O NOES Fantasy Baseball 09 Thread (No Morbs)

Hi guiz. Are we doing a league or not y/n.

yes plz

I think I will claim Koyaanis Kotsay as team name after all.

noice

you win the battle of team names

who wants to commish this after last year's KRAZINESSSS?

y - i'm down for commissn'n again.

don't expect much until i get back from Spain in early march tho.
i liked the stats we used last year (except for the cycle and no-hitters) (maybe replace them with hbp or something for our lolstat)!

hmm xpost - remind me what craziness we had last year?!

wow - i had sort of blocked out how brutal my draft was last year... Ortiz, Pedro, Posada - Rafael Soriano! ugh!

maybe if a few people have different ideas for stats we can do a poll?

i wasnt in the league last year but wasnt there like huge controversies about something, okay maybe not who cares

maybe you're thinking two years ago when shasta backed out of running the thing the day of the draft?!

i'm totally in again.

Yeah, "say it ain't so, Shasta" was two years ago. Last year had to be the most drama-free season we've ever had! The low level of trade talk had a lot to do with that, though.

Count me in.

I would love a "positive drug test" LOLstat, which would include names from the super secret 2003 list, as long as the entire list doesn't leak before draft day.

I didn't back out of running the thing... I deleted my team from the league but I guess if you do that before assigning a co-commisioner it deletes the league. i'm not travelling nearly as much these days so I am up for a ILBB fantasy team... if you guys let me... u_u

i gave up on all my leaguez abt halfway thru the season in 08, so i'm just gonna count myself out this year

<<<<<<<<me>>>>>>>

I'm in, but definitely against Cycles and No-Hitters after last season!

yes no retarded stats please

I'm in!

j/k

hahahaha

I'd be up for this again. It's been awhile though.

i'm in again!

I'm in, but definitely against Cycles and No-Hitters after last season!

shutouts, C/D?

I like having lots of stat categories, but I def. agree about CYC and NH.

Shutouts are better than cycles and no-hitters, but they're a pretty empty category.

what date is yahoo! opening up the leagues to registration?

seems a little tardy this year...

ya, i can't find much about it aside from a vague mention that maybe it should be sometime this week?

no rush tho - since i'm not gonna be setting anything up until i'm back from Spain the first week of March. maybe set the draft up for the last weekend of March. 28 or 29th i think.

Yahoo registration is open now, but what does peoples thinks about ESPN's advantage of free live scoring and fantasycast? I'd like to save that ten bucks.

It wasn't a rhetorical question -- opinions plz!

I have had bad experiences with ESPN.

Such as?

For one thing, I think most fantasy players I know tend to use Yahoo for most of their leagues, and an ESPN league requires them to make the extra effort to go to a different website, and that leads to a lot of players dropping out early or not trying as hard or whatever.

We did ESPN for the ILX fantasy football league this season, and I found the system incredibly inflexible and weird, but that not be a problem for baseball.

Yeah, I was in the fantasy football league -- I don't remember anything weird or inflexible, except maybe not being able to make roster moves during the weekend, but like you say, that's n/a for baseball.

I'm just trying to save a few bucks everywhere I can this year. Economy's going to take a big chunk out of me.

Yahoo doesn't cost anything unless you get stat tracker, which I have never bothered to purchase in 10+ years of using the site.

you can just click the little link to the box score and get your live stats there rather than pay $10 for them to appear on the same page as your roster

the free stats are nice. and stat tracker is my lifeblood during night classes! but yahoo does have familiarity plus lol trophy case and can keep track of carryover leagues. I would still vote yahoo b/c thats where are all my other fantasy action is.

id vote yahoo also. same reasons as poly stated

yahoo is the only w2g

ok I bow 2 majority, thankig u

do it up head to head 12 teams

Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Stat Categories: R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OPS, W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

no exotic bs

i'd be down

If someone would be so kind as to email me and tell me how it all works I'd like to join and draft nothing but Rockies players as that's all I know!

Mr. Commissioner Thermo, you wanna set it up?

hello from granada. please read my first post.
this is my first night not being drunk off my ass so i thought i'd see what you guys had figured out.

head2head=gay. my preference would be to stick with rotisery. yay/nay?

any other stats sugestions/requests would be cool. will get down to business once i'm back in a little over a week.

yeah, i concur. not bananas about h2h.

h2h sucks for fbb imo

so i'm thinking maybe live draft 22nd (sunday)?
drawing a blank on any sort of lolname. sorry. (for whatever i go with)

euhh... 29th?

ok.
i killed triples, hitter strikeouts, cycles and replaced obp and slg with obps.
and for pitching took away shutouts, walks, and no-no's. and then, just to make things interesting, added save%, an extra roster spot for one more pitcher and upped the max ip. (from last years stats)

ID/PW?

look ok to you?

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/168381

pw = vorped

draft = 29th 12:30

my last 8:
14. (196)Chris Carpenter - boya!
15. (197) Scott Downs - dropped when he didn't get the closer gig right away
16. (224) Mike Pelfrey - still on my team for some reason
17. (225) Fred Lewis - dumped for Span
18. (252) Jed Lowrie - ugh
19. (253) J.J. Putz - UGH
20. (280) Aaron Hill - BOOSH
21. (281) Kendry Morales - i should not have dropped this man

my best waiver pick-up would be Sandoval, without a doubt. sort of makes up for the Kendry bone-head move.

i always feel pretty good about one "reach" pick and this year it was heath bell but looking back i have no idea wtf i was thinking with half of those guys.

my best waiver pick-ups were zobrist, upton, and montero. ortiz was ok but i'm not sure he really helped my team.

well of course the wire is crucial. don't forget your grab of j.p. howell. one night i went hmm howell would be a great pickup, but i need holds.. how about bruney instead?

i didnt think i abandoned my team but now i realize i forgot to start arroyo today. in the spirit of this:

i have prince fielder in two leagues now. in a money work league 12 team basic 5x5 stats i ended up getting him yet again. so for this league the highest ranked undrafted player was jason giambi. i found these two 2008 lines fascinating:

Fielder (25th pick)
Player Action O-Rank Owned H/AB R HR RBI SB AVG OPS
(Mil - 1B) 19 99% 162/588 86 34 102 3 .276 .879

Giambi (undrafted)
Player Action O-Rank Owned H/AB R HR RBI SB AVG OPS
(Oak - 1B) 226 55% 113/458 68 32 96 2 .247 .875

from 2008 stats they're essentially the same player save for 30 points of batting average and a couple more runs. i realize the 2009 projections tell a different tale but i kind of found this interesting.

― sanskrit, Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:33 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

difference being they're on opposite sides of the age/performance curve and prince is only 1 season removed from a 50hr season which he could forseeably replicate

― ۞_۞ (ciderpress), Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:55 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

yeah no shit about the 27 peak curve, but this season has been a perfect illustration of it. of course there are counter examples like ibanez but it's kind of fascinating how it played out just as we expected.

anyway, my point was, i took ellsbury first pick of the 6th round in the ilxor league (71st overall). i got a deal on his adp and he even exceeded my projections, he's having a great season. now, hindsight is 20/20 but i kind of found this CF best worlds wire pickup frankenstein interesting:

if you took michael bourn off the wire to start to season (bland start) then dropped him for juan pierre after manny's ban, then nyjer morgan after manny's return w/ pierre's playtime cut, then rajai davis after morgan's snapped finger, it would look like this (stats through today):

ellsbury
HR RBI R BA NETSB OPS
7 52 81 0.302 52 0.769

fast as shit CF composite wire pickups
HR RBI R BA NETSB OPS
3 57 101 0.336 45 0.835

again, it's a little unfair to line up three white hot runs, but there wasn't a ton of competition for these guys in our league until they really started to go nuts. plus i was able snag 3/4 of this run in another league.

11. (147) Pablo Sandoval (dropped, unwisely)
12. (162) Jose Arredondo (dropped)
13. (175) Cameron Maybin (dropped)
14. (190) Xavier Nady (dropped)
15. (203) Hank Blalock (dropped)
16. (218) Ian Stewart (dropped)
17. (231) Chris Volstad (should've dropped)
18. (246) Armando Galarraga (dropped)
19. (259) Elvis Andrus (decent steals guy, I guess)
20. (274) Jeff Clement (dropped)
21. (287) Manuel Corpas (dropped)

Probably my worst fantasy baseball draft ever.

i always try to keep big trades to a minimum and try to plug in weak spots with waiver work. i really don't try to panic on the big dudes i've got and prefer to hold onto them (i got burned on an erik bedard drop a couple seasons back.) my two trades this year were cutting bait on offensive players for pitchers. aaron harang for pat burrell was pretty useless for both sides and i got lucky on matt cain for milton bradley.

CONGRATULATIONS, IN AMBIORIX BURGOS

Yes, congrats! Quite the dominating win.

Me, I spent 874383 consecutive days in 10th place, then briefly climbed up to 9th before settling back in comfortable old 10th spot again. Not a season to write home about. My hitters badly underperformed (except for the first week of the season) and I was scrambling the whole season to plug holes in my offense.

Very happy with second place. Team name will either remain the same next year or change to Colon/King AC (Bartolo Colon/Ray King Athletic Club).

congrats justin, on dominating 1st place this year. your trophy is in the mail (no it is not).

so who would be open to turning this into a keeper league next year? i've always wanted to try one and give or take a few - we seem to have the same lot each season. you guys are a great bunch to play against and i think it'd be fun.

Never played a keeper league before -- how many people can we protect?

i feel good that i pulled ahead of cankles (who prob last updated his team in april) on the last day of the season

no idea, will. i will look into things more if there's some interest. never done it myself either.

should also say i'm happy i was able to pull ahead of Moistest Aloo in the last week.

thanks everyone. well-played. and a special shout-out to waiver wire wonders miguel montero, ben zobrist, andrew bailey, and justin upton~ time to transfer that mojo over to my crappy football team.

i had considered picking up both Zob and Upton just before you grabbed them - well played.
what would you say to kicking our asses yearly in a keeper dealy?

I'd be interested in trying a keeper league (I've also never played in one before).

Thermo, have you kept track of the all-time ILB Lightfoot Cup standings? It's a three (four?) team race now, isn't it? :)

to answer WmC's question - it looks like we can make the settings whatever we like. although yahoo's not a huge help with info on the keeper settings.

xpost - i forget who the other canuks are! i finished 6, so between you and me, right now the Lighfoot cup will be parading down young street in my arms this year!

whoops i kind of stopped paying attention to this sometime in the summer when i was away w/o internet every other week

xpost I think we were tied 2-2 before this year, but I also forget who the another Canucks are!

One of my only bright spots this season was pulling to within two or three points of the Vottobots about a month ago (but not out of tenth place overall). But my team quickly returned to mediocrity soon after.

yup - so i'm up 3-2 now (assuming i indeed won it this year) - just double checked.

i have visited our beautiful sister to the north and the hockey team i back is the edmonton oilers but thats abt as close as i get!

i would be down for a keeper league. is there some way to weigh who ppl keep (not in a prince fielder sense) to make it fairer?

i think you can keep whomever you like - we just decide on the number. there might be special consideration for rookies (think i read about a setting for that in some league)?

i wish yahoo had more info on the workings.

also - go Flames!

these were the rules my buddy set in a H2H keeper league we just started this year ~ obviously we all knew them at the outset and i gotta say it did affect some of my decisions thru out so there's that..

--you cannot keep for the next year anyone drafted in the first 2 rounds
--for the first player you keep, you give up a pick 1 round ahead of where he was drafted; for the second, it's 2 rounds, etc. (ex: you pick David Ortiz in round 4, you can keep him the next year by giving up your 3rd round pick)
--you can keep as many of your drafted players as you want that remain on your roster all season (and ones acquired by trade)
--you can keep no more than 3 free agents, and they count as being taken in the last round of the draft - which should be round 24 (these are guys you pick up later and did not draft yourself)
--we'll have a consolation bracket playoff, where the winner gets top pick the following year

was that yahoo?

yup

i know abt the rookie thing youre alluding to also i think...you can have a rule linked to a players mlb status and be allowed to keep guys for free who dont reach the set IP or AB #s. again, it affects a lot how you add/drop esp late in the year. also it might only work in a $-bid type league? thats where ive used it b4

I will play keeper (and start paying attention to my miserable team again) if it happens.

sweet! i'm glad a majority are on board so far! i might start a poll in 2010 about what stats we want to go forward with (regardless of weather we go with the keeper or not).

I'm down for whatever.

i down for keeper though it might widen the gulf yoy between competitors and abandoned teams

i'd say keep stats as is they were perfect, but groups call

i can't believe i went through the entire season and only managed 4 holds

As I mentioned earlier in the season, I'd like to see 1 or 2 more generic P roster spots...but the stat categories, yeah, I liked those 16 fine.

imma kill sv% i think.

Oh you mean one of the two stats I finished first in?

yes - the same one i finished 4th in.
the one that defeated the purpose of carrying a set-up man.

now that i look at things - it seems i might have had the best hitting team in VORPed Minds. led in AVG, OPS, runs - second in RBIs. being dead last in FPCT and GIDP is probably what kept me out of the top 3.

4th place is v. respectable after finishing 10th. we are trending in the right direction.

congrats ambro, destroyed everyone most the season.

does yahoo allow for hacking mass style leagues? i.e. a league with categories like pitcher walks, hitter strikeouts, blown saves, caught stealing, etc

obviously you have to find enough counting stats that work properly for it but it could be fun

you could now, i guess - hitter Ks, GIDP, errors, caught stealing - pitchers hr, bb, hbp, runs, balks! not alot, but doable.

Was 14th, made it to 2nd, finished 5th. Not bad for a rookie.

I held down that crucial 8th-of-14 spot most of the year. :/

if you finish behind the brittishes you have to leave the country

Sweet!

top ten finishers in pitching and batting (overall ranking noted as well):

2. Zack Greinke
4. Tim Lincecum
8. Felix Hernandez
9. Javier Vazquez
10. Chris Carpenter
11. Dan Haren
15. Roy Halladay
19. Adam Wainwright
24. Justin Verlander
34. CC Sabathia

1. Albert Pujols
3. Ryan Braun
5. Hanley Ramirez
6. Prince Fielder
7. Ryan Howard
12. Joe Mauer
13. Matt Kemp
14. Carl Crawford
16. Derek Jeter
17. Mark Teixeira

i won my league

C
Miguel Montero
(Ari - C)
1B
Mark Teixeira
(NYY - 1B)
2B
Brian Roberts
(Bal - 2B)
3B
Casey McGehee
(Mil - 2B,3B)
SS
Jason Bartlett
(TB - SS)
OF
Ben Zobrist
(TB - 2B,SS,OF)
OF
Andre Ethier
(LAD - OF)
OF
Shin-Soo Choo
(Cle - OF)
Util
Chris Coghlan
(Fla - 2B,OF)
BN
Raul Ibanez
(Phi - OF)

my pitching is all messed up cuz i was dropping good pitchers in the final weekend for spot starters

i won one of my h2h leagues. unfortunately it wasn't the money one.
winning that shit completely sucked and i'll never do an h2h league again unless it involves 4 OF, a CI, a MI, and at least 15 teams. needs to be deep to be fun. you shouldnt be allowed to add and drop billy butler on travel days nor stream Feldman, J Sanchez, and Tommy Hanson in the last week.

head to head leagues in baseball suck bigtime imho

it is total amateur hour. and if it's a ten team league it's basically a roulette game.