2012 ALCS: Yankees vs. Tigers

Coachmen vs. Crucifucks

Chic vs. Inner City.

Jason Beck ‏@beckjason
#Tigers rotation for ALCS is official. Doug Fister will pitch Game 1, followed by Sanchez, Verlander, then Scherzer.

Go tigers!

Tigers with Mondale '84-style enthusiasm

Tigers

fat guys vs old fat guys

Team that fired Billy Martin once vs. team that fired Billy Martin more than once.

I can't believe that both leagues' CS ended up being the most boring matchups out of all the cool and strange possibilities that we started with.

I checked this with a quick scan, so I may have missed something, but I think it's the first year ever where the last three Series winners are all in the CS (and the other, the Tigers, made it to the CS last year). So, ditto.

you know what's crazy super bonkers

these four teams are all top 10 in payroll and they beat four teams that are bottom 12 in payroll

isn't that just nutty

not much more than coincidence (cept maybe Yanks' expensive vet bench incl Ibanez).

fwiw per BP, Delmon Young hits Pettitte like a sonofagun.

Obvious, but I don't think the Tigers can win unless Cabrera starts hitting. He was AWOL against Oakland in four out of the five games--they got by without him in a low-scoring series, but I can't see that happening again.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

"whos producing this, thornton wilder?"

Interesting strike zone.

First and third pitches to Jeter in exact same spot, well within zone. One ball, one strike.

not a good trend here, tigres

LHOL

Load bases, let Jhonny take over.

lol @ the shift driving the color commentator crazy because omg someone hit one thru it sabermetrics is invalidated guys like us who know baseball etc

Speared by a diving Jeter. (Yeah, the sabermetrics rant was silly.)

alright

Chad Finn ‏@GlobeChadFinn
Side-effect of the partnership with the Bleacher Report. RT @SteveRushin TBS graphic just spelled his name Willie Mayes. #whatever

i thought Mig never got walked cuz of Prince's mighty 'protection'

only two runs?

Return of the Infante Yips

Detroit counter-yips

Smoltz! "Wish there was a stat for the most boos on a team that keeps playing in October."

the crowd reaction shot captured a dude booing and a lady yawning, kudos tbs

got out of it, again

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5IcoirCUAE8r80.jpg:large

per Smoltz 10 minutes ago, what a terrible job by Fister, trying to be "heroic" and not allowing any runs.

what a fucking idiot.

Prior to Granderson's most recent K:

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
As of this moment, the quartet of Cano, Swisher, A-Rod and Granderson are 9-for-85 in the postseason.

So, yeah -- why was Lowe allowed to start the eighth?

Lowe is an extremely nice guy, i delivered a car or two when he was a Dodger.

Because their real relievers still haven't recovered from the extra inning games vs the O's?

DELMON YOUNG HAS PASSED HANK GREENBERG AS THE TIGERS' ALL-TIME POST-SEASON HR LEADER

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
@Rosenberg_Mike hes got to be pleased to be ahead of greenberg

Legitimate Heyman zing.

Greenberg all World Series, gtfo mixed stats

On that note, congratulations to Derek Jeter for his 200th post-season hit.

Lol at Delmon Young being anything good. What a bust of a #1 draft pick.

lol the guy tossing the foul ball to the kid and the kid throwing it back

Don't think I'll ever understand defensive indifference. "Here's a bonus chance to make an out." Nah, we're good.

we're not really in the market for double plays so just goto 2nd nbd

o christ

save sitch now, get wit it jose

cool 300ft hr Yankee stadium

cano missed a meatball

The hits keep coming:

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale
Arod says he is coming back to #Yankees and won't waive no trade clause

Phil Coke is feeling it.

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=C4&Dato=20121018&Kategori=SPORTS02&Lopenr=121018073&Ref=TS&NewTbl=1&MaxW=620&Border=0&Detroit-8-N-Y-1-s-sweep-World-Series-Tigers

haw

The A-Rod era is over.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

congratulation tigers

― --bob marley (lag∞n)

congratulations yankees you mean

'grats to the tigers, will be pulling for them in the next series

I am so goofily happy over this.

there's a second-rate team gonna put their name on that trophy

yankees had 22 hits in the four games and made 21 pitching changes.

they never led, hit .157, and scored in just three of the series' 39 innings.

the tigers' starters gave up two runs on 14 hits in 27 1/3 innings.

valverde allowed four runs on three hits in 2/3 of an inning; the rest of the tiger bullpen gave up 0 runs on 5 hits over 11 innings.

a++

If it were to go 7, are the Tigers thinking of pushing Verlander for 1-4-7? Or would it be two starts and available for game 7?

Why on earth are you thinking about this?

clemenza is posting from 5 hours ago

Saves me from thinking about what's going on in Ohio and Florida.

it's what clemenza does

Saves me from thinking about what's going on in Ohio and Florida.

Fair enough.

The [Illitch] family was presented the key to the City of Detroit by Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick on February 14, 2008.[13] They are the fifth recipients of this award in the history of the city, the others being actor James Earl Jones, neurosurgeon Benjamin Carson, former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein[14] and Pittsburgh Steeler Jerome Bettis.[15]

It didn't seem like that strange a question. I bet I can find someone who writes about baseball for a living who asks the same question sometime in the next 24 hours.

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo
The Tigers 5-game postseason winning streak vs Yankees is the longest for any team against them in MLB history.

More significant might be the fact that the Tigers have eliminated the Yankees in three consecutive playoff appearances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0w2QEmOOIc

Joe Suck comparing NYY's position to the Red Sox' = typical idiocy

The [Illitch] family was presented the key to the City of Detroit by Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick on February 14, 2008.[13] They are the fifth recipients of this award in the history of the city, the others being actor James Earl Jones, neurosurgeon Benjamin Carson, former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein[14] and Pittsburgh Steeler Jerome Bettis.[15]
― Andy K, Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:04 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just read this list out loud to my gf and it's even funnier if you read it out loud

FUCK YEAH TIGERS!!!

Wicked sick win.

NO LILLY

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1254941/coke.gif

Man, if I were to cross paths with Phil Coke tonight, I would buy him a reasonable amount of whatever he wanted.

Illitch is weird, but still better than right wing kook Tom Monaghan.

Monaghan is much closer to Saddam Hussein than he is to Jerome Bettis.

"I bet I can find someone who writes about baseball for a living who asks the same question sometime in the next 24 hours."

That's what we should all aspire to. Asking the same questions that Bill Plaschke will ask sometime in the next 24 hours.

Coke entered the Comerica Park press room Wednesday afternoon and engaged in a stream-of-unconsciousness monologue that had media members scrambling to hit their retweet buttons. At one point a reporter prefaced a question by acknowledging that Coke was a professional athlete.

"Thank you, man!'' Coke responded, before the question was even complete.

When asked what thoughts flashed through his mind as he threw the climactic 3-2 breaking pitch to Ibanez in Game 4, Coke replied, "Don't hit it, don't hit it, don't hit it, don't hit it.''

philip coke otm

"Thank you, man!'' Coke responded, before the question was even complete.

i approve of phil coke based on this quote alone

That's what we should all aspire to. Asking the same questions that Bill Plaschke will ask sometime in the next 24 hours.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF)

Yes, Alex--as the Tigers move into the World Series, I posted some idle speculation on how they might use the guy generally regarded as the best pitcher in baseball. About an hour earlier, you had tried to argue that a hideously lopsided series wasn't actually all that lopsided. One of these seems eminently sillier than the other.

An argument that included my new favourite phrase: "one bad call from barely losing."

haha that last one is a clean hit

"About an hour earlier, you had tried to argue that a hideously lopsided series wasn't actually all that lopsided."

Hah no this was a hideously lopsided series. I was just pointing out that it was totally unprecedented (even in recent history) and the first two games were actually pretty close ones.

Very clean on the "one bad call" hah.

Anyway good clean fun with the Plaschke thing. I'm sure the use on short rest thing will be brought up quite a bit even by non-bonehead sportswriters.

Don't know if this guy self-identifies as a bonehead or non-bonehead, but in a seven-game series, he sees two starts and available:

http://motorcitybengals.com/2012/10/18/world-series-schedule-and-tigers-projected-starting-pitching-rotation/

Verlander's a throwback, but with Detroit's other starters pitching so well, I can't see that they'd feel the need to push him unnecessarily. Anyone besides Schilling in 2001 get three starts since those Koufax-Gibson-Lolich series of the mid-late '60s?

Jack Morris in '91. Schilling might be the only one in the wild card era.

The way the Tigers have been pitching, there's no reason to overwork Verlander.

wau, schilling threw over 300 innings in 2001 incl playoffs. from what i can tell, that's the only time that's happened since 1988 when hershiser and dave stewart did it. kevin brown came close in 98 w/296.1

Yeah, we were talking about that on a trivia thread ... Johnson came close in '01 too. I knew about Hershiser, but not Dave Stewart!

Verlander and Halladay would have had a good shot in the past couple of years had their teams gone to the WS.

Stewart came close in '90 too -- 296 IP

291.2 for Smoltz in '96

Totally forgot that the Jays gave Stieb three starts in the '85 LCS (first seven-game LCS ever), opting not to give a start to Jim Clancy, who'd pitched fairly well during the season. Stieb was great: 2-1, 3.10, 11 hits in 20.1 innings. If you just look at the boxscore, you'd probably think, "They pushed their luck in game 7, and he fell apart in the sixth." If you were watching, it wasn't that simple. Down 2-1, Stieb was facing Sundberg with two outs and the bases loaded; Sundberg hit what absolutely looked like a routing flyball to right, the wind kept pushing it and pushing it, and he ended up with a bases-clearing triple (followed by Jim Acker coming in and giving up the fourth run). I felt at the time they should have given Clancy a start, but if Stieb had gotten that flyball, he was in position to win three.

"routine"...

Anyway, in no way saying Verlander should start three games the way Scherzer, Fister, and Sanchez are pitching.

Had to pause the game and lie down to recover from this idiocy from Rick Sutcliffe last night.

Re his surprise at Granderson not starting
He's homered the last 3 times that Sabathia has defeated the Tigers (big pause) I call that a trend

Pure gold there.

related (check the "geniuses" link):

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/10/18/3522494/cub-fans-soon-to-envy-the-dead

Posnanski says it best as usual, this sums up how I was feeling when I said it was one of the worst playoff defeats ever. He goes too far with the Jeter hero worship/symbolism, but most of this is OTM:

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39913534/

florid, otm, packed with nelson-laughs

Line that kills me in the Posnanski piece: "It was a time when you didn't have to re-sign Mickey Mantle or Whitey Ford or Yogi Berra -- they, like Richard Gere, had no place else to go." I have no idea what that means! (The Richard Gere half, I mean.)

"Anyone besides Schilling in 2001 get three starts since those Koufax-Gibson-Lolich series of the mid-late '60s?"

Me, a couple of days ago. It's been ages--Chris Carpenter had three last year. (Albeit with a rain-delay assist.)

they, like Richard Gere, had no place else to go." I have no idea what that means! (The Richard Gere half, I mean.)

see: An Officer and a Gentleman

Okay--haven't seen it, believe it or not. Being Richard Gere, I was filling in all sorts of intriguing possibilities.