Hot Stove 13-14

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david price thinks he'll be traded

who has the motive and prospects to acquire (two years of) him?

Seattle may target Ellsbury! good luck?

that'll fix things!

rangers, yankees likely interested in someone to police parties

Helpful:

http://twitter.com/MLBRosterMoves

Kendrick (Birmingham)

If you're Frank Wren, what do you try to do with B.J. Upton and Uggla? Hold and hope or find a way to move at least one of them, even if you have to eat a lot of cash?
Klaw (1:55 PM)

I'd hold on to them and hope one reestablishes his value next year. By the way, why do we hear criticisms of Billy Beane for Oakland's early playoff exits, but none of Frank Wren? They haven't won a playoff series since 2001, and under his tenure, they have spent a lot of money for little or no return, including the two you cited, Nate McLouth, and Derek Lowe. If Wren had had a book written about him, would he face the same level of scrutiny that Beane does?

well he can run for governor now

http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/9839958/texas-rangers-ceo-nolan-ryan-steps-down

@Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: Leyland stepping down as #Tigers manager. Told team after end of ALCS. Team has called news conference for 11:30 AM ET.

No surprise.

Would have been great to get Francona.

Timely, given this Neyer column:

"No manager is perfect. But this team that lost to the Red Sox in a generally close series was exactly the team that general manager Dave Dombrowski designed: long on starters and hitters, short on just about everything else. I've got a hard time blaming Leyland for a team that played exactly like it was supposed to play."

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/10/20/4857258/alcs-2013-detroit-tigers-red-sox-season-review

His managerial record prior to taking the Detroit job was sub-.500. He was .540 with Detroit, which left him at .506.

Would have been great to get Francona.

it's cool -- just give cleveland a low-level prospect for him

Who's available?

Acta?

Detroit becomes the most attractive managerial opening, right?

DUSTY

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/danny-knobler/24116721/gibson-ausmus-could-be-candidates-to-replace-leyland-with-tigers

Leyland is likely to push for the job to go to either Gene Lamont or Lloyd McClendon

Noooooo

"During the playoffs, my wife and I were in church, and I told her that I let one of those silent fluffies of mine, what should I do, and she said, 'Get a new battery for your hearing aid.'" -- Leyland just now

@OzzieGuillen
great press confernce jim leyland very classic man was my first tird base coach in the big league

Jim Leyland, Classic or Tird?

Leyland is likely to push for the job to go to either Gene Lamont or Lloyd McClendon

the failed pirates manager cabal strikes again

dodgers sign 26yo cuban middle infielder alexander guerrero to a four-year, $28m deal, conceivably putting a crimp in robbie cano's bargaining power

Damn man, Leyland has a nice voice!

http://bcove.me/n2ftpy7e

That's great. (I wonder if anyone circumspectly pointed out to him that the Stylistics weren't on Motown...)

Or that Marvin Gaye is dead.

Or that I posted a link to that in the 2009 Tigers thread (huh).

It seems that Brandon Phillips will probably be on the way out of Cincy. I got to figure the Braves might be the obvious place for him to end up, being that BP is from Georgia, the Braves have Uggla to send packing and plenty of prospects to add to the deal. Braves and Reds have also done a couple of minor trades in the past 2 seasons, so those clubs GMs seem to deal.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2013/10/16/john-fays-wednesday-wanderings/

he's an upgrade over uggla i guess, but i don't think four years of mid-30s BP is really that enticing -- pretty noticeable decline despite the 100 rbis this year

also he seems a poor fit for the party police

It would be the best 2b/SS defensive middle infield in the NL most likely, if it did.

that might be the case if i played 2B for the braves too

Bobby V to replace Leyland? Please God, it's me, Margaret.

oh fuck off that book title

tbf i have pretty good range, but with a sax/knoblauch arm xps

for the Reds, it's their pitching coach! (who I wd not have been able to name)

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9861173/reports-cincinnati-reds-promote-pitching-coach-bryan-price-manager

manager roundups! (makes me think of Red River)

Copy-cat business that it is, baseball seems to have strayed away from the recycle system that once guided the managerial merry-go-round and uncovered an era in which pretty much anything goes. It was a shock to some that the Cards followed a championship season and replaced the legendary Tony La Russa with the unproven Matheny, but they felt (correctly, it turns out) that he was the right man at the right time.

Indeed, experience is increasingly less a factor than the ability to integrate to the plans and personalities in place, and that's why some of the names being bandied about for these excellent assignments are not exactly household names.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/anthony-castrovince-open-managerial-positions-may-not-go-to-high-profile-candidates?ymd=20131021&content_id=63205526&vkey=news_mlb

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/10/22/4865588/mlb-manager-rumors-eric-wedge-tigers-cal-ripken

paul molitor joins twins coaching staff

pitching coach?

Coletti fired some of Mattingly's guys. I really don't understand what they're doing there.

Sounds like chaos. I dont think Ned is in charge anymore. Its Kasten.

John Harper @NYDNHarper
Person close to Kasten says Dodgers' issue with Mattingly is in-game decisions: "All he knows is what he learned from Joe (Torre).'' Ouch.

it is being suggested that the elevation of the reds' pitching coach may lead to aroldis starting

giants agree to two-year extension with timmy pending physical

Sabean trolling MLB?

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2013/10/22/4870598/tim-lincecum-giants-contract-details-35-million

Trolling MLB with the exception of free-agent SPs, obv.

giants agree to two-year extension with timmy pending physical

what, he is not going to the Dodgers?

Lincecum gets $17 million next year and $18 million in 2015, along with a full no-trade provision.

they paid way too much for him, he is no way worth that type of money.

"it is being suggested that the elevation of the reds' pitching coach may lead to aroldis starting"

Bryan Price was pretty positive about it in spring training last year.

If Chapman starting happens, it will be interesting to see how Bryan Price and the Reds juggle the innings ceiling that both Chapman and Tony Cingrani will be facing next year.

I guess the Giants would know better than anyone else what exactly has been wrong with Lincecum and how to fix him. Still, that's a crazy amount of money for a guy who's been below replacement level for the past two years.

I don't get it!

pretty strange. a lot to pay for an innings eater.

looks like the giants GM lost some sort of bet at a bar

i just assumed he didn't want to get consumed by massive australian bugs

are greinke's quotes taken out of context or is he autistic?

i mean, he's a bright guy making a great deal of money. it's not really a stretch to say, 'well, no one's looking forward to the long flight/jet lag at all, but _______,' and there are any number of ways to shit on bud without simultaneously shitting on a wee continent

based on everything i've read it's pretty likely that greinke is actually autistic, yes

also playing games in foreign countries is stupid let's not forget that

tru

especially canadia

they're practically communists.

anyways, this headline came up on my yahoo fantasy feed:
"Josh Beckett continues to feel good"
well isn't that nice.

haha

guy deals w/ some pretty serious social anxiety disorder, was apparently a big part of the reason he wouldn't move to a major market (until uhh the angels and then the dodgers i guess). def has an autistic feel to it and if there is any position in any sport where that kinda brain makes sense...

Which are craziest between pitchers and hockey goaltenders?

i had that exact conversation a few days ago! i think we decided to agree that they were different kinds of crazy. altho ryan miller might say otherwise afaicr.

Lefty relievers are surely a class of their own?

Brisbee picks worst winter moves

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/3/5/5474424/worst-baseball-trades-signings-2014-offseason

Rick Ankiel, retired.

:(

Sources: Free-agent LHP OIiver Perez close to multi-year deal with DBacks.

what a world we live in

thought he retired at least a year ago

he's only 32!

Sandy Koufax is a younger "32"

The Cardinals will sign Matt Carpenter to a six-year, $52MM extension, locking up their star infielder through his age-33 season. The contract breakdown is as follows: Carpenter will receive a $1.5MM signing bonus, $1MM in 2014, and then salaries of $3.5MM, $6.25MM, $9.75MM, $13.5MM and $14.5MM. In 2020, the Cardinals will have an $18.5MM option on his services, with a $2MM buyout.

rip rick. you'll always have the first home run of 2013.

santana nearing deal with blue jays or orioles

the suspense is killing me!!

seriously jays ownership, just overspend instead of losing him - you are rich and santana is more valuable to us than probably any other team, we are so close to the playoffs. i can see jays 2nd WILDCARD CHAMPS merch making money this city is so desperate for success

dude's really breaking our balls.

i'm not sure i even want him

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/cardinals-sign-aledmys-diaz.html

heh, not sure if kozma had heard of the deal yet but just a bit ago he made an error at SS that kicked off a 5-run inning

Atlanta announced this morning that they have signed right-hander Ervin Santana to a one-year deal that is reportedly worth $14.1MM -- the exact amount of the qualifying offer he rejected back in November.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/braves-sign-ervin-santana.html

$0.1MM more than he had from the J's on sunday.

oops; someone on the BP podcast today (maybe a beat writer) said that even in the wake of the injuries, "I really don't see them signing Ervin Santana."

Reading Stoeten is the only relief I have from Rogers-Jays BS

glad o's didn't sign him, glad jays didn't sign him and have it bite us in the ass

also if his main goal is to raise his stock in a year of course he's gonna pick the braves

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/tigers-to-extend-miguel-cabrera.html

The deal will be for ten years and just under $300MM, reports ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick (Twitter links). That tally would include the two years for which Cabrera is already under contract, apparently meaning that the new money would land at eight years and around $250MM.

If Cabrera actually lands over $240MM in new money, the deal would be no worse than the third-largest total package in MLB history (and the biggest commitment made to anyone other than Alex Rodriguez). For reference, the largest free agent deals for first basemen have been the ten years and $240MM given to Albert Pujols and the nine-year, $215MM Prince Fielder contract.

why do teams do this

David Cameron's amusement

miraculously getting out of the fielder contract and then turning around and tying yourself into one that's just likely just as bad or worse is pretty hilarious

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 12m
Miguel Cabrera extension is 8 years and roughly $248 million, source confirms. Works out to AAV ~ $31MM during the extension years.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 12m
With that, Miguel Cabrera (at $31MM during the extension years) will surpass Clayton Kershaw for the highest AAV in MLB.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 10m
Miguel Cabrera's total guarantee is therefore 10 years and ~$292 million. This is through 2023.

i wonder what it's like to know you're about to make $292 million over the next 10 years, no matter what you actually do

somewhere between pretty good and awesome.

imagine knowing you could own 15% of an unproven kickstarter-launched virtual reality startup <3

imagine you could be the MAJORITY owner of, like, the A's or something

David Cameron's amusement

hehe, and like clockwork:

Miguel Cabrera's Terrible and Understandable Contract

We can talk all we want about the folly of signing Cabrera through his age-40 season, but perhaps more relevantly, the Tigers just signed Cabrera through Ilitch’s age-93 season.

God, that's insane. It would have been insane coming off the Triple Crown; based on the last month or two of 2014, he could be physically done within a year or two. I mean, I've sure he's been given a clean bill of health, but who knows.

Is there not a GM who can figure out the simple speculative math that would pay each player no more than his value (in a strictly contributing-to-wins sense) for each year of his contract? Have these guys really not figured that out yet? God.

Sure, they could do that easily - but then someone else would say fuckit and offer him more.

If the Tigers win a World Series or two with Cabrera, that will likely justify (financially) Cabrera's excess salary on the back end.

Is there not a GM who can figure out the simple speculative math that would pay each player no more than his value (in a strictly contributing-to-wins sense) for each year of his contract? Have these guys really not figured that out yet? God.

― Andy K, Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:00 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

$/WAR doesn't actually apply in real life where revenues aren't equal and there are no salary caps

dollars are worth less in detroit than they are in oakland

full circle:

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/3/31/5569138/robinson-cano-yankees-fan