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Andy K, Thursday, 30 October 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

Royals obtain 1B Jacobs from Marlins for Leo "Needs a" Nuñez "Pair of Shoes"

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/866594.html

Andy K, Thursday, 30 October 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

Do they even need Mike Jacobs? Weird.

polyphonic, Thursday, 30 October 2008 18:57 (seventeen years ago)

Does anyone need Mike Jacobs?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 30 October 2008 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

can he still catch? (i'm guessing no)

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HOT STOVE!

Sir, are you calling 911 to complain about traffic? (G00blar), Thursday, 30 October 2008 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

CATCH IT

Sir, are you calling 911 to complain about traffic? (G00blar), Thursday, 30 October 2008 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

Jacobs is a decent bat.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 October 2008 22:59 (seventeen years ago)

Not for a 1B.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 30 October 2008 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

And no he can't catch apparently.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 30 October 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

he was #15 in the NL in slugging... with a <.300 OBP. ouch.

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maybe KC isn't planning on him being a fulltime 1b. He could be a chip for the next move.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 October 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

Again does anyone need Mike Jacobs?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 30 October 2008 23:24 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, kc has shealy, teahen, kila, jacobs and billy butler that all can play first base.

apparently, moore doesn't care for billy butler.

j.q higgins, Friday, 31 October 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

Not that this is going to happen, but what if Tampa Bay picked up Manny? Wouldn't that make a ton of sense?

polyphonic, Friday, 31 October 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Except for the price tag, it might.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 17:15 (seventeen years ago)

They've got a lot of new fans, and signing a high profile free agent would be a good way of maintaining that.

polyphonic, Friday, 31 October 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

while at the same time destroying all that was great about them.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 31 October 2008 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

Manny makes everything better, though.

polyphonic, Friday, 31 October 2008 18:05 (seventeen years ago)

long ass FA list

bnw, Friday, 31 October 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

Surprised Smoltz is only type B. Did he miss a lot of time?

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)

Haha okay like 90% of the season. I'll shut up now.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 18:49 (seventeen years ago)

if the cardinals pick up Mark Prior I may eat a bullet.

bnw, Friday, 31 October 2008 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

If they pick up Mark Prior they are going to pay him in bratwurst most likely.

Alex in SF, Friday, 31 October 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

The Chicago Cubs' humiliating postseason collapse was not the result of shaky pitching, nonexistent hitting or an infield as porous as Missouri limestone.

Rather, the club's demise was preordained at a Tennessee tattoo parlor some 600 miles from Wrigley Field. That's where lifelong fan Jimmy Burroughs got the Cubs logo etched onto his right shoulder blade. But that's not all he got. Carved ever-so-lightly within the Cubbie "C" he found the words, "Go Cards."

"I pretty much blame the tattoo for the Cubs losing," said Burroughs, 26, a child therapist from Bloomington, Ind. "It kills me to have a tattoo that says 'Go Cards.'"

In July, the Cubbies were on track to win the National League Central and Burroughs felt confident the team would go all the way. So during a family vacation to Gatlinburg, Tenn., Burroughs stopped at American Rebel Tattoo Studios in nearby Pigeon Forge. There, he and tattoo artist Deke Rivers engaged in some good-humored ribbing about the Cubs' longtime rivalry with the St. Louis Cardinals. Rivers says he is not a Cardinals fan, but wrote "Go Cards" on the tattoo as a joke.

"We laughed about it," Burroughs recalled. "I told him, 'Color it in now.'"

Rivers filled in the "C" with red ink but as the tattoo dried, the message resurfaced. Rivers was shocked.

Rivers refunded Burroughs' $190, but Burroughs decided not to fix his flesh-and-blood endorsement of the Cards.

"This was the weird thing — after I got the tattoo, the Cardinals actually started losing and the Cubs took off," Burroughs said.

"We are very superstitious," said Burroughs' sister, Amanda Burroughs, a Cubs fan living in O'Fallon, Ill. "We're the kind of family where you have to sit in the exact same spot you did last time the Cubs won. So when I heard about the tattoo, I was like, 'Oh my gosh.' But then the Cardinals weren't doing so well, so my family was fine with it. Well, we all know how that turned out."

Yes, we do.

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bnw, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

my prediction for the two total garbage free agents the twins sign (they do it every year) -

rich aurilia and mark loretta

the sir weeze, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

My friend in the Padres clubhouse says the only thing Khalil Greene eats is crackers with tuna pretty much. Seems odd, and probably why he gets hurt a lot...

I'm not sure why I posted that, thought I'd share...

Andy K, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

lowe back to dirty water?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 9 November 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

I think the man's decision to sign will be based mostly on where he can get the most free drinks. So yeah probably.

mayor jingleberries, Sunday, 9 November 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know if he is available, but I'd like to see if the Reds could maybe get Nick Swisher out of the White Sox. Swisher had a bad year, but he is a switch hitter, is a year or maybe two from free agency and kind of fits into the Reds kind of budget. Swisher is also from Ohio, so he might actually be interested in playing for Cinci. The Reds need to get someone with some power who can hit from the right side to put in left field and bat between Joey Votto and Jay Bruce. I've got a feeling though that the Reds might try to sign Pat Burrell.

earlnash, Monday, 10 November 2008 06:43 (seventeen years ago)

Matt Holliday appears headed to the Oakland Athletics in a deal with the Colorado Rockies, baseball sources have told ESPN's Jerry Crasnick and Buster Olney.

Final details are being finalized, though the teams have agreed to terms, a baseball source told Olney.

The deal isalso pending completion of physical exams.

Although the package coming back to Colorado has yet to be determined, it's believed that pitcher Greg Smith was one of the players under discussion.

govern yourself accordingly, Monday, 10 November 2008 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

have fun at sea level, big man

omar little, Monday, 10 November 2008 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

what does Beane know?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

Not pleased if Brett Anderson is really part of this deal.

Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

Street and Carlos Gonzalez OTOH is okay by me.

Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

this comes as a surprise.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 10 November 2008 21:14 (seventeen years ago)

I think this may make both teams worse

bnw, Monday, 10 November 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

Carlos Gonzalez will win the triple crown in Coors. just watch.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

I can't see how this could possibly make the A's worse (I don't think there is any position player on the A's who is better than even road version-Holliday and all the A's pitchers are replaceable commidities.)

The Rockies being worse I can see.

Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

A's LF '08 (nine players): .240/.343/.404

Andy K, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:34 (seventeen years ago)

It's a good thing they didn't go after Bonds in 2008.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:39 (seventeen years ago)

/bitter

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:39 (seventeen years ago)

I can't blame them for that though. I'm sure if they thought they could do it without incurring the wrath of Sir Bud they would have.

Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:48 (seventeen years ago)

Rumor has it Holliday for Gonzalez/Smith/Street.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 01:10 (seventeen years ago)

Nats deal Bonifacio, minor leaguers for Marlins' Willingham, Olsen

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3694827

Andy K, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

interesting...

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:39 (seventeen years ago)

so the marlins are apparently serious about shifting away from last year's strategy of bludgeoning both themselves and their opponent by only hitting home runs

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:40 (seventeen years ago)

well, how can you start rallies if you've got guys hitting rally-killing home runs?

j.q higgins, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

That shit never gets old.

Send more problem children to Washington, please.

Andy K, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

i hear billu butler's in the doghouse and the royals are trying to field a team entirely of first basemen. we could have a match!

j.q higgins, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 22:18 (seventeen years ago)

lmbo!

hello my name is peter francis geraci are you in debt (omar little), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

was he having a particularly shitty spring or did he open his yap again?

hello my name is peter francis geraci are you in debt (omar little), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

shitty spring, old, expensive

otm in new york (G00blar), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 16:48 (sixteen years ago)

pretty crazy, he totally nosedived after his first half in '07:

21 HR, 58 RBI, 78 R, 52 BB, .303/.410/.560 in 82 games

second half:

4 HR, 17 RBI, 29 R, 32 BB, .203/.324/.299

hello my name is peter francis geraci are you in debt (omar little), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)

morgan ensberg r.i.p.

bnw, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

slow internet connection means I thought Morgan Ensberg was dead for about 10 seconds there

otm in new york (G00blar), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

Hot stove = transactions and cremations

Rays making the move for the sake of Sheffield, obv.

Andy K, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:31 (sixteen years ago)

Geoff Jenkins also DFA'd.

Andy K, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

Hm.

Andy K, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

Newark's gonna have one hell of a team this year.

otm in new york (G00blar), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

"Most versatile player to play this game... unfortunately I wasn't given the opportunity to do that there." -- Sheffield on MLB Network

Andy K, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, Gary, you accommodated the Tigers after you hurt your shoulder playing the outfield and couldn't do anything but attempt to get healthy by accepting the DH role.

Andy K, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

Sheffield can go ahead and hit his 500th, but I bet the Hall will keep him waiting for a good long time. The dude has been acting like a putz on and off since he was 19.

earlnash, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

plus the roidin'

hello my name is peter francis geraci are you in debt (omar little), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 00:24 (sixteen years ago)

he's an obv a deserving first-ballot HOFer, but then so is Bonds.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

Morbs, defender of roids.

Mark C, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

Mark, sponge of conventional "wisdom"

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

he's an obv a deserving first-ballot HOFer

uh ...

He's currently 21st in OPS among active players, behind at least a dozen sure-fire HOF'er who are clearly in a different league than Sheffield. He never won an MVP, rarely led the league in anything (he scores pitifully low on Bill James' black ink test), and none of the intangibles are in his favour (steroids, asshole).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:38 (sixteen years ago)

hmmmmmmmmmmm. you mean Tim Kurkjian was wrong? I may have been hasty.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/sheffga01.shtml

His top 10 comps are all HOFers save McGriff, who might get in, alas.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

None of them are particularly strong comps, although the McGriff comp does deserve to be at the top of the list (and McGriff is no HOFer). And of course, 500 HR isn't what it used to be. I count maybe five or six great seasons in his career that look like part of a HOF career, but even those seasons are nothing special compared to the numbers that plenty of other guys were putting up at the same time.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

but his HOF 'Standards' and 'Monitor' are 61.2 and 146, comparable to Jeff Bagwell's 59 and 149.5.

I think it depends on how long the writers are going to punish hitters of this "era." When Kahrl, Neyer and Law vote (10 years?), I'd guess they all vote for him.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:13 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, but Bagwell had an amazing peak and piled up those numbers in fewer seasons, and IMO Bagwell destroys Sheffield in the Keltner test (not sure how much stock you put in that "test" however).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)

i'm ignorant of it.

anyway, Rangers cut Catalonotto, keep Andruw.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:27 (sixteen years ago)

& give Kris Benson a spot in the rotation!

johnny crunch, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

Mark, sponge of conventional "wisdom"

Morbs, I'm a cyclist, I follow very closely the whole drugs controversy in that sport and would flatter myself I have a fairly good understanding of it. My understanding of drugs in baseball is way less profound, but "drugs are bad" is not a difficult message to understand. There are no ifs and buts.

What joy do you get in being an apologist for those who are destroying the sport? Is it some kind of challenge, or just the inevitable result of your contrarianism?

Mark C, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:39 (sixteen years ago)

(A)
(B)
(Both A and B)

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

"drugs are bad" is not a difficult message to understand, but its basically a retarded message, that most middle schoolers see right through

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

also: 1) baseball is not being "destroyed" by anyone and 2) if it is being "destroyed" its sure as hell not by the players

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

I also follow cycling, and baseball could learn a hell of a lot from cycling when it comes to putting players' legacies in perspective (i.e. not to shitcan entire eras because of what drugs may or may not have been used and which athletes may or may not have used them).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

there is a forum for gaywads on bikes already

bnw, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:45 (sixteen years ago)

Rolling Steroids Thread 2009

y'know, if we want to do this again

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

My understanding of drugs in baseball is way less profound, but "drugs are bad" is not a difficult message to understand. There are no ifs and buts.

If drugs are bad, then why do I love them so much?

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:17 (sixteen years ago)

Not gonna do this again, but boy the NFL sure hasn't been "destroyed."

Mets shd pick up Catalonotto for PH/OF.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

good call--little cat can still hit no doubt.

i have less-than-fond memories of his jays years when he seemed to regularly shiv the sox.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

Neyer wonders why the Phils wd be interested in Sheffield:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4036317&name=Neyer_Rob

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

an outfield with shef in right and ibanez in left would be pretty epic

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)

they'd need to call Garry Maddox outta retirement for CF and bionicize him

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

I'd settle for Bake McBride

bela fregosi (brownie), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

As far as Sheffield is concerned, I figure they can use him to spell Howard, Ibanez, and Werth, and use him as a pinch hitter. He is only one season removed from a .265/.378./.462 season in a pitcher's park in a league with tougher pitching. If he's washed up it costs them nothing since he's still on Detroit's payroll, and they can simply release him if he acts up. He is more likely to have a productive season than Geoff Jenkins, imo. Total no-brainer unless he's taking at-bats away from some AAA kid I don't know about.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)

I tag on Sheffield but it looks like he might end up a Red. I guess it all flows down the Ohio river. Sheffield was a really good right handed hitter. The dude has just been a dope on and off through out his career. Playing in NY and LA did him no favors, but Sheff seemed to fit in OK when he was in Atlanta and Miami.

I think of the 40+ year old hitting brigade, Bonds excluded as no one will give him a shot, Moises Alou can still swing the bat. Alou breaks down a bit every time he plays, but the old guy can still hit.

earlnash, Friday, 3 April 2009 04:17 (sixteen years ago)

Kris Benson -- there is a name I have not heard in awhile...I wonder how the stripper is doing?

earlnash, Friday, 3 April 2009 04:19 (sixteen years ago)

12:08pm: Sherman adds that Mets GM Omar Minaya spoke to Sheffield directly recently to explain how he'd fit with the team. Meanwhile, several Phillies players have contacted Sheffield to lobby him to sign.

11:23am: According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, the Mets are close to signing Gary Sheffield. The Mets plan to give him significant playing time. They'd only have to pay $400K and would consider Sheffield an option in both outfield corners. Sherman's source said:

"Unless something drastic happens, he is a Met. Someone would have to offer him a second year, and I just don't see that happening."

He could have one great month fueled by the newly polished chip on his shoulder.

Andy K, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhmar. What shit.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:20 (sixteen years ago)

were the Phillies players lobbying him to sign with the Mets?

bnw, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

Haha that's what I was wondering.

Uncle Dwight would be happy.

Andy K, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:53 (sixteen years ago)

The Mets do need a DH.

otm in new york (G00blar), Friday, 3 April 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

Douchebag Hasbeen?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 3 April 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

this is the only upside for the mets
The addition of Sheffield could mean Marlon Anderson’s days with the Mets are numbered. A pinch-hitting specialist, he batted .210 with a homer and 10 RBIs last year.

velko, Saturday, 4 April 2009 02:23 (sixteen years ago)

"A pinch-hitting specialist"

;_;

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 April 2009 11:09 (sixteen years ago)


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