LAA - NYY 2005 ALDS Thread

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Fucking hell, are we going to see Yankees v Red Sox in the ALCS AGAIN????

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 2 October 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Aww, Barry, you know that's what God wants.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)


{*snort}

simian (dymaxia), Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Yanks over Angels in 5.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Sunday, 2 October 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Yanqs in 5.

gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 2 October 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Angels in 4.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 2 October 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Yanks in 5

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 2 October 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Angels in 4.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I predict I will continue to not understand the Yankee's success in 5.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

oh god please angels in 5

gear (gear), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

I predict I will continue to not understand the Yankee's success in 5

Tell me about it ... just about every starter the Yankees can throw out is a mismatch against the Angels ... Angels have a better bullpen ... Game 5 will be in Anaheim ... but I'm still picking Yanks in 5. It just feels right (that's right as in "correct", not right as in "just").

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 October 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

Angels in 5.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 3 October 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

The Yank's success is just like the Red Sox, their hitting just rips some pitching staffs to shreds.

The Angels bullpen is still pretty good, but not as good as last year or 2002. LA of A has better starting pitching than last year or 2002. The question is which John Lackey and Bartolo Colon show up, as they both can be inconsistent. Sheilds and KRod were used often over this season and both were not as good in the second half of the season as the first.

The Angels hitting is not anywhere near as good as either last year or as 2002. Outside of Vlad, there is not another scary power hitter in the LA of A lineup. Chone Figgins is going to have to get on base and they are going to have to make NY pay for pitching around Vlad.

The question for NY is when will Small and Chacon turn back into pumpkins. Mussina got rocked three of his last four starts down the stretch. I figure the Unit will be OK, but one or two of the other starters are going to have to step up.

I can't see LA of A outslugging the Yanks in this series or having their pitchers shut them down. I thought the Angels had a good shot at winning it all last year, I don't see it happening this season at all.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 3 October 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

I never thought the Yankees would be in the PO's anyway, so I'll change horses and say NY in 4.

You see, I am the type of kid who trades for all the good players in a video game because he hates losing so much, so I'll be a Yankee booster.

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Angels in 3. (This is more a dream scenario than realistic, but whatever.)

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Asteroid in 1!

mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

There's something scary about the Angels. Earl, I agree with everything you're saying here, but it's not out of the question, at all, for Angels pitching to shut down the Yankees three times. Scot Shields is awesome, and Byrd and Lackey are capable. K-Rod is garbage, unfortunately, and that could be the difference. The biggest prob is obv lack of pop, but if Anderson feels alright it could be enough.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 3 October 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)

Since when does garbage have ERA 2.67, WHIP 1.14, and a 2.31 career postseason ERA.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 3 October 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

xpost:

Wait a sec, K-Rod is "garbage"? Is this NY slang for "awesome"?

2.67 ERA (in the AL), 1.14 WHIP, 12.16 K/9, .184 BAA?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 October 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

It's like bad meaning good.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 3 October 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

Also, Lackey was one of the AL's best pitchers in the second half -- 8-1, with a 2.57 ERA. He also starred in the 2002 playoffs, including a win in Game 7 of the World Series. He's more than capable.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 October 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

Angels in 4.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

The Angels pitching could shut down the Yanks, but after last year, I just cannot pick them to win. The Angels have a bit better starting pitching, mostly Colon turning it around and with Lackey improving, but their hitting is not quite as potent.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Game 2 of a Yankee series is actually going to start at 10 PM EASTERN??? What law of God and Fox has been overturned?!?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

IF the Angels fielded their best lineup - and that's a pretty big if - they could possibly hold their own against Los Yanqs. Of course, that'd mean benching Finley & OC (moving Punter to CF, playing Chone @ SS, playing Kotchmann @ 1B), and having Figgins & Kennedy hit 1-2. Hell, they'd also be better off losing Garrett "Most Overrated Underrated Player" Anderson and sticking Juan "Not A Thief" Rivera in his stead.

As it stands, even if they were optimized to win hitting-wise, Scoscia would probably run them out of innings w/ his shitwit smallballery. With their most common lineup configuration, their millstones will gladly kill rallies that Scoscia's baserunning tactics don't already kill. The team's SB success says anything about ANAHEIM's proclivity to make outs running all over the damn place.

That said, where the Angels lack in the hitting dept., they TROUNCE pitching-wise. A starting 3 of Colon, Lackey, & Byrd trounces the Yankee triumverate of RJ, Mussina, and Insert Outlier Here. And the Angel bullpen pwns the Yankee pen by a sick margin, esp. w/ Kelvim Escobar providing great middle relief, in tandem w/ Pine Tar Boy & the Shields / K-God combo. (Tracer's golden shower on Rodriguez is inexplicable.)

So: IF the Angels learn how to take a pitch, they could turn this series into a slugfest that they might very well win, even if the Angel starters don't show up (& given Colon's starts against NYY this year, that's a possibility). Scoscia better not screw this shit up.

It's a fact because I say so: Colon / Mussina is a slugfest where the Angels end up on top, RJ wins Game 3, but the pitching advantage proves to be the difference, Chacon gets his comeuppance, Bengie Molina gets the Jeter throughout the series, and Mr. Clutch gets credit for hitting a meaningless .250 in the series because he dives a lot. Angels in 4.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

This is totally hilarious:

Yanks angry at Showalter for pulling stars vs. Angels

This is coming from the same Yankees who

-- didn't even win their division outright but were awarded the pennant because of some stupid-ass rule. If MLB wanted home-field advantage + winning the pennant to mean something, then there would have been a playoff.
-- threw in the towel after Cleveland lost

Ya wanna play at home? WIN THE DAMN GAMES IN THE REGULAR SEASON AND EARN THAT SHIT.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I like that Cashman said as much at the end of the story.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Um if any of you had watched K-Rod this year you would know what I'm talking about. He has a knack for melting down. Yeah, WHIP me with statistics all you like, I don't care, the guy has a glass jaw. Just watch the ninth inning this week.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

You mean he's not CLUTCH?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

"He has a knack for melting down."

I know talking about wins and losses is a generally a no no, but the thing about Shields and K-Rod that catches my eye is the losses. Combined they put up W-12 L-16 SV-52. If you add those together you get 80 times they either got the decision or a save, but .20 percent of those times they got credit for a loss. 4 out of 5 is pretty good success rate for a reliever, but it is not mind blowing.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Um if any of you had watched K-Rod this year you would know what I'm talking about. He has a knack for melting down. Yeah, WHIP me with statistics all you like, I don't care, the guy has a glass jaw. Just watch the ninth inning this week.

Please trade him to Padres thx bye.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

tracer, for all the shit (given & taken w/ love, i trust) morbius takes here, he's right more often than not & right now, he's right. k-rod's had a bit of a problem with the free pass this year, including a high-profile 4 BB meltdown against the yanks (which occasion is likely what's lodged itself so firmly in yr brain); but he maintains an excellent strikeout rate and, more pertinent here, has sa ved 45/50 games, a rate comparable to rivera's.

John (jdahlem), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Also, he shut down the Yankees in the playoffs a few years ago. Kinda famous incident.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

i predict that the yanquis lose, but nypd and nyfd are the real winners...shawn chacon, too.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Trust me, I would love to be proven wrong about this!! Of course, the Halos will have to enter the ninth with a lead.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

This thread isn't half as cool as the Boston/Chicago one. Sheesh.

I predict the Yankees, anyway, in 5. And I can vouch for Tracer's trustworthiness on the issue of Yankee hatin'.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Christina Kahrl breaks it down (non-premium):

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4503

"A big difference between the lineups is in their basepath behavior. Fronted by Figgins in the leadoff slot, the Angels led the majors in stolen bases (159, 22 more than the more highly touted Go-Go White Sox) while nabbing them at a nifty 74% clip, good for the ninth-best success rate for a team. The Yankees haven't been all that passive on the bases this year, even with Tony Womack riding pine: Jeter and A-Rod have combined for 35 steals in 46 attempts, but they're the only baserunners Torre takes risks with, and the Angels do an exceptional job controlling the running game. So if there's going to be a basepath commando in the series, odds are, it's going to be an Angel. If Figgins plays as well against the Yankees now as he did during the season (.487/.535/.590), the Angels will be able to create opportunities for themselves and get into that middle relief staff the Yankees almost wish wasn't there at all."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

I mostly agree with that article actually, except that I am pretty confident (though god knows the Yanks have proven me wrong before) that the game 5 will be the Yankees scraping by. They're just really good at dicking-around-until-clutch-then-pulling-shit-together. I dunno WHY the do that, I mean I'd have less bags under my eyes if they didn't.

Definitely a 5 game series though.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Except when Jeter's glove gets all porous like it did the last time the Angels eliminated them.

Will McCarver actually have an orgasm the first time his husband makes a throw from the hole?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of Mr. Clutch - BuckCarver went out of their way to excuse a few misplays during the game as being the result of the extreme shadows over home plate. Which would make sense, except that when Jetes went boom-boom, it was on a reachable ball that he OVERDOVE for.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

That was Saturday's scintillating shellacking of the Red Sox, BTW.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Being really good at doing something doesn't mean you do it every time you're asked to! Like I said, like they haven't let me down before...haha the overdiving thing though, that's pretty funny.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

True dat, but don't tell They What Broadcast The Game For Rupert that, as those two knuckleheads turn a blind eye when Jetes screws the pooch (cf. the final 4 games of last year's ALCS), yet praise his glowing sperm whenever he drives in a run and fistpumps as if those pooch screws didn't happen.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

The overdiving is just another example of Jeter taking any excuse to stick his butt out, like that thing when he thinks the ball is like 1/2 " too far inside. He's like WHOOP here's my butt.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahahahaha ok that's OTM but I mean if you had his ass you'd do it too.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Disappointments: 2001 Phoenix, 2003 Beckett?

Jeter somehow finished 2d among AL SSs in Range Factor this year to Julio Lugo.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Which would make sense, except that when Jetes went boom-boom, it was on a reachable ball that he OVERDOVE for.

I remember that play, and waited for the criticism from Buckcarver ... and they DID say something to the effect that it was a gloveable ball that Jeter felt he should have had. It was more than I was expecting from them, but it wasn't totally ignored as you seem to be implying.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Damn it, MIR, I'm right, they're Satan, and Jetes is a king-sized chump, AND TAHT IS TAHT.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

bartolo colon is like the ugliest mutherfucker on the planet. uglier than shawn kemp.

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

i just realized that i'm rooting for the yanks in this series -- the first time i have EVER wanted them to win. man i hate the angels. (vlad excepted)

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

He was pumping his fist - I don't know what else you could ask the guy. Also, he had a key groundout in Game 4! THAT'S CLUTCH BABY!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, if Torre and/or Cashman goes, Mets outwin the Yanks next year.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

I won't bet against that.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

They won, what, eleven fewer games than the Yankees did this year? A five game swing by each team is easy to visualize.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

teh stage is set for sweet lou to replace the t-t-t-torre. mel said he was as good as gone at the beginning of the year (not in so many words) so good riddance. matsui will bee back because he just wants to play for los yanquis; bernie might come back in a bench capacity, though I doubt he'd want it. who else can they get rid of? tino, I think... womack will probably be bought out...

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Maybe Matt Lawton, but I think Steinbrenner had him greased.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Haha oh noes a millimetre or two "out of teh box" whut a bastard and obv. a clear call! As clear as that 1b safe shortly afterward! Yancey and I are teh stupid!!

Anyway. Yeah MIR is right, the Mets weren't a BAD team last year so it's not exactly a bold claim. I hope they do it, I always like it when those little Mets pull something out of their ass and become big winnas, it makes me grin! The Yankees need to do something that doesn't involve purchasing 90-year-old future hall of famers at ridiculous rates to keep them for two seasons. I mean, if they want to stay tops in the league. They might not. I mean good on them, either way, you go little buckaroos etc.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Who knows, maybe the Yankees learned something this year by spending tens of millions on pitchers that everybody knew would a) decline in performance, b) get injured, or c) both, only to have their season rescued by small potatoes like Small and Chacon.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I sure hope not.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Re: Senor Clutcho, what this guy sez:

Derek Jeter hit a home run Friday with the Yankees down four runs. He hit one last night with the team down three. The one last night was pointed to, by the game broadcasters as well as the ones on "SportsCenter," as evidence of his "clutchness."

Not for nothing, but why is it if Alex Rodriguez hits a solo homer with the Yankees down by a bunch, it's evidence that he's a stat-padding loser, but when Jeter does it, it's clutch?

It's just another example of the double standard in place for the two players. Neither covered themsleves in glory in the series--the statistical difference between the two is those two Jeter home runs, whose value seems to be entirely in who hit them--yet Jeter comes out as Captain Intangible while Rodriguez, whose back is still a bit sore from carrying the team in the '04 Division Series, for which he got no credit, is the choke artist.

It ain't right.

Anyone else notice the venom dripping from Buck's voice as he called A-Rod's DP and noted his failure in the ALDS?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I means this guy.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

That guy being Joe Sheehan...

You got it, Ally! Just like the "millimeters" fair or foul decided the Houston-Atlanta game. (Please only use that unit of measure in Toronto games, however.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I knows who that guy is! I just figured I'd credit him anonymously. (BTW, he's a Yankee fan.)

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

When people tell me things over and over, I believe them. Derek Jeter is clutch, Alex Rodriguez is clutch purse. THERE'S YR DIFFERENCE RIGHT THERE.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I might have made up the Sheffield bit xxxxpost

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Fucking hell, are we going to see Yankees v Red Sox in the ALCS AGAIN????
-- MindInRewind (mbvarkestra197...), October 2nd, 2005 1:24 PM. (Barry Bruner)

No.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

sheehan is less of a yankees fan than i am

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

I really don't think many BP staffers' original "fandom" shows up in their work. Less so than, say, Gammons?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nypost.com/img/animatedc.gif

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Tim Keown in ESPN today, emphasis added by me:

"The Yankees had a chance in the top of the ninth, down two against Frankie Rodriguez. Derek Jeter -- the anti-A-Rod -- led off with a fierce single to left, and up came A-Rod as the tying run. And as he strolled to the plate, I know I'm not the only one who had this crazy thought: Make him bunt. Ridiculous, maybe, but there was absolutely no reason to think he could get the job done. He hit into a double play, effectively ending the Yankees' season.

Jeter had three hits in front of him Sunday night. Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield each had three hits behind him. A-Rod had two hits in five games, both in the Yankees' 11-7 loss in Game 3.

It's a fascinating case study. During the regular season, the man is as consistently spectacular as any player of his generation. But when everybody's watching, A-Rod plays with a self-consciousness that's rare in a great athlete."

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Remember when Barry Bonds was a postseason choker, as evidenced by like 3 at bats?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

You got it, Ally! Just like the "millimeters" fair or foul decided the Houston-Atlanta game

The issue is not whether the rules are the rules, it's just whether those rules are always so zealously enforced, and whether it's perhaps a bit odd that a rarely-invoked rule was invoked at a crucial time in a crucial game, cf. the notorious 'pine tar' game.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

OTM. See also: questionable call safe, the amazing shrinking and expanding strike zone. I mean rules are rules, right? Strike zones are strike zones, right?

I mean, don't get me wrong, the Yankees still woulda lost, I mean I'm not sure what the hell Rodriguez, Sheffield and Matsui were even there for. All I'm saying is that Yancey et al have points about Joe West seeming to have a huge hard on for the Yankees. I think sitting there and pretending that there isn't any questioning his decisions last night is kind of disreputable to your own argument, which, I would assume, should circle around the fact that even if those calls were played differently, Angels more than likely still would've won because their pitching and defense was significantly better than the Yankees were last night.

I was just reading that ESPN piece three minutes ago!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I mean to risk the ire of Morbius at someone acknowledging other sports exist, there's a world of difference between judging whether a field goal is good or bad versus whether or not a player stepped the edge of his foot out of bounds while catching a ball. That foul ball comparison is an identical comparison to the one I just made, basically. I don't think there's a single person in the world who is actually going to argue the Yankees lost because of bad calls, they lost cos $25Million & Friends couldn't do their jobs during this series.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

BBT: Yanks over Angels in 5 = 3 points
gygax!: Yanqs in 5 = 3 points
Rock Hardy: Angels in 4 = 6 points
MIR: Yanks in 5 = 3 points
Alex in SF: Angels in 4 = 6 points
Thermo Thinwall: I predict I will continue to not understand the Yankee's success in 5 = 3 points
gear: oh god please angels in 5 = 10 points
boldbury: Angels in 5 = 10 points
JimmyTM: I never thought the Yankees would be in the PO's anyway, so I'll change horses and say NY in 4 = 0 points
polyphonic: Angels in 3 = 4.5 points
Dr Morbius: Angels in 4 = 6 points

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

that makes up for my prediction of a padres sweep

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

The Cano basepath call will lead many Yankee fans to conspiracy theories about that umpire, it's worth talking about on drive-time radio. But the idea (expressed above by Yanc3dog last night) that any of the other calls at first base were also evidence of the conspiracy is, I think, silly, as the dude was safe and tie goes to the runner. Also, Cano DID hop off second early in the 4th game, and got called for it, and the Yankees still won.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

OK, I finally understand gygax's point system:

Correct team + # of games = 10 pts
Correct team, off by one game = 6 pts
correct team, off by two games = 4.5 pts
correct # of games = 3 pts
all other combos = 0 pts

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

haha, that's the method but how abandoning it in favor of 10 for nailing it, 5 for getting the team.

(that 4.5 is only if you've guessed the right # of games if the series went to 5 games which seems unfair in retrospect).

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Remember this? What happened to "the rules" on this one?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/blauchhead.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember it, but bum calls at the Yankees' expense = fine by me.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Oct 7, 1998. Ball hits Fryman in the back, Knoblauch stands and yells at ump as ball rolls into right field and Fryman rounds the bases unmolested as Knoblauch yells.. Daily News headline: "Blauchead"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Somebody should have molested Fryman as he ran the bases. That would have been a series to truly remember.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

The real question I have is WHY DO SO MUCH OF THE YANKEE'S DYNASTIC HOPES RIDE ON CLOSE CALLS AT FIRST BASE?

Also, Fryman should have been out but Knoblauch was indeed a blauchead.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

he was more concerned with blowing a bubble than catching the ball, too, apparently

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Blowing bubbles, hitting his mom with a throw ... Knobby had quite a late-career skill set.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

He was the Mackey Sasser of his generation!

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

it's a shame, cuz the guy's peak was pretty fantastic, his '96 stats are pretty awesome.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

that was keith olberman's mom, I thought.

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

his 96 stats are at teh metrodome...

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Knoblauch was just doing his best Steve Sax impersonation with those throws. Robbie Alomar also completely flamed out, so there must be something about being a good 2b and signing a big free agent deal in NY.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

metrodome or not, 98 bb, 140 runs, .341 avg is pretty damn good!

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Tim Keown in ESPN today, emphasis added by me:

Here's a pretty satisfying rebuttal:

http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/2005/10/tim-keown-head-case.html

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

The Yanq's (and BoSox's) performance is scientific proof that this form of Moneyball just doesn't work.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Billy Beane's novel Moneyball is filled with lies.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

What form of Moneyball is this?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Nebbish.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

his 96 stats are at teh metrodome...

Wait WTF, it'll take a lot of convincing after this year's Twins season that the Dome is a hitter's park. Jacque Jones hit under .250 there. Morneau hit .201 for fuck's sake!

Back on-topic-ish: I suppose A-Rod can gain solace in the fact that he made off with the Pepsi before Vlad could get it.

disco violence (disco violence), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Cashman's successor needs to get PLAYERS WITOUT DA SELF-CONSHUSSNESS

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

I suppose A-Rod can gain solace in the fact that he made off with the Pepsi before Vlad could get it.

Hahahahahahaha ok classique.

A-Rod's been giving himself some kind of self-beating in the press the past coupla days, to the point where I feel like going up to him and saying "C'mon lil' guy, it'll be ok" and I'm not exactly his biggest fan. The bloggy makes a good point vis a vis Matsui and Sheffield being just as big of "head cases."

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)


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