2005 Internet Baseball Awards

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Because democracy ROCKS! And the BBWAA sucks.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Needs a poll tax, tho.

I bet Jason Bay finishes in the top 6 MVP here.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

All right, here we go:

AL MVP
Player/Rank
Alex Rodriguez 1
Manny Ramirez 2
Gary Sheffield 3
Mark Teixeira 4
David Ortiz 5
Vladimir Guerrero 6
Travis Hafner 7
Brian Roberts 8
Michael Young 9
Hideki Matsui 10

AL Cy Young
Player/Rank
Johan Santana 1
Mark Buehrle 2
Jon Garland 3
Bartolo Colon 4
Mariano Rivera 5

AL ROY
Player/Rank
Joe Blanton 1
Huston Street 2
Gustavo Chacin 3

AL MgrOY
Mgr/Rank
Ken Macha 1
Eric Wedge 2
Ozzie Guillen 3

NL MVP
Player/Rank
Albert Pujols 1
Derrek Lee 2
Jason Bay 3
Brian Giles 4
Carlos Delgado 5
Miguel Cabrera 6
Jeff Kent 7
Morgan Ensberg 8
David Wright 9
Barry Bonds 10

NL Cy Young
Player/Rank
Roger Clemens 1
Chris Carpenter 2
Dontrelle Willis 3
Andy Pettitte 4
Roy Oswalt 5

NL ROY
Player/Rank
Jeff Francoeur 1
Zach Duke 2
Ryan Howard 3

NL MgrOY
Mgr/Rank
Bobby Cox 1
Phil Garner 2
Ned Yost 3

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

No real objections, mine will be similar. I'd probably reverse the NL Rookies order. The Bonds thing is cute (and defensible).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

My ballot. I did no research whatsoever, so I could probably be convinced to move a few of these up or down:

AL MVP
Alex Rodriguez 1
David Ortiz 2
Manny Ramirez 3
Vladimir Guerrero 4
Travis Hafner 5
Johan Santana 6
Gary Sheffield 7
Alfonso Soriano 8
Mike Young 9
Grady Sizemore 10

AL CY
Johan Santana 1
Mark Buehrle 2
Bartolo Colon 3
Kevin Millwood 4
Mariano Rivera 5

AL ROY
Gustavo Chacin 1
Joe Blanton 2
Huston Street 3

AL MOY
Eric Wedge 1
Ken Macha 2
Terry Francona 3

NL MVP
Albert Pujols 1
Derrek Lee 2
Andruw Jones 3
Roger Clemens 4
David Wright 5
Miguel Cabrera 6
Brian Giles 7
Carlos Delgado 8
Jason Bay 9
Cliff Floyd 10

NL CY
Roger Clemens 1
Dontrelle Willis 2
Chris Carpenter 3
Andy Pettitte 4
Pedro Martinez 5

NL ROY
Ryan Howard 1
Jeff Francoeur 2
Rickie Weeks 3

NL MOY
Bobby Cox 1
Phil Garner 2
Ned Yost 3

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Holy Shit! I forgot about Andruw!

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Don't worry, you just balanced out the folks who have him too high!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

AL MVP

Alex Rodriguez
David Ortiz
Travis Hafner
Manny Ramirez
Mike Young
Vladimir Guerrero
Johan Santana
Mark Teixeira
Victor Martinez
Richie Sexson

AL Cy Young

Johan Santana
Roy Halladay
Bartolo Colon
Kevin Millwood
Mariano Rivera

There is NOBODY to vote for here, so I figured I'd have a bit of fun and put Halladay second (he was third in VORP, so why not). Rivera got my "lifetime achievement" vote (and he was the only consistent pitcher on a shambolic staff).

AL RoY

Joe Blanton
Gustavo Chacin
Jonny Gomes

Damn good year for rookie pitchers in the AL.

AL Manager

Eric Wedge
Joe Torre
Ken Macha

Sorry, I can't bring myself to vote for the guy who managed the 6th or 7th best team in the league to a massively luck-aided 99 win season.

NL MVP

Albert Pujols
Derrek Lee
Jason Bay
Morgan Ensberg
Carlos Delgado
Miguel Cabrera
Andruw Jones
Ken Griffey Jr.
Todd Helton
Brian Giles

Lee and Pujols are close, but Big Al waited patiently for Barry to clear out of the way. It's his turn now. Jones' placement looks about right.

NL Cy Young

Dontrelle Willis
Chris Carpenter
Andy Pettitte
Pedro Martinez
Roger Clemens

Ugh. The agony of trying to choose. Reasoning started to give way to hunches and personal preferences.

Dontrelle: The one bad stretch of three starts. The shutouts. The IP. The avg game score. Shutting up the people who said he couldn't pitch well after the All-Star Break.

Pedro: Godly WHIP. A resurgent year after I'd nearly written him off. I've always liked him.

Carpenter: Sorry dude, but the last month counts. I don't care if you weren't motivated after your team clinched.

Petitte: Quite clearly the most underrated/underappreciated pitcher of the year.

Clemens: Fuck him. He didn't deserve at least two of his Cy's so he can rot in fifth on my ballot this year.

NL RoY

Zach Duke
Ryan Howard
Jeff Francoeur

NL Manager

Bobby Cox
Phil Garner
Ned Yost

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. David Ortiz
3. Travis Hafner
4. Vladimir Guerrero
5. Manny Ramirez
6. Mark Teixeira
7. Derek Jeter
8. Michael Young
9. Gary Sheffield
10. Paul Konerko

Fuck A-Rod, but he's great. Jeter was excellent this year! He walked a lot! Konerko's the closest thing the Sox have to an MVP candidate.

AL CY

1. Johan
2. Mariano
3. Bartolo
4. Millwood
5. Garland

Johan didn't disprove his "best pitcher in AL" status, except to those who look at records. Mariano was "done" before this season, wasn't that the word on the street? Millwood deserved a better fate/Cliff Lee's record!

AL ROY

1. Blanton
2. Gomes
3. Chacin

AL Manager

1. Wedge
2. Ozzie
3. Macha

NL MVP

1. Derrek
2. Pujols
3. Andruw
4. Ensberg
5. Bay
6. Cabrera
7. Kent
8. Giles
9. Clemens
10. Aramis/Bonds (probably Bonds)

Homerism aside, Derrek had the best year in the majors! Albert will probably win, though.

NL CY

1. Dontrelle
2. Clemens
3. Carpenter
4. Pedro
5. Pettitte

NL ROY

1. Howard
2. Francoeur
3. Duke

NL Manager

1. Cox
2. Garner
3. Dusty (jk lolz)
3. Yost

― gear (gear), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Looks like Willis is getting lots of 'Best Actor' votes. Charm counts on ILB!

Barry, how many Fin du Mondes did you have before Todd Helton made yr ballot AT THE EXPENSE OF DAVID WRIGHT?!?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Hmm ... what was I thinking?

1) Helton was 4th in NL OPS.
2) Helton was ahead of Wright in VORP
3) I already had a 3rd baseman on my ballot (Ensberg)

except that

1) Wright's VORP is higher than Ensberg's
2) The difference in VORP between Wright and Helton is negligible when you consider that one guy plays in Coors Field and the other guy plays a much more difficult defensive position
3) Wright is hotter than Ensberg or Helton

I think I messed up by not including Wright.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Methinks so!

I know Hafner (particularly) and Victor Martinez (maybe) deserve ballot spots, but no Jhonny Peralta? Shortstop who slugs .520? (admittedly he'd be the fourth SS on the AL ballot)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I left Peralta off in lieu of V-Mart and Hafner and Young and I think Texeira. I didn't save my voting results.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

A great-hitting catcher is far rarer than a great-hitting shortstop these days.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I put V-Mart #2!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

>Clemens: Fuck him. He didn't deserve at least two of his Cy's so he can rot in fifth on my ballot this year.<

But dood, he didn't get any undeserved IBAs!

>Wright's VORP is higher than Ensberg's<

And Andruw's, Griffey's, and Giles'!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

And by Expected Wins Added, Rivera trails K-Rod this year.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=52

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

...

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

AL winners:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4576

All my #1s won except Blanton.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

and the NL:

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4577

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

For the first time since 1999, the winner of the Internet NL MVP Award is not Barry Bonds. In fact, Bonds didn’t even appear on a single ballot after missing most of the 2005 season.

Except for mine! WTF?

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

I was never sure my ballot got counted either.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

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