do you think mordy might one day make aliyah to a settlement?

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hurting, do u like my birthright pic?

Mordy , Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

is it true that there are religious jews in the settlements? would it therefore be boring to be surrounded by religious jews all the time, especially at weekends?

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

just thinking through the logistics before you buy a tract of land

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

JNF has planted more than 240 million trees and developed more than 250,000 acres of land since 1901, greening the landscape of Israel and preserving vital ecosystems. JNF’s forestry expertise and commitment to environmental protection makes it one of only two countries to end the 20th century with more trees than it had at the start.

Mordy , Sunday, 17 November 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

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System, Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

are you still on about this

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link

i'm thinking about making a trip in april - not permanent tho

Mordy , Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

yeah im sure thats what you all say at the border

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

lol as if - who do u think is running the border?

Mordy , Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

if you can tell me without googling who ran the border at ballyshannon i'll let you have that point otherwise meh we all have our little local battles i guess

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link

i could've sworn she died like a decade ago

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 9 January 2014 05:35 (ten years ago) link

Naturally, I googled. Wtf?!

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System, Friday, 10 January 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

if ariel sharon dies within the next 48 hours then YES [X]

if he outlives it then that is a sign that NO [X] the fierce old testament g-d has enough emissaries in israel for the time being

that settles it

Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link

lol punz

Mordy , Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

whats an aliyah to a setetlement... please dont use any fancy jew words when explaining to me

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

a shtetlment

Flame Out at Jagbans (imago), Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTu_ZdcBCo

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 January 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/01/29/obituaries/20130129ArielSharonObit-slide-YW1Q/20130129ArielSharonObit-slide-YW1Q-superJumbo.jpg

Sharon talking to Rabin - Peres sitting to the side

Mordy , Saturday, 11 January 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

the highest income tax rate in israel is 52%, comparable to the netherlands

Joyeux animaux de la misère (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUDaLuwUiX8

Mordy , Sunday, 20 April 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUDaLuwUiX8

Mordy , Sunday, 20 April 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39W3oCzw4SQ

Mordy , Sunday, 20 April 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/U70c7ak.jpg

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

lol

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 May 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpZNRyMCIAETZZW.jpg:large

Mordy, Friday, 6 June 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link

who are they

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 June 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link

the middle guy is mick jagger

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpPDAFJCAAIb5ab.jpg:large

Mordy, Friday, 6 June 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

want

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/9b4a09_5ff3ed4485f0422c9d0679e149ffa828.jpg

Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

do you think mordy might one day take aaliyah to a settlement?

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

people think her death was just a loss to rnb but it was a loss to delightful wordplay also

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://i.imgur.com/1pSCMJK.jpg

milord z (nakhchivan), Monday, 10 November 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link

wonder if ppl would prfer liberman to bibi

Mordy, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

obama has enough trouble with an asperger case, avigdor would alpha the fuck out of him every single time

milord z (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link

i believe jews should have the right to pray on the temple mount if they want

Mordy, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link

i know if means nothing but one of this week's terror victims shares the same name as my daughter and it is giving me heartache

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

http://www.timesofisrael.com/tel-aviv-dubbed-worlds-smartest-city/

Mordy, Thursday, 20 November 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Intel to spend $550 million in Israel through 2020
http://www.timesofisrael.com/intel-to-spend-550-million-in-israel-through-2020

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

that garbage sodastream story is neatly prefigured by this toaster related stramash at the same university two decades ago instigated by race theorist noel ignatiev

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1992/3/18/no-toaster-subsidy-pito-the-editors/

Enterprise Lesotho (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

So could it be that Chinese food is a manifestation of Jewish life in America? Lee seems to think so. “I would argue that Chinese food is the ethnic cuisine of American Jews. That, in fact, they identify with it more than they do gefilte fish or all kinds of the Eastern Europe dishes of yore.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/why-american-jews-eat-chinese-food-on-christmas/384011/2/

Enterprise Lesotho (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link

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Mordy, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 03:54 (nine years ago) link

From the early days of Saudi–Wahhabi expansion, the crucial element
was to gain submission to the tenets of Wahhabi Islam among the population,
both sedentary and nomadic. This submission led to the creation
of a quasi-tribal confederation with which to conquer further territories in
the absence of an identifiable ‘Saudi tribal confederation’.

Wahhabism provided a novel impetus for political centralisation. Expansion
by conquest was the only mechanism that would permit the
emirate to rise above the limited confines of a specific settlement. With
the importance of jihad in Wahhabi teachings, conquests of new territories
became possible. The spread of the Wahhabi da wa (call), the purification
of Arabia of unorthodox forms of religiosity and the enforcement of the
shari a among Arabian society were fundamental demands of the Wahhabi
movement. The amir of Diriyyah took the Wahhabi reformer, recently
expelled from Uyaynah, under his wing, and accepted these demands.
Wahhabism impregnated the Saudi leadership with a new force, which
proved to be crucial for the consolidation and expansion of Saudi rule.

Enterprise Lesotho (nakhchivan), Thursday, 25 December 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuHhRatCQAAd8eM.jpg

can someone with photoshop superimpose this on an irl map of the united states

сверх (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

daydreaming antisemites should probably transfer their planned new israel to an area of the united states that is less likely to contain native americans and other groups they might purport to care about

сверх (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

https://rosswolfe.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/stalin70th_pppa.jpg

Mordy, Saturday, 30 April 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...
three weeks pass...

http://nypost.com/2016/08/01/amare-stoudemire-i-rejected-nba-offers-to-fulfill-israel-dream/

no word on whether he's moving to judea & samaria

Mordy, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 03:52 (eight years ago) link

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-judoka-yarden-gerbi-takes-home-bronze-at-rio/

Israeli judoka Yarden Gerbi overcame an early loss to win the bronze medal at the Rio Olympics on Tuesday, becoming the first Israeli athlete to win a medal at the 2016 games, and the first Israeli Olympic medalist since windsurfer Shahar Tzuberi took home the bronze in the 2008 games in Beijing.

Gerbi defeated Japan’s Miku Tashiru in the repechage to claim the third place spot in the under-73 kg competition.

Gerbi, 27, and the 2013 world champion in her class, thus became the seventh Israeli athlete in history to be honored on the Olympic podium. She was also only the second woman to do so — the first being judoka Yael Arad, Israel’s first-ever medal winner, who took home the silver in Barcelona 1992.

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 00:21 (eight years ago) link

Didn't see the medal match but she was impressive against the Chinese opponent I saw her beat.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 00:34 (eight years ago) link

i don't know the story behind it but Sae Miyakaya's floor routine was 100% using Kol haolam kulo as music.

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://kavvanah.wordpress.com/2017/04/04/infinite-jihad-rabbi-shagar-on-the-disengagement/

I will try to illustrate the contradiction in the lessons of the war through a discussion regarding who is our enemy.

The Lebanon War was waged against a religious enemy Nasrallah, the Radical Islamic fundamentalist. In this regard, at least externally, we would agree that religious extremism endangers us, being that the secular Arab governments of Jordan and Egypt have signed peace treaties with us.

Yet, conceptualizing the enemy in this way presents a challenge for us, because, as we’ve mentioned above, in the eyes of many secular people, our religious community, at the very least, parts of it, suffers from the same religious extremism. They hold that the resolution to the conflict lies in a movement of secularization that may allow for tolerance and openness, two prerequisites for peace. In truth, those secular pockets of the Arab world are perceived as more moderate and open to the concept of peace.

From this perspective, the connection between the Disengagement and the Lebanon War is the open and inner struggle against secular Israel, which enjoys the support of the secular west in their perceptions of religious extremism.

Yet, it is not so simple to get the full picture here. To wit, for Nasrallah, the state of Israel does not represent a rival religion, but rather the supremely hated secular, colonialist West. As religious people, where do we locate ourselves in all this?

Do we not identify somewhat with Nasrallah’s critiques?

If true, perhaps our enemy is actually secularism? If this is so, the connection between the Disengagement and the war is different. The war is the punishment for the Disengagement. We may rightly ask here if it was not a kind of secular extremism that employed its systems of power against the settlers of Gush Katif and their faith? We may relate to the perpetrators of the Disengagement as agents of a foreign culture ourselves. For many of us, they evince the feeling of “…and we have been exiled from our land and distanced from its [holy] ground”[4] – whether from a practical (the Disengagement) or metaphysical perspective (secularism).

Surely these mixed feelings are quite confusing, and a crucial question that stands before us now is whether the real battle is external – Iran and its proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas, or internal – the struggle against the secular left, and those on the right who have been ensnared in its positions. It is possible that this question stands behind the dispute between the statists (mamlachti’im), who say that we should continue to draft without question and are opposed to disobeying military orders, and those objectors (=sarvanim) who refuse to forget what has happened and for whom joining the army in defense of the state is not automatic.[5]

I think that specifically from this great paradox that a tremendous religious blooming may sprout forth. This contradictory situation is such that on one side Nasrallah depicts a negative, cruel, and perverted religious vision, and yet on the other we stand before a totalizing globalization lacking roots and identity (this too yields tragic results, even if they are generally hidden, and in many ways no less cruel than the fruits of radical religious extremism)

This situation must lead us to a third way, a combination of both messages. We must understand both the failings of secular Israeli culture and the failings of one-dimensional religious fundamentalism that has flourished in our world as well. This will bring us to the ability to transmit a new religious message.

In order to cultivate this message, it is incumbent upon us to break down the dichotomy of choice between warmongering religious extremism and westernizing peace-seeking which is built upon forfeiture of identity and roots. Religious must redeem the message of peace. A new kind of religiosity must develop. On the one hand, rooted in values and on the other hand, prepared to achieve real peace.

To me, it is beyond the shadow of a doubt that at the end we will indeed achieve a ‘religious peace’. This is because the left does not found peace upon deep respect for the religious other, but rather upon a total discount of religion, with the claim that it is the source of the war. The paradox here is that in doing so, the left actually intensifies the conflict. It is specifically here that the Muslim feels threatened, because the peaceniks approach him from the perspective of liberalism and globalization. [The Muslim] senses in this a sophisticated attempt to subjugate his values with western values, including the hegemony of their representative in the region – the State of Israel.

Mordy, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 01:52 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

(senegal and guinea)

Mordy, Friday, 4 August 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

Seeding Controversy: Did Israel Invent the Cherry Tomato?
http://www.annawexler.com/uploads/2/0/2/4/20246021/wexler-gastronomica-2016.pdf

Mordy, Monday, 7 August 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/01/israel-palestinians-us-egypt-saudi-arabia-mahmoud-abbas.html

Meanwhile, some of the ideas that the American team looked into are starting to leak out, explaining why Abbas beat such a hasty exit from the scene. Although they have no formal confirmation, reports about them have started to appear on Al Jazeera's English-language website and various other places. These reports refer mainly to an old plan, already raised a decade ago. Now it seems as if most of the main players in the region, including the US team, are giving this plan another look. This would involve an exchange of territories by three or more parties (perhaps even four or five). What makes it different from prior efforts is that this time, the Egyptians and Saudis are in on it.

At the core of the idea is the creation of a major Sunni-Israel alliance, which would serve as a counterbalance to the victorious Shiite axis, which poses a threat in the north. The basic idea includes an extensive territorial exchange, in which Egypt would cede a piece of the Sinai Peninsula to the Gaza Strip. With this, Gaza's territory would extend southward along the seashore, making it three or four times larger than it currently is. This would make it possible to relieve some of the pressure in Gaza, but it would also shift the balance of power between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

According to this plan, the center of power in the future Palestinian state would be in Gaza, expanded toward the north of Sinai, rather than the West Bank. In exchange for the expanded territories that they would receive in the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians would give up territories in the West Bank, allowing Israel to annex the settlement blocs along with a generous amount of land around them, thereby maintaining some degree of territorial integrity between the various blocs. At the same time, Israel would give Egypt a narrow strip of territory along the lengthy southern border between the two countries. There is also the possibility that Saudi Arabia and Jordan would also participate in these territorial exchanges, with various ideas proposed.

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Maybe there's a better thread for Israel travel talk? couldn't find one...

Aside from reading Catch the Jew, is there anything else I should think about in preparing for my first Israel trip later this year? I'll go for a couple of weeks, mostly in Jerusalem with probably a couple of days in Tel Aviv and in Haifa. It's an academic trip rather than tourism, but there'll be time for sightseeing and obviously eating. Does anyone here have advice on what are good neighborhoods to stay in Jerusalem? I'll want relatively simple access to the Hebrew University, that's my only constraint.

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link

ok I see now that this is on a sub board I've never heard of, so I'll make an ile thread instead

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 30 May 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

Just wait till the conspiracy theory crew hear about this.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link


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