over the plate that D-Lee should have crushed, but he got underneath it and ended up fouling it off.

ojitarian (ojitarian), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, Lidge was doing fine until he had a bad case of flu or pneumonia or something that was going around the club house. When he got back he had a couple of rocky outings, then the Astros didn't win any games for a while, so there were no save situations. He's barely been pitching twice a week lately, so his workload is very sporadic. I don't know if that's really the reason, but it's true that he just hasn't been very sharp for about the last month or so now.

But what does it fucking matter. That Astros are an out away from getting shut out for the eighth fucking time this season.

Oh wait, it's over now. Shit.

boldbury (boldbury), Saturday, 28 May 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

Clemens vs Mulder ... and it's 5-3 Houston in the first inning!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

The scheduled matchup for Wednesday night in NY: Roy-O v. Pedro

boldbury (boldbury), Sunday, 5 June 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Correction, that is Tuesday night's matchup.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

and that is the night morbs and i are going to shea.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

plunk biggio

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

ha ha, I like the per capita stats.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

As I said to Stenc, the context of that lineup almost makes Ausmus look acceptably productive.

Seeya in late July, Oswalt!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Hey, now! Ensberg's one of the top 3 3Bers right now!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

That's right, and he's a UohH Archinerd as well!

I got in my car this morning and the local sports-talk station was doing a flash that went something like this:

Mets beat the Astros 3-1 last night with Pedro Martinez holding the Astros to only 2 hits. Here's Pedro talking about what it's like to throw a complete game in front of the home crowd: "All your wildest dreams will come true."

Yes, the quote from Pedro was the actual soundbite from Napolean Dynamite.

boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Alright, the Scrappin' Astros are currently 7 games out of the Wild Card, which is right about what they were last year at the start of August and the word around town is that they are looking to be buyers, not sellers, on the trade market this year and the big name being floated around is local boy Adam Dunn.

I know that sounds crazy to everybody, but with the pitching they've been getting, one more bat just might be enough to make this team a contender, especially since Berkman looks to be rounding back into form after his knee surgery.

I keep reading in the national media that the Astros should trade pitching for some young prospects. So far I seen the names of Roger Clemens, Roy Oswalt, Brandon Backe, Andy Pettitte, and Brad Lidge all come up in trade rumors. Now my question is, since when was trading away pitching for hitting a good strategy for rebuilding a team? To me, the best thing for the organization to do now is keep the pitching staff together, let the young hitters they have play this season, then add a big bat via free agency in the off season. As bad as the offense has been this season, I don't think they are too far off from being a competitive club. The pitching staff is already in place and that's usually the hardest part of a club to assemble.

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

If the org. is trading away old pitching (cf. Clemens & Pettite), then it makes a whole helluva lot of sense.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

i agree w/ mr. r, but have heard oswalt's name come up several times in o's broadcasts this week.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 23 June 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

If the Stros trade R-Os, then there is no hope for anyone anywhere ever.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

It would make sense to deal Clemens to either the Red Sox or Yanks, but do either of those teams have much to deal?

I can't see Dunn or Oswalt leaving anytime soon, but who knows.

The Astros should try and get Austin Kearns away from the Reds for a prospect. He is down at AAA to get his swing back and the fact that with the Griff healthy and the rise of Wily Mo there isn't a place for him to play.

Until the past three or four games, Jason Lane had been coming around at the plate.


Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

actually, i'd love to see the o's take a shot at kearns, too...christ, if the crow can't help him get his swing back, he's doomed!

red sox have stuff to deal the yanks are fools if they deal anything they have worth dealing at, this point.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

wang's star is probably about as bright as it'll ever be if his k-rate doesn't crack 4.5/9ip soon. i hope they can move him for something substantial w/out touching any "key" prospects ("" cuz outside of hughes (who's injured!) and maybe a couple pithcers in A ball i've become completely disenchanted w/ the farm) i'd be more than pleased.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Ha - tell Sterling and WALD-MAN that. They're charter members of the Mulch Brown & Wright And Keep Weng Fanclub.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

oh jesus, grind every last one of em to dust.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Well, to give them some credit, they're half-right.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Joe Sheehan said on Prospectus he thinks Oswalt is clearly a better pitcher than Dontrelle (I'm not sure I agree, but he's certainly not sharing the media spotlight for a guy who's close to Willis' level).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I meant: that Ensberg *story* is pretty amazing (although what I originally wrote is also accurate).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Every team in the NL East has a better record than the NL Central 2nd place Astros.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Every team at or above .500 has a better record than the 2nd place Astros.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Astros reach .500 tonight! I'm gonna be there. And tomorrow night as well.

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Are the Astros going to try and pick up another outfielder?

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

http://i.tsn.com/i/baseball/confidential/derek_bell_ap.jpg

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

OK, I've just been to three games in four days. Not too bad. Start off with a 7-5 loss to the Padres in which the Astros hit three solo bombs and a ton of at'em balls. Next was a 3-2 win with Morgan Ensberg driving in the winning run in the 9th with a long double to right center. Today, it was Brad Ausmus with the game winning hit in the 8th.

And for some reason, I'm not allowed to stand while Brad Lidge warms up for the 9th. Some jerk-ass usher told me to sit down.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 11 July 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

I would have given him a piece of my mind, and then asked for his superior. How much were your tix? That's fucked!

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I told him what I thought of it, but he just gave me a smug smile and nod from the bottom of the section where he was waving for me to sit.

They were $10 tix, about midway up the upper deck in left field.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 11 July 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Hey boldbury, are CHC-HOU games hopelessly sold out?

mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Not even close. I checked all three games 15-17 Aug.

Are you in DFW now? Come on down, we'll go to a game.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Yep -- I was at the game where Kenny punched the water cooler! The 15th-17th is right before I take off again, but I'd like to try and get down there.

mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Well, even if it's not for a Cubs game, you should come down to see the ballpark.

Speaking of which, how do you like the one in Arlington?

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

Biggio and Berkman go back-to-back twice tonight, in the first two times through the order. I wonder if that has ever happened before. Paging Jayson Stark...

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

Gammons' delusions might be right!

gear (gear), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

The weird thing is, the general opinion in town is to go for the Wild Card without making any trades. The young guys are playing so well right now that nobody wants to see the team give up on them. Like, let's roll with what we've got and if we don't make, we're in good shape for next year.

One name that has been popping up has been Matt Lawton. He could probably be had for something less than a top-line prospect and would provide some pop in left field. Chris Burke has been really good in that slot lately, but just hasn't shown any power yet.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Well, Carlos Beltran was in town tonight and I made it out to the ballpark to boo him loudly with 43,000 of my best friends. He got booed heavily before and during every at-bat and every time a fly ball flew out in his direction (he finished 0-for-4, only reaching on an error).

The crowd was the fourth largest in MMP history, and it was completely into the game. This might have been the most intense game I've ever been to outside of playoff games. And for good reason: with a win tonight the Astros moved into a tie for the Wild-Card lead. That's right non-believers, the team that was 15-30 in May is now 55-47. And they're getting big contributions throughout the roster. Tonight it was Brad Ausmus with a squeeze bunt in the 7th to tie it and a drive in the right-center gap to drive in the game-winner in the 9th. Also, Ezequiel Astacio and his 8+ ERA get called back from AAA to face Pedro and he goes six innings, giving up four hits and one run.

Go 'Stros!!!

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 29 July 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

Hatas!

They'll go all the way if they get more calls like that Cameron "drop" gift, what bullshit.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

That didn't lead to any runs anyway.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
One scout says he has stopped timing Astros CF Willy Taveras when he runs from home to first base, noting that Taveras consistently hits 3.9 seconds from the righthanded batter's box. That matches Mariners RF Ichiro Suzuki's time from the left side.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 22 August 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Where did you get that from?

Speaking of Willy T, the following if from a Baseball Prospectus article about the Astros that used quite a bit of cyber-ink to tell us something we all knew already: The Astros aren't as good offensively this year as they were last. What I didn't understand was that pointed at Willy as one of the prime suspects.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4326


SportsTicker recently fronted the ESPN.com Houston Astros page with a note pointing out that CF Willy Taveras was leading all ML rookies in hits, batting average, games, singles, infield hits, bunt singles, and steals. It sounds nice, but a closer look shows that Taveras' style leaves a lot to be desired. He's a below average hitter (-0.049 MLVr), a below average hitter for his position (-0.023 PMLVr) and barely rates out as better than replacement level. The batting average is nice, and much attention should be paid to his superior defense, but the lack of power, the mediocre on-base percentage for a top of the lineup hitter, and the 74/17 SO to BB ratio all raise serious questions about his future potential. Put a simpler way: for all of the accomplishments that SportsTicker heralds, Taveras has about half the VORP of Clint Barmes in nearly twice the plate appearances.


While Astros fans all wish Willy would walk a little (ok, maybe even a lot) more, this assessment seems fairly harsh considering the guy his hitting around .300 and is top 5 in the league in stolen bases, as a rookie. Especially when you consider his value at the minimum salary compared with the numbers the guy he replaced in center is putting up with his new contract.

Also, Willy does not play "superior defense". He gets to a lot of balls on pure speed, but does not read balls well at all. On several occasions this year, ball have gotten over his head or past him because of bad jumps or turning the wrong way. His defensive stats may look good, but he does get replaced late in games sometimes by Eric Bruntlett. Makes me wonder if this writer has even watched the Astros play this year.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 22 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

"below average hitter" = slugging under .370!!!

And I imagine his defensive stats are sexed up because of the pure speed you mention. And given his age, he could probably be taught how to better read balls off the bat and become that much more valuable in the field.

Hey, it's the new Juan Pierre!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

I think the very low slugging % can be attributed to the many swinging bunts/routine grounders the guy beats out. That's a ball that is an out for most batters that turns into a one-base hit for Willy. (Hmm, this really ties in with gygax's speed/OBP thread.) Even if you take those out, I'm sure his slg% is still below average, but his extreme percentage of infield hits (almost 40% of his total hits were of that variety the last time I calculated it) really accentuates it.

And honestly, for what the Astros want him to do (get on base, occupy pitchers' attention, steal bases) the slg% is not so much of a detriment. It does come into play when bottom-of-the-order guys get on base and Willy has to drive them in. Early in the season he was atrocious in these situations, but has come through a few times lately.

Concerning, the Prospectus paragragh I posted above, this may be a case where the writer sees the current favorite for NL ROY is not very highly rated according to VoRP, so he tries to make a case against him because he know that most voters consider VoRP to be a SABR-clique Voo-doo number.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

the point is it's the emptiest batting average this side of tony womack. he DOESN'T get on base at a high rate, in fact, it's below average, which is the last thing you want in a leadoff hitter. and despite his speed and steals, he isn't swiping at a high rate, and since he has trouble punching the ball thru the infield, he doesn't drive in many runs.

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

What John said. Bunt hits are bunt hits, and pop ups are pop ups. And one base is one base is one base. If you are any sort of hitter, you should GET a base more often than you get ON base, no matter what kind of hitter you are (unless you're Tony Womack or Brad Ausmus). Also, 56-for-89 in stolen bases = 62%, which is ungh.

As for the defense issue: I think BP (and most statheads) are upfront about the unreliability of fielding statistics, and the discrepancy between the empirical evidence and statistical evidence boldbury points out re: Willy T is probably more evidence of this.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

The fact that Willy T has been a high-quality player in my 5x5 league (because of his SBs and AVG) makes me cry at night. F'real.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Who is 56-for-89 in stolen bases?

Willy is 31-for-42. 74%

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

That Taveras is Kruk's candidate for Rookie of the Year speaks volumes.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh wow you're right. I have no idea where I got those numbers from.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

The 'Stros were shut out again with Clemens on the mound. That makes eight times Houston has been held scoreless when he starts. That is the most hardluck shutout starts against for one starting pitcher since Randy Jones for the Padres in 72, who also had eight.

Nolan Ryan also had a hard luck season with Houston that reminds me to what Clemens is going through this year. Check out Ryan's stats for 1987, where he led the NL in ERA, SO to Walks, Hits Allowed per 9 IP and K's and yet finished 8-16.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 29 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I was at the game yesterday but didnt catch much of Clemens pitching because it was insufferably hot out there. I hid in the stadium club and watched the 50's style telecast on a plasma tv until the 7th, and at that point he was already pulled.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Monday, 29 August 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

And five of those eight shutouts were 1-0 games. It's just completely frustrating and baffling to Astro fans.


And congratulations to Earl for being the 100th poster in this thread!

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Will Carroll on Prospectus:


Jeff Bagwell starts his rehab at Double-A Corpus Christi on Tuesday. He'll be activated over the weekend and will serve as an extra bat. Brandon Backe, who will make two starts, will join him there. Good times at Whataburger Field.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Whataburger Field?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

They don't have Whataburger where you're at? Where are you anyway?

Whataburger is a fast food chain that started in Corpus Christi back in the '50s. Their breakfast taquitos are the shiznit.

http://www.whataburger.com/

boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Whatanamefora Field!

Nope - never seen a Whateverburger in Ontario. We also don't have Whitecastle, Jack In the Box or Big Boy.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

No Whitecastle or Big Boy in Texas either. Dallas has Steak 'n' Shake, but Houston doesn't. Steak 'n' Shake.... meh.

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 1 September 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

And some other Texas minor league park names:

Round Rock Express (Houston AAA): Dell Diamand
Frisco Rough Riders (Texas AA): Dr. Pepper/7-Up Ballpark

And the Dallas MLS team just built a new stadium in Frisco: Pizza Hut Stadium.

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 1 September 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

I went to Dr.Pepper/7-up Ballpark before it had that name.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 1 September 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

What was it before?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 September 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
'Stros jump out 2-0 vs Zach Duke. The NL may get boring very quickly now. Oh well, there are worse playoff TV fates than looking at the splendid booties of Oswalt and Lidge.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Woo-hoo! I haven't been posting in this thread for fear of jinxing the team, but now it's final. Thirty-one game turnaround since mid-May All you haters better believe!

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 3 October 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

I believe in hate!

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 3 October 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

And if you caught the Fox Sports Net post game interview, you heard Brad Lidge drop an F-bomb!

"...the offense came through, which was fucki..frickin' huge."

http://users4.ev1.net/~mamolina/astros/LOLidge.avi

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 3 October 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

I went to Dr.Pepper/7-up Ballpark before it had that name.

-- gygax! (gygax0...), August 31st, 2005 9:53 PM. (gygax!) (admin) (userip)

What was it before?

-- Thermo Thinwall (tupac.chopr...), September 1st, 2005 1:14 AM. (Thermo Thinwall)

I think I need boldbury's help on this one... uh... Frisco Stadium?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 October 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

I actually don't remember it having any name before Dr. Pepper/7-Up.

Sorry.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

Gammons said on BBTN that the Astros are now gearing up as 'buyers' for a wildcard shot. Utter delusion.
-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), June 30th, 2005 6:43 AM.

you're right! they didn't make any big moves!

gear (gear), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

And if you caught the Fox Sports Net post game interview, you heard Brad Lidge drop an F-bomb!
Do my ears deceive me, or did the guy interviewing him call him "Brad Ausmus"???

ojitarian (ojitarian), Monday, 3 October 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

the champagne was already flowing, I guess.

patita (patita), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Hey, like LaGuardia, when I'm wrong it's a keeper. I had lotsa company at the end of June.

When the series gets to Houston, I hope Poppy and Bar's driver takes them to the Astrodome.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)


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