Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

british imperialism was better than most of the alternatives

individualism is in many respects v good

i've got nothing else i can think of, you people are monsters tbh

'cept unregistered maybe, can get behind the secret atheism bit

brown sugar runs rings around superfoods as a topping for oatmeal.

i have brooks brothers glasses

Compulsory parade attendance.

yoga is bullshit

military technology is pretty cool

I am this guy IRL

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it is obnoxious for boys under the age of 13 to have long hair, and an indication that their parents are overindulgent.

today, while at the supermarket, I saw a boy of no more than 10 with a mohawk and felt genuinely incensed.

i like to open a door for a lady

lol, there is definitely this thing that happens in Brooklyn where I see certain longhaired pre-teens and I can just *tell* that they have skateboard dads who encourage them to have it, like it's not even rebellious but actually DL striving by the parents.

I like women.

I don't append "cis" to the male box that I check off on every form.

Cannot abide visible bra straps, even when fashionable

Dogs are outside pets.

Tattoos.

an individual's actions does have something to do w/ their success

not all cultures are equally wonderful and some are bad enough that they should be discouraged

life could be hellish and for many ppl it is so if yours isn't some gratitude is probably in order

nb 1 + 3 might not be internally consistent

Femmephobia is way less useful as a critical concept than misogyny

Self-care is necessary but not thereby radically oppositional

Couching leftist projects in terms of resistance to neoliberalism rather than to capitalism risks a lot of reformist implications

(Not that femmephobia can't be useful in order to talk about, say, biases in specific queer spaces, but it can mystify the conditions that butch and gnc women actually face if applied too generally.)

watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art

that's not a "reveal" per se

I forgot imago had some sort of Sremm beef. Why so much hate?

Marxism is dumb and bad.

Capitalist liberal democracy is the end point of Western civilization, it will never be superseded by a higher/better form of social organization, will only end through collapse.

Men should not have facial hair and people in general should not have messy hair.

xps i don't recall saying that you can hear a soulja boy's influence on chaucer

lol "a soulja boy." the soulja boy's tale

currently at peak hair and beard, this will probably only end by collapse too tbh

sremm beef = just watch their latest video, 'set the roof' and listen to the lyrics, they're just the worst people in earth, i fucking despise literally everything they're doing, it isn't even abrasive in an interesting way

lol crut, one for old-skool ilx that

hir wese y manne ful cranke, tellynge

Femmephobia is way less useful as a critical concept than misogyny

Self-care is necessary but not thereby radically oppositional

Couching leftist projects in terms of resistance to neoliberalism rather than to capitalism risks a lot of reformist implications

― one way street, Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:52 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink]

looooool

women's sports are, in general, less exciting versions of men's sports

http://allproudamericans.com/paimages/does-duck-and-cover-really-work.jpg

I'll watch women's tennis from time to time but yeah

There are too many things that I massively disagree with posted here for it to be worth a fight on any one of them. I'm just wondering why the 'loool' at ows? Because those aren't really conservative standpoints? They kind of are in comparison to a lot of current radical discourse (I agree with all of them, though not entirely with the latter, but again, I kind of feel this thread is meant to be a dumping ground not a discussion ground).

women's sports are, in general, less exciting versions of men's sports

― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:52 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sexual dimorphism of humans def means that a lot of sports are more exciting to watch when men are playing them but otoh a lot of women's sports are less commercialized and therefore less likely to suffer from rampant PED use endemic to men's sports and therefore likely to be more of a clean competition

also crowds at woman's sports tend to be less shitty

(emil.y i was laughing at the extreme relativity necessary to consider those "conservative opinions." i assumed they were posted tongue in cheek so thought i was laughing along with one way street, not at them, and wasn't critiquing the positions themselves)

Can't speak for sciatica but I lol'ed at ows' post bc it requires some, like, wicked fractal definition of conservatism within the queer anticapotalist left. but I get how all those opinions could be uncool rn

liberalism as many of my friends practice it is like a shitty religion that i want no part of.

they think of other people as needing to be saved, by them.
they make penance with speech acts, not real action.
they live their lives in constant guilt.
they live in cities that are only differentiated from other cities by being huge destinations for wealth, then they disavow that wealth while continuing to partake in the lifestyle it provides.
they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%.
they prescribe how other people should be living their own lives.
they say things that have no meaning other than to reveal to others that they are members in this very sensitive club of good people.
it's nothing but performative.

Lol got xp'd

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

xps to sciatica and flopson - yeah, both of those reasons are basically fair enough. I think I inhabit so many circles where these are topics for fierce debate that I took it w/ a completely straight face!

watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art

― imago,

links?

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

― Philip Nunez,

best Cold War president if you look past his championing of covert ops

just watch their latest video, 'set the roof' and listen to the lyrics, they're just the worst people in earth, i fucking despise literally everything they're doing

Lj on rap always sounds like thinly veiled racist uncle 'i like blk ppl...who pull up their pants' lol

There was some self-directed irony in my post (like, as a queer trans woman and a marxist, I realize I occupy a different milieu than some of you), but I do actually hold the positions in it, and they're generally unpopular in radical circles; but as e.mily said, this thread seems "like a dumping ground not a discussion ground," so I'll stay out of the rae sremmurd discourse.

*emil.y, I mean

if hating on vicious misogyny, shit beats and two little soi-disant alpha male fuckers is racist then

never listened to rae sremmurd but i see his/her/their name everywhere

just read the lyrics to set the off and stopped here:

Now let's fill up her head and let's see if she chokes

it's fashionable to call anything (thinly veiled) racism these days (oh my conservative opinion i guess)

Bill O'Reilly also quotes lyrics as if they made sense removed from arrangements.

if hating on vicious misogyny, shit beats and two little soi-disant alpha male fuckers is racist then

― imago,

you just wrote hating "on."

if you are comparing me to bill o reilly you should say so instead of hinting at it

Eh.. all coffee beans come from the same handful of places, and tastes are down to preference. Do you prefer it black? With sugar and/or milk? Light/dark? The main difference lies is in how the beans are roasted, how fresh they are, how they are prepared and then brewed. My issue with French coffee was their strong preference for dark roasts and their old fashioned brewing methods. There were two places in Paris that served great coffee and they were both light or medium roast V60 drip places that looked like they were teleported straight from the PNW. I wasn't a fan of Italian coffee either, but that was down to the fact that I just don't care for espresso or espresso-based drinks. I like 12oz of black drip coffee - preferably in a cup with a lid that I can sip on for like 40 minutes without it getting cold. I'm not saying that's the ultimate way to drink coffee, but just my favorite.

Out of all of the places I've been I think Taipei was my favorite for coffee. Also one of the only places I've visited that is a producer of beans.

I feel like people saying US coffee is bad are talking about 20 years ago, there's super good independent coffee shops in any city of reasonable size

Agreed, but the cool thing in Italy is that any cafe/bar catering to morning workers on almost any block will give you really solid espresso or whatever for like 2 euros or less. You do not need to search these places out.

I like 12oz of black drip coffee - preferably in a cup with a lid that I can sip on for like 40 minutes without it getting cold.

yeah i have a fondness for this kind of thing, light roast and floral and in a mug. sorry for getting europe and italy wrong guys. this is all very interesting though.

Out of all of the places I've been I think Taipei was my favorite for coffee. Also one of the only places I've visited that is a producer of beans.

could you say more about this?

i don't drink coffee and dislike the taste of it

the smell of coffee beans in a coffee store is lovely tho, if not quite up to the standard of the smell of tobacco curing

janeway is overrated although i honestly support her on the whole tuvix thing

i own a television, although for a while 10 years ago i did not

I feel like people saying US coffee is bad are talking about 20 years ago, there's super good independent coffee shops in any city of reasonable size

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), 04 September 2026 00:36 (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

true of everywhere tho

my tour guide in Barcelona was bemoaning the proliferation of expensive American-style bourgie “artisanal” coffee shops, replacing the traditional tiny espresso cup for one euro in unpretentious surroundings.

This is either uncool, conservative, or both:
As one who drinks their coffee unadulterated, I wish coffee shops had 2 lines - one for those or y'all who order these elaborate, multi-ingredient affairs, and another for those of us who simply ask the barista to pour it in a cup (or from the tap, if it's nitro cold brew) and hand it to us

This is true.

i agree with that.

its uncool, conservative and an excellent post in its rightful home in this thread imo, bravo

Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac) at 8:16 4 Sep 26

I feel like people saying US coffee is bad are talking about 20 years ago, there's super good independent coffee shops in any city of reasonable size

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), 04 September 2026 00:36 (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

true of everywhere tho



I'm sure, but I live here and am limiting my comments to things I actually know about, a minority practice in this discussion it seems

There was a Tim Horton's I used to go by every morning before work which did something like the two lines thing described above

heh fair shot ums

I wish coffee shops had 2 lines - one for those or y'all who order these elaborate, multi-ingredient affairs, and another for those of us who simply ask the barista to pour it in a cup (or from the tap, if it's nitro cold brew) and hand it to us

where I used to live I had achieved regular status at my coffee shop and the owner would pull my double shot when he saw me walk in and cut me ahead of all the complicated ass latte orderers which I really miss...

Agreed, but the cool thing in Italy is that any cafe/bar catering to morning workers on almost any block will give you really solid espresso or whatever for like 2 euros or less

lol when I was in the vatican museum there was an espresso bar halfway through with 1 euro shots and I was like "don't mind if I do!"

There was a Tim Horton's I used to go by every morning before work which did something like the two lines thing described above

Timmy's FTW!

The looks/responses I get from baristas in the Twin Cities when I respond "No thanks!" to the question "Do you want any milks or cream?" makes me think that we non-adulterators are too small a share of the customer base to merit our own line, unfortunately

My local bagel shop has a line for unadorned bagels and black coffee

my dad complains about being asked whether he wants milk in his americano, thing is that americano with milk is a drink that lots of people have, and it's not a cappuccino or a drip coffee with milk, so of course they ask.

I complain about it too and every one of those milk people is wrong

Mookie otm about

the smell of tobacco curing

tobacco drying in warehouses is lovely. The contrast with how much I dislike the smell of cigarettes is jarring. I have never successfully smoked an entire cigarette but I enjoy the smell of the pack before they get near fire.

Smokers IME are invariably noseblind and their opinions on the smells involved are not to be trusted.

A minor thing but when bloggers and podcasters refer to artists by first name I die inside. One of my favorite film podcasts referred to Kubrick as "Stanley" and Walker as "Scott." I've noticed it's mostly a gay podcaster/blogger phenomenon.

Scott
Scott 2
Scott 3
Scott 4

Share that reaction to an extent but if dolly is dolly Scott can be Scott. He had 4 albums called that!

(xp obv!)

The caveat obv is if the artist refers to him/herself by first name.

Tokyo used to be the land of undrinkable burnt/over-roasted coffee (excluding their amazing canned coffee, as chronicled herein: what is the best japanese canned coffee )

but over the last 10 years, every SF coffee 3.0 brand is now represented so it's kind of bizarrely charming to be walking around seeing people queued for your neighborhood spot back home. But also sometimes the concepts get mixed as Flour + Water (modern italian restaurant) gets re-branded as coffee/cafe for mixed use which is something we don't have here (strictly dinner in SF).

One of my favorite film podcasts referred to Kubrick as "Stanley"

What had Donen and Kramer done to offend them I wonder.

off topic but deems, your DN reads like a Guided by Voices song title

could you say more about this?

I posted to the coffee thread since the topic has drifted

immediate death penalty for people who smoke indoors where it’s banned

But re: tattoo discussion. I will never get them because I don't care but I do tend to keep my distance from ppl if you tattoo something like a flag.

Mad how bad french coffee is. In French films you tend to see characters sipping coffee from a bowl and dipping buttered bread. I guess they might still do it at home.

It looks good but the reality when you buy it from a cafe...I don't get it?

Agreed, but the cool thing in Italy is that any cafe/bar catering to morning workers on almost any block will give you really solid espresso or whatever for like 2 euros or less. You do not need to search these places out.

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 4 September 2026 bookmarkflaglink

The espressos in Nice were fine too.

Hunter Biden should be removed from the public eye.

In case anyone hasn’t been following along, Biden apparently asked for access to the Channel 5 subscriber email database, after his interview, and used it to pump his $Laptop meme coin, which crashed 98% minutes after launch. His whole recent media / online push was leading up to the scam, which a lot of people saw coming a mile off.

I learnt my coffee drinking in an Italian university, espresso for 500lire a cup every hour on the hour, espresso, machiatto or, at a stretch, a cappuccino. Buy a ticket crowd up to the bar get served a drink gulp it down leave and go back to class. I bet it’s still better than 95% of the espresso drinks I’ve been subjected to.

It wasn’t till I got to Melbourne that I came to a city with even a remotely similar density of decent coffee places, even if they do use too much milk. Despite years of improvement London remains an awful place to buy coffee. I find myself looking for places that serve all-press beans, as a sign of some kind of expertise with espresso machines. All-press doesn’t even make it into the top 5 places roasting within 500m of my front door, let alone in the wider city, but they got bought by Asahi and got taken to the world.

Which brings me to Tokyo, as steve shasta says it is a place of the very highs and lows of coffee making. (Props to the all-press in toranomon Hills as a good place to work from, and my favorite local roaster, supreme’s, Meiji-jingu koenmae shop). I will say in trad Japanese coffee’s defence, I quite like delice de France’s siphon; available early in the morning in many train stations, but if you want a decent cup, look for someone who trained in Melbourne, you can’t quite order a magic but you can get enough shots in the milk to make it taste of something.

Worst thing about Japanese coffee; it’s an afternoon beverage so finding somewhere open at 7 in the morning is nigh on impossible. All hail boss in a can, you can even get cans with milk no sugar now.

djs uploading their "sets" online are committing piracy

you upload to Mixcloud and they take care of the royalty payments, problem solved

Students who suffer from high anxiety and require extended deadlines should not major in high-pressure fields like PR and journalism.

you upload to Mixcloud and they take care of the royalty payments, problem solved

― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, September 10, 2026 9:28 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was just trying to troll but that's actually very interesting and i had no idea. thanks!

Students who suffer from high anxiety and require extended deadlines should not major in high-pressure fields like PR and journalism.

― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, September 10, 2026 6:29 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Hard agree with this. The idea that professors— especially poorly paid contingent faculty— need to readjust their lesson plans, LMS, and entire class structure to make things feel okay for single students with deep behavioral or learning issues is completely insane afaic.

I'm not going to comment on other majors, but I can't fathom why an advisor wouldn't steer a student past a major requiring you to call and talk to strangers and turn shit over quickly, often with little thanks besides a grade.

I bounced that view off my wife (a very good journalist who is also extremely shy) and she agrees with you.

In a spirit of charity I did try to think of corners of journalism and journalism-adjacent jobs where one might be able to survive without working under constant deadline pressure, or with limited contacting of strangers.

In my own career, even on a quarterly magazine we had tons of intermediate deadlines. Indeed the lack of urgency can induce a lotus-eating trance state. I had book projects that took years - and people would always be like, "What's another week?"

My wife's position was uncharacteristically "suck it up buttercup," with a dash of "the kids today."