2007 ALCS: Cleveland y Red Sox

Cleveland in 6

Sox in 7

omg, one of the few things I got on the nose in my BP Predictatron ballot was this ALCS matchup! So I'm sticking with my March pick: Tribe in 6.

SOX 5

Tribe in 6

This series is gonna rock bells. I'll root for Cleveland, but I think it'll be Sox in 6.

Wahoos in 6.

it's gonna go like this:

game 1: http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2037/italiansoj1.jpg

game 2: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/363/bostonredsoxlogous3.jpg

game 3: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5717/negoq8.jpg

game 4: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/363/bostonredsoxlogous3.jpg

game 5: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4743/chinesepc7.jpg

game 6: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/859/latinosrc3.jpg

is that face basically bugs bunny's face?

http://www.foxnews.com/images/276881/0_61_giuliani_smiling.jpg

Sox in 6.

morbs just blew my mind.

oh btw

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/BDD_CS_mow_10.7.07_mw.jpg

I honestly like both teams, but I think if Manny and Ortiz are due up late and close vs. Borowski, it could get real ugly real quick.

Red Sox in 6.

Sox, Six.
tho i'm cheering for the tribe.

tribe in five

red sox in five

cleveland red skins

I just can't get behind that mascot. Red Sox in 5.

I will say Red Sox in seven as my way of indicating that I have no idea who will win.

I wouldn't be disappointed if Chief Wahoo disappeared. This was the logo before the "modern" wahoo. It boggles the mind.

http://thephoenix.com/SoxBlog/content/binary/Wahoo.gif

Indians in 6.

tie

yeah, the borowski thing

tribe in 6

Tito says Schilling will pitch game two.

Tito asks, "Where in the world is Rap05a?"

his silence speaks volumes

BOS in 7.

Bosox 5, enough pitching to hang with tribe's big 2 + manny & papi look on. The Indians manager seems like a dumbass too.

game one
http://www.probikeoutlet.com/images/capoforma%20lowrider%20sock%20red.jpg
game two
http://www.finntradeservices.com/catalog/images/Nilkkasukat_lores1.jpg
game three
http://www.sweetmarias.com/india.gif

game four
http://www.britannica.com/mw/c10/art/tepee.gif
game five
http://www.iloveindia.com/indian-heroes/gifs/mahatma-gandhi-indian-hero.jpg
game six
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/4499/FredArmise_Mazur_7864421_400.jpg

jason sudeikis = indians because in 30 rock he went to the cleve', remember?

Might as well post this here:

ESPN's list of the 50 greatest LCS moments (great list, IMO)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=LCSmoments/071008

I attended #32, and being reminded of #18 just ruined my evening.

Clemens has gone nuts twice in the postseason.

FUCK YOU, RICK MONDAY!

It was the closest the Expos would ever come to the World Series.

AND PRECISELY THE SAME EXACT IDENTICAL THING TO YOU, 1994!

Half-prospector/half-monkey

damn son

Yeesh

christ! Stephen King! ;_:

Carmona you are our last hope! Sinkerbell!!

1.5 liter of Cabernet I drink you.

gagne, you make garbage innings fun!

that was like the best & worst of gagne

shouldn't Hafner be called Pronkey?

I'm sure we'd all like to flee to the Cleave'

I just saw that episode last night and the really crazy thing about that scene is that Baldwin references Port Arthur, TX.

From the Times report:

Since the playoffs began, Boston’s devastating third and fourth hitters have been on base in 29 of 36 plate appearances, a shocking statistic.

manny has an 11 game ALCS hitting streak

i have nothing valuable to contribute but GO CLEV TRIBE PLS!!

Mccarver is sounding hoarse tonight

Joel Patrick Skinner (born February 21, 1961 in La Jolla, California) is a former catcher in Major League Baseball and is currently the third base coach of the Cleveland Indians, who he just helped lose the American League Championship Series Game 7 against Boston by holding up Kenny Lofton. He is the son of Bob Skinner, a National League outfielder in the 1950s and '60s. He is known for making the best call in baseball history and advancing the Red Sox to the world series.

gotta love wikipedia

I hate this fucking sport so goddamn much.

yet you continue to watch

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/CryingIndian.jpg

Slightly disappointing postgame "riot," Boston. :(

Highlight of the game = random brahdudes (total strangers, I think) in RF grandstand mouth-kissing each other after Pedroia's homer like they were auditioning for a community theater production of "Take Me Out" or something.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2007/10/22/1193030117_9715.jpg

that is ortiz's wife!!

asleep by the 5th this time.

Damn few competitive games since the NYY-CLE "bug" contest.

wow the media might be making a little too much of the lofton play - final score 11-2 guys

asleep by the 5th this time.

Damn few competitive games since the NYY-CLE "bug" contest.

In the middle of the fifth, it was a 3-2 ballgame. In a game 7. Does a game have to be tied to be "competitive"?

yeah uh

jhøshea that's true but at the time it was 3-2, the next pitch was a double play ball, and then...

so 11-3 then

7th inning or later, I mean

The Sox caught some breaks early in game 7 (bad hop single, lofton safe on the double) but the Tribe was never really going to win anyway. When they couldn't close it out at home I felt their chances slipping away.

Westbrook finally settled in was yanked after retiring 8 straight hitters. Can't really fault Wedge for going with Bettancourt but Westbrook was looking good and I hoped he'd go one more inning.

All in all though the collapse was a team effort- hitting, pitching and coaching. disappointing

ppl sure like "collapse." To use Eric Byrnes' fave word, Indians were just "outplayed" for 3 nights.

At least SABR might get better seats at the Jake next June.

Joe Sheehan: "Victor Martinez is slower than the Mitchell Commission."

ha ha

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wilbur/sports_blog/blog/970x240_cle_ws.jpg

the curse of chief wahoo

oh c'mon. xpost

yes

http://shysterball.blogspot.com/2007/10/joe-posnanski-wahoo-curse.html

1 the creation of racism offences
2 continual change to create confusion
3 the teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4 the undermining of schools and teachers' authority
5 huge immigration to destroy identity
6 the promotion of excessive drinking
7 emptying the churches
8 an unreliable legal system with bias against the victim of crime
9 dependency on the state or state benefits
10 control and dumbing down of media
11 encouraging the breakdown of the family
12 banning beloved mascots

Were it not for the fact that Dennis Kucinich used to be mayor there, I'd say your little elf would be next.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/2007/10/22/JYkDUw85.jpg

when did they start wearing goggles?
is "Champagne eye" some condition I am not aware of?
being a baseball fan is getting harder and harder to justify every year.

I didn't realize this was a Momus thread.

Tracer OTM re: Lofton at 3rd base. It seemed like a tough call for the coach, as Manny actually RAN in at the ball, maybe looking like he was going to throw for home, but then didn't. but yeah, if they had tied it up there and not gotten the subsequent double play, the came MIGHT have been different.

then again, Blake turned in such a disgusting performance at 3rd base...NOT running after the ball he flubbed and making the fielder sprint in after it?? DO YR JOB

i hate blake's stupid ass beard

dudes the lofton play and the double play are unrelated. why not just say like if the red sox had scored 10 less runs the indians wouldve won.

If the Red Sox had scored 10 fewer runs, the Indians would've won.

Bukkake Matsuzaka

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071022/capt.7d012e377a254bf1bafc0dacc80c25e0.alcs_indians_red_sox_baseball_bxf145.jpg

yr being ridiculous, dudes

if lofton had scored or not been called out at 2nd, the game WOULD have been different. they may not have won, but still. you're acting like things don't happen sequentially or something

It's like everyone blaming Bartman for the Cubs losing in 2003. Like he was responsible for the Marlins to score eight more times that night.

rw OTM on the Fallacy of the Predetermined Hit(s)

these are not the arguments to make abt an 11-2 game. cleavland got destroyed. this game clearly didnt hinge on one or two plays.

and in general that sort of cherry picking is kinda ridiculous as a baseball game is made up of a lot of situations - the team who get more of them to go their way wins.

jeez if only the red sox hadnt hit into 3 double plays they couldve scored 17 runs which wouldved just edged out cleavland's 15 that they wouldve got if only kenny lofton had scored that one time and then instead of a double play they got a three run homer and then scored 5 more runs in the inning getting to boston's bullpen early leading to extra innings w/the score tied 15-15 when pinch hitter eric gange drove in two runs in the bottom of the 21st w/a sacrifice bunt that glanced off the imagination of the 3rd base coach...

and i am not acting as if things dont happen in order or indulging in "the Fallacy of the Predetermined Hit(s)"

i think river wolf is talking about momentum here--

everyone knows the red sox own all the momentums

other message boards we should start beef with

http://www.topix.com/forum/baseball-players/ryan-garko

fair nuff, jhøshea, it was a "turning point" is all

arent you supposed to say "tipping point" now lol

i think river wolf is talking about momentum here--

-- Mr. Que, Monday, October 22, 2007 8:12 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, this. that lofton run might have bucked up cleveland morale. because after they all looked like a bunch of sad sacks.

The impact of the Lofton events (umpire's call at 2nd, coach's call at 3rd) reminds me of Krakauer's Into Thin Air. Small choices and judgment calls resulting in disasters seemingly out of all proportion to their individual causes. It's not about "blaming" Skinner for the blowout that came later. His judgment call wasn't disgraceful; it was just mistaken. But that's not to deny that its impact on the opportunities available to both teams and the psyche of the players and crowd. That's baseball.

er, "not to deny that its impact"

Every inning is a new inning just like every game is a new game.

That's why I hate the Yankees so much. Used to be that they could be behind 10-4 in the eighth inning and still pull a win out of their collective asses.

The Indians couldn't afford to blow the opportunities they had available last night. Red Sox hit into a thousand and one double plays and still win going away. Hafner strikes out with two guys on and nobody out- Indians can't recover.

Hafner is slowly turning into Russell Branyan.

Leaving Betancourt in was a much bigger mistake than not sending Lofton home. Dude looked gassed to me.

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0710/red.sox.win.alcs/images/ox-B(2).jpg

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0710/red.sox.win.alcs/images/77206334(6).jpg

http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/06/2007-06-13RushLimbaugh.jpg

http://creamjoints.blogspot.com/2007/10/co.html