Mike Trout needs his own thread

http://metsmerizedonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/sports-illustrated-253x300.png

he is now at 9.4 rwar for the season. his closest competitor is robinson cano, who has played 21 more games, at 6.2. fwar is a bit more circumspect, but still gives him significant lead.

he leads the majors in stolen bases, runs scored and ops+

randal grichuk, whom the angels took one pick ahead of trout, is having a nice season in high-a ball.

this fucking guy.

he's probably not gonna top A-Rods ridiculous age 20 season but yeah this is getting stupid

He's only not going to top it cuz he missed a month (although to be fair to A-Rod he only played 146 games it looks like.)

Totally proves the draft is a complete crapshoot.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/mike-trout-is-first-player-to-reach-10-war-since-barry-bonds

TROUT

...and a triple to go with his homer after two AB. Geez, if he hits for the cycle, you'll have to disown him.

:p

prefer 2 more HRs

he really is pretty good
i mean, he is definitely probably one of the nice surprises this season, roy material

he's in the running for rookie of the year for sure

Ruth of the Year

does he have a nickname yet? we need to get on this. his last name is Trout for crissake, this should be low hanging fruit

Rainbow and Dizzy are taken

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutthroat_trout

too bad he couldn't have played in the same outfield as tim salmon.

or rogers smallmouth-bass

30th dinger

first 30/30 rookie

Top of the 6th, he's 4-4 with a double, triple, and 3 RBI--off Felix. Unbelievable.

MIKE TROUT	

Month	      AL WAR Rank
May	      1
June	      1
July	      1
August	      1
September     2

he's really fallen off

The Los Angeles Angels renewed the contract of AL Rookie of the Year Mike Trout for $510,000. The salary is $20,000 above the major league minimum.

seems a bit like leaving a $1 tip on a $100 check. there must be ways of saving money that don't involve insulting your best player

every player goes through this and they already gave him 1+ mil just to sign. he'll buy a few yachts once he hits arb.

but don't mind me i have trouble treating baseball contracts with the appropriate relativity

If B-R numbers are right, it doesn't look like recent Rookies of the Year have gotten massive bumps in their next season.

I don't know that throwing him an extra $500k this season buys any more loyalty when the time comes for his $200mn contract in a few seasons.

scratch that - http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/4/4062060/mike-trout-salary-los-angeles-angels

increases were quite a bit larger, just not in raw $$$

i'm sure he'll do v. well in arbitration and that he'll go wherever the money is when he's a free agent. if the angels had a policy of paying ppl the absolute minimum they had to, then fine. the extra $20k is weird tho.

it's obviously in trout's best interests to play hard and everything. it just seems like a bit more might be warranted in an effort to keep your best player happy and feeling valued.

http://www.billjamesonline.com/mike_trout_runs__games/

The record that Mike Trout could threaten is the post-WWII tally for runs scored: 152, collected by Jeff Bagwell in 2000. And Trout could be the first player to score more runs than games played since Rickey Henderson accomplished the feat in 1985.

My first bold prediction for 2013? That he does one or the other. Mike Trout with either score 152+ runs in 2013, or he’ll score more runs than games played.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20105

jeez, look at the way he rounds first in that second clip. amazing.

Bonifacio gif linked in the comments is actually an even crazier looking play.

will return to LF when Bourjos is activated

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/5/31/4383614/mike-trout-center-field-left-field-mike-scioscia

i posted that in the angels thread the other day :(

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

B-R has him -9 runs in the field so far!

i meant to say OF in the previous post btw, he played left and center iirc

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:11 AM (6 days ago)

An attempt to break this down:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/36800/why-are-trouts-defensive-numbers-so-bad

Conclusion: don't expect it to last.

thanks, i was just about to ask if anything's been written about that!

75mph changeup = line-drive HR to left

four hits today

Noticed that he's almost exactly where he was last year in terms of basic slash stats:

2012 -- .326/.399/.564
2013 -- .320/.399/.560

His HR and SB are down a little, 2B and 3B way up.

why is there no youtube compilation of mike trout triples?

4-4 with 2 walks last night, up to .331/.412/.568 and leads fWAR by 0.4 wins

18 walks in his last 10 games

David Cameron @DCameronFG
Through age-21 season, by wRC+, Mike Trout is the best hitter of all time, edging out Foxx and Williams.

David Cameron @DCameronFG
That's just hitting. No baserunning, no fielding, just hitting. Trout has been better than Ted Williams at hitting.

seeing him play next week

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

...

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

Angels have to be trying to lock him up for like decade.

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fangraphs is much kinder, but even they have him as a neutral defender rather than a huge minus.

anyway OPS above 1.000 now - .333/.424/.580

just turned 22 yesterday btw

xp yeah think it’s otm, even a small decline in his abilities & age/mileage etc might show up more given conjunction of those two things

I see he just tied DiMaggio on the career HR list at 361. 600 would seem to be a very good bet if healthy...if.

https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/mike-trout-ties-dimaggio-with-361st-career-hr-it-means-a-lot-1.1964348

he’s going to be an above average player for a while still, but it’s not looking like he’s going to maintain that mays trajectory. which of course was a tough standard to begin with

if he merely ends up next to mantle, rodriguez, and henderson on the leaderboards, that’s not too bad

Yeah. Amazingly enough (amaysingly...rimshot), Mays peaked between 31 and 35: bWARS of 10.5, 10.6, 11.0, 11.2, and 9.0. Very atypical; Trout's curve would seem to be more normal--like Mantle's, who slows down around 31.

DiMaggio now in the rear-view mirror.

Genuinely a great guy.

Trout said players deal with mental issues more than people realize, but now some players have become more comfortable talking about it. That includes A’s reliever Trevor May, who was placed on the injured list with anxiety earlier this season and candidly spoke about his struggles with mental health. Trout’s former teammates Andrelton Simmons and Andrew Heaney have also opened up about mental health struggles in the past.

“You really don't see it when the guys are out there just playing, especially on a baseball field playing the game we love,” Trout said. “You don't know what's happening at home. You don't know what other guys are going through. It’s just about being able to just reach out and talk to people. I think it makes you feel comfortable. And to be able to get help is a big thing.”

https://theathletic.com/4592076/2023/06/08/angels-mike-trout-streaky/?source=user_shared_article

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/pondering-mike-trouts-sluggish-start/

jaffe looks at a lot of the same stuff I mentioned

Angels announce that Mike Trout is going on the IL with a left hamate fracture.

That’s a massive blow for the Angels, who are already dealing with many injuries.

Jo Adell has been called up.

— Sam Blum (@SamBlum3) July 4, 2023

:(

Not much of a bright spot, but that would at least explain the year he's having (as opposed to the start of a sharp decline).

If you type too fast and Google "make trout," here's what you get:

https://www.google.com/search?q=make+trout&rlz=1C1SQJL_enCA905CA905&oq=make+trout&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l5j46i340i512l2j46i512j0i512.1599j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

happy 32nd

here we go

Report: Angels open to trading Mike Trout if he wants out

Like a guy who's wrongly convicted and gets released on DNA evidence 30 years later. (Absurd hyperbole, obviously--he's been well compensated.)

I mean, I don’t know if I’d want to trade for his contract at this point

I’d take him

Steve Cohen has entered the chat

The Angels' incompetence is truly breathtaking.

this is great

Over several years I spent ~40 hours at Angels games watching Mike Trout and nothing else. Here's what I learned: https://t.co/Rx2hwsBnbE

— Sam Miller (@SamMillerBB) January 31, 2024

thx for that

hit two HRs yesterday, the second of which went 473 feet

Mike Trout swiping this sweeper about an inch above the plate for a triple - unreal!

https://www.mlb.com/app/atbat/video/justin-slaten-in-play-no-out-to-mike-trout

The sweeper is not an easy one to hit
https://i.postimg.cc/vZMpMHxb/IMG-9183.jpg

currently on pace for 68 HR and 94 rbi

lmao

lfg

i hate it

if he were already at the 104 bWAR as we re-calculated given better injury luck, that would move him to 175, second all time. It's still short of Ruth (182.6) but really close.

https://i.imgur.com/zYo9eSG.jpeg

Yeah, it really really really sucks. Maybe back in 6-8 weeks

According to this doctor, a realistic timetable for a "meniscectomy" is 4-6 weeks. https://t.co/B4bLXwoCZy

— Jeff Fletcher (@JeffFletcherOCR) May 3, 2024

as much as there is a lot of what-if w/Trout, he's still a pretty formidable player when healthy and as a hitter there's more room for adjustment as he ages even after dealing w/many injuries. there's time for him to add to his stats (he's not old!) It's going to be interesting to watch what happens. i think overall Bryce Harper has probably been more of a what-if but the #winning has helped distract from that.

of course these guys are both (*probably* in Bryce's case) HOFers, unlike other worst-case what-ifs like Mark Prior.

Trout should also move to 1B

hush your mouth

the way this guy's career has turned out is a total nightmare

it’s very sad! but honestly as a guy who’s flown under the radar his whole career despite being the best player of his generation…it fits

I wouldn't make the argument myself..... but if someone did make the argument that the tail-end of Trouts career validates the use of doping for post-30yo baseball players with a +30war line I would definitely sit down and listen to their reasons

I am at the bargaining stage of grief

Angels star Mike Trout met with the team yesterday to discuss his health outlook and potential means of keeping him healthier moving forward. The longtime center fielder now tells reporters that he’ll be shifting to right field in an effort to keep him on the field with more regularity.

Slow start (honestly, I forgot he was back). I had it in my mind that he was perennially a slow starter, but checked his splits and that's not true: historically, April is one his best months. He has hit three home runs. I really hope he comes back.

Did he finish last year injured? I know he’s also adapting to right field and there’s been some clips of him not being great there.

Statcast thinks he's been very unlucky:

his IRL slash:
.179/.316/.436 = .751

vs. his X-slash:
.273/.414/.636 = 1.050

I think he finished the year injured, yes; hitting in bad luck happens, so that's encouraging.

Timely revive Clem.

While his March was bad, his 8 games in April are tracking very well:

.258/.395/.774 = 1.169

5 HRs, 8R, 9 RBI, 1 SB, 7BB:5K

And he hit another homer this afternoon.

Two, actually...which I see you already added.

I’ve seen trout play twice now (iirc) and he’s hit his third home run in front of me

K3vin k. Linden Roupp reveal. Nice start regardless

I’ve seen trout play twice now (iirc) and he’s hit his third home run in front of me

― brony james (k3vin k.), Saturday, April 19, 2025 8:01 PM (yesterday)

dude only has 3 hits in the last week, you're pretty lucky!

Looks like he might be hurt again.

Trout told reporters following Wednesday’s contest that he’s already feeling better and expressed optimism that he’ll be ready for Thursday’s series opener against the Tigers. He also noted that he’s already undergone some preliminary testing, which didn’t reveal anything serious.

10-day IL, though.

:(

lol that's some serious gaslighting.

at least trout doesn’t have a history of taking much longer than you’d think to come back from a seemingly minor injury