Good Game! Let's Go Eat. The 2012 Philadelphia Phillies Thread.

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Crashburn Alley pretty much the best Phillies blog currently running:
http://crashburnalley.com/2012/02/07/halladay-and-lee-through-a-santana-prism/

Dude just wrote a new book. Haven't read it yet but I'm interested:
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the addition of papelbon made me hate philly even more. sorry bros.

i'm not a big fan myself

papelbon swap for ryan ledge seems fair in a cosmic sense ...

who is ryan ledge?

BRIAN ledge, my bad

BRAD ledge ... my God, my mind is going

lidge lol no worries

CBP denizens are gettin outta their seats for eats every 2 innings, what "go eat"?

oh, it's a Hunter Pence quote. No wonder he's dating a Playmate.

not quite as poetic as 'it's a beautiful day, let's play 2."

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El Pulpo!

Pence was a year behind me in high school and dated a girl who's now a friend. He was (allegedly) a nice guy and was not swinging a Louisville Slugger.

I guess allegedly should have gone before the second part of that.

watching my first baseball of the year (yay!) yankees-phillies exhibition.

juan pierre making some nice defensive plays in center field. bastardo pitching now. i think i missed halladay pitch 2 innings in the beginning of the game.

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oh dominic brown

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from Kevin Goldstein's organizational rankings:

#29 Philadelphia Phillies

System At a Glance: Picking at the end of the first round and being constant buyers at the trade deadline has taken its toll. There are some arms here, but very little offense, and even less depth.

Very little offense otm. 'Some arms here' huge challops, tho.

Also, him ranking Mets above Phillies for organizational rankings (and really anywhere besides the bottom 5) is the kind of challops that boggles the mind.

since you've famously combed the Mets' system with stopwatch and spray charts I'll accept your opinion.

I look forward to the ruin to come, perhaps as soon as this year.

Take a look at the last few years of his rankings and tell me whether you put any stock in his analysis. Seriously.

lol, like I have time.

If you're using major-league success to "measure" his rankings "of the last few years," that seems foggy. Systems are in flux.

I'm not sure how you can better judge the accuracy of his ratings than through major-league success (both from prospects coming up to directly contribute, and leveraging them in trades). Otherwise you're just hoping that he knows something that you don't. His breakdown of the Phillies seems particularly suspect to me, and so even if I don't have the same fluency with other teams, it makes me question his accuracy. He also seems to have overrated Mets prospects over the last couple of years - I have no idea if that indicates a bias, or just the inherent arbitrariness to this kind of thing.

Obviously the Phillies aren't going to continue to go to the playoffs every year for the rest of MLB history (assuming MLB history doesn't end shortly), but I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a "ruin to come." These things are cyclical and even if the Phillies have raided their farming system to win now (and I don't completely buy that is what has happened), systems aren't impossible to restock. You need broad systemic organizational flaws (such as the kind the Mets have been dealing with) to really experience total ruin, and even then the Mets won an NL East title as recently as 2006. At least you aren't rooting for the Nationals!

lol, like I have time.

you should make the time b4 you come storming into threads with sweeping ex-cathedra pronouncements. classic pound-on-the-table-cause-you-have-neither-law-nor-facts behavior.

that said ... the phils' farm system doesn't appear to have much offensive firepower in the wings. i don't know (and don't care) about the mets' farm system.

Systems are in flux.

My new justification for anything and everything.

you should make the time b4 you come storming into threads with sweeping ex-cathedra pronouncements

such as what? I started off just quoting Goldstein. "Ruin to come" is just part of my trolling your rapidly aging team, all season long.

Where are the prospect experts who DON'T think the Philths have scorched the system w/ all the recent trades? K.Law was on the BP podcast a few weeks ago, they seem to be in general agreement.

such as what? I started off just quoting Goldstein. "Ruin to come" is just part of my trolling your rapidly aging team, all season long.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Vs. a team that is trying to compare Keith Hernandez to Ike Davis in its averts

oh c'mon, marketing

Utley: "It's not bad enough to end my career." Very reassuring.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/18046410/phillies-scramble-to-fill-holes-left-by-utley-howard

I've always liked Utley -- he deserved a couple of MVPs won by teammates -- so this is bummer language floating around his knee.

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http://crashburnalley.com/2012/04/04/10-reasons-to-get-excited-about-the-2012-phillies/

jim thome, starting at 1b for the first time since june 2007

the phillies' roving reporter just interviewed dj jazzy jeff in the crowd

did he have a good seat?

phillies are the new padres

In what way

every victory will be 2-1

"baseball activities" for RyHow

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/4/28/2985434/ryan-howard-injury-update-chase-utley-philadelphia-phillies

13-13 in the 10th. not a game you'd think you'd see the phillies playing this year.

@darrenrovell
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I'm at tnite's game v the mets

big interference call there

Ugh

whoa, phillie fans applauded the injured thole

I didn't see anyone applaud

I saw some applause when he sat up tho

Can't imagine he'd be worth more than that on the open market, so now he either wants to play in Philly or he doesn't.

RIP

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at least we get to find out now if brown is a major league player or what

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@TheGoodPhight
A Man Humbled: The Ruben Amaro, Jr. Smug Advisory Alert level has been lowered to GREEN: INDIFFERENCE for 1st time.

from crashburn alley

Overall, this trading season for the Phillies went about as well as they could have reasonably hoped. It would have been great to move Blanton, Pierre, and Wigginton, but there will still be time for that in August. Otherwise, the Phillies were able to clear some money off the books and lightly restock their mediocre Minor League system. The 2013 squad will need a new center fielder and a new third baseman and neither issue was addressed with their deadline deals, so it seems as if Amaro will address those via waivers in August, or via free agency and trades in the off-season. We saw the Phillies play the role of sellers for the first time since 2006 and it was certainly a weird experience, but they came out of it all right.

I think Philly did great in replenishing their farm.. but man this starting OF of Brown-Mayberry-Schierholtz is o_0

like i said a couple of years ago, their offense is now a wasteland right on schedule. i didn't see the mediocre pitching coming though.

offenses age. i don't know why the phillies would dodge that bullet.

they had a terrible plan imo. yanks and bosox have aged as well, as have other teams, but the phils' attempt at emulating them was destined to fail i think. maybe dom brown is going to be an amazing hitter and help turn it around, though. we shall see.

remember the spring Vegas total of 94-95 wins?

I want to see some buses roll north on 2013 Phils Opening Day w/ DC fans showing off some Natitude.

remember the spring Vegas total of 94-95 wins?

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 8:23 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if it helps you forget that the Mutts are only two games ahead of the Phils and 3 1/2 games away from the cellar as of today, then sure knock yerself out.

God, you are a sad pathetic desperate little shit

you really shouldn't post the thoughts going on in yer head when you look in the mirror, it's quite unbecoming.

children, pls

Today was Hunter Pence bobblehead day in Philadelphia.

acc to local philly sports media fans were still excited to get pence bobbleheads

tbf no one at least *looks* like they're trying harder than hunter pence

I would totally get behind Hunter, tbqh

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tbf no one at least *looks* like they're trying harder than hunter pence

― mookieproof, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:04 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mark Teixeira would like a word with you.

phillies farmhand darin ruf has 18 home runs in august (27 games), including seven in his last nine, and 36 for the season. .359/.431/.922 this month.

kind of a mixed blessing being named double-a eastern league mvp at age 26 tho

Tyler Cloyd making his major league debut right now against the Mets

10-4 for the year vs Philly is p much highlight of the Mets' year

utley might be moving to third next year

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hahaha, that's his season in a snapshot

Hm, the Phillies are almost back at .500 and are 5.5 out of the second wild card.

BP has their chances up to 0.6% (ie about a tenth of the Pirates').

getting nervous?

no, they'll shit the bed for a solid week very soon.

Brewers also 5 back in the WC standings

i'm not saying it means anything but phillies won again tnite

i know that the odds of making the playoffs are really bad, but this is neat to watch. and the Phils do tend to get hot the last month of the season.

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the Phils do tend to get hot the last month of the season.

must be their magick uniforms

not to say that it means anything no jinx or anything like that but ho-oly shit what the fuck is happening

Three games back? And the teams ahead of them have played like shit lately, 85 wins is going to be enough to make the playoffs.

phil v mil 1 game playoff for the 2d wc will be hilarious

Some things never change -- game (and maybe the season) on the line, trying to protect a lead in the 8th, Manuel brings in a bunch of nobodies rather than Papelbon, and the Phillies lose.

loooool

phil v mil 1 game playoff for the 2d wc will be hilarious

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quality, appropriate-perspective parenting there

Oh c'mon, Charlie, leave the piñata out there a couple more innings.

Philthies daid

Halladay vs Hanson would have been a better matchup -- a nice 14-13 jamboree.

going to game tnite. it's fan appreciation night!

ruf!

@DKnobler
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