Don't Believe The Hype

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Wherein we reminisce about highly-touted prospects that never amounted to a hill of beans while simultaneously avoiding the sort of press that your Fidryches & Ankiels garnered.

I dedicate this thread to GREGG JEFFRIES, one of the biggest "wha happen?" busts of the last 2 decades, and the poster boy for the Mets woes that happened between the end of the Davey Johnson era and the start of Bobby V's Reign of Fake Moustaches (aka HoJo's House of Firecrackers). List if you wanna, but I'd prefer eulogies that touch on your memories regarding the stiff/s you've chosen to mention.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Wait wait Gregg Jeffries wasn't the second coming of Ty Cobb or anything, but he was far from a complete bust. He never developed much power and he could never stay healthy, but he was still a solid switch-hitting position player who had a reasonable career.

Todd Van Poppel, OTOH, was a complete bust.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I fail to see how a #1 overall pick & Can't Miss Starting Pitcher Supastar whose Major League career featured a whole two-season-long bout w/ effectiveness as a middle reliever can qualify as a bust!

:D

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I'd think that, in terms of sheer unadulterated awesomeness, Toe Nash and his aggravated crime against nature probably has to rule this thread.

Garrett Martin (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm not saying that Mr. Nash is in any way awesome. I am saying that the overall Toe Nash story is rather awesome in how quickly he went from the Natural to Michael Jackson in about a year. A good way to kill the hype: a string of assaults followed up with child rape. Way to go, Toe.

Garrett Martin (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Brien Taylor

gear (gear), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Ben McDonald

gear (gear), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Steve Avery, to an extent.

And Randy Tomlin, whatever happened to him?

gear (gear), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

HIDEKI IRABU.

Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/pete_mcentegart/03/04/ten.spot/tx.clint.hurdle.si.jpg


Von Hayes was a pretty good player, but he never could live up to the hype of that 5 for 1 trade to the Phils which included Julio Franco.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Ben McDonald OTFM. I'd love to get my hands on a Beckett guide from 1991 or so just to see whose Bowman Refractors used to be worth $20.

Bill Pulsipher!
Arquimedez Pozo!
Brian Rose!
Brooks Kieschnick!
Kurt Brown (notable for being taken #5 in 1985 and never making the majors - the sixth pick was some guy named Barry Bonds)!
Proto-Francoeur Kevin Maas!

And, recently, Jeff Allison - whose painkiller addiction and near-fatal heroin overdose surely has to rank him near Nash in terms of overall ignominy.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

i looked at Clint Hurdle's stats! what a phenom! WTF

gear (gear), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Hurdle got off to a Francoeur like start for his first month or so in the majors, which is what that article is covering. Needless to say, he didn't keep in up. If I was Bobby Cox, I'd tape that magazine in Francoeur's locker as a reminder.

Joe Charboneau was another a big deal and his rookie cards were going high dollar until the next season and the flop. I know there was a big Sports Illustrated article about Charboneau, but I can't remember if he got a cover story. I suppose he at least had one good season before turning back into a pumpkin.

I don't think that quote from Ted Williams hyping Daryl Strawberry ever did him much good.

I saw on a baseball site that Cal Elred announced his retirement yesterday. Eldred had a long career as an end of the bullpen pitcher and a couple of decent years as a starter, but there was a bunch of people comparing him to Tom Seaver when he came up with Milwaukee.

I suppose we should give some props to a guy like Gary Sheffield, who was hyped up big time when he came up with Milwaukee. It seemed like Sheff would flame out and he came close a few times, but somehow managed to keep it together and have a productive career.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Back in the day:

http://www.sportlots.com/gifs/bonus/89sheffield.jpg

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Nothing I ever end up doing in life is going to eclipse the greatness of that "Future Star" font.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Ty Griffin, who is probably still in the Cubs' minor league system!

gear (gear), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

GARY SCOTT

gear (gear), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

I saw a feature on TV last season about Gary Scott someplace last summer, basically telling the tale of what it is like to go from being a future allstar to working in the real world.

Willie Greene was hyped in Cinci for five years to be the future third basemen of the Reds. He started there for a couple of years, but never became a star.

Sam Horn has to be a legand of this kind of thing, criminy that big Red Sox site is named in his 'honor'.

Jose Rijo was rushed to the majors, so that The Boss would have his own young star pitcher like Doc Gooden. Rijo was a very good pitcher when he was healthy, but I always wondered if how he was treated coming up led to all of the injuries down the line.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 1 December 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

Sooo many Mets pitchers... Tim Leary, Jeff Bittiger, Generation K...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

what is Gary Scott doing these days, then?

gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

ask yr moms

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

: o

gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember profession that Gary Scott was involved with but he seemed to be doing OK and living in suburban bliss. At least from the interview, Scott seemed pretty at peace with not making it in baseball.

Tim Leary had a good year with LA when they beat the A's in the series and I think may have actually gotten a decent sized free agent contract out of the Yanks a few years later. Leary sucked when he was with the Reds.

I was given a couple of Sports magazines baseball issues from 1987 by a lady at work that are a scream. Cory Snyder is featured as being a rising star well ahead of one Barry Bonds in one upcoming players article. There is a good article in one by Thomas Boswell that is also kind of "Moneyballish". I need to get them out and post some of the gems I read in them, one issue is a baseball preview and the other is some article about how much players get paid and are they worth it.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 3 December 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

Marty Cordova!

disco violence (disco violence), Saturday, 3 December 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)


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