Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

british imperialism was better than most of the alternatives

individualism is in many respects v good

i've got nothing else i can think of, you people are monsters tbh

'cept unregistered maybe, can get behind the secret atheism bit

brown sugar runs rings around superfoods as a topping for oatmeal.

i have brooks brothers glasses

Compulsory parade attendance.

yoga is bullshit

military technology is pretty cool

I am this guy IRL

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it is obnoxious for boys under the age of 13 to have long hair, and an indication that their parents are overindulgent.

today, while at the supermarket, I saw a boy of no more than 10 with a mohawk and felt genuinely incensed.

i like to open a door for a lady

lol, there is definitely this thing that happens in Brooklyn where I see certain longhaired pre-teens and I can just *tell* that they have skateboard dads who encourage them to have it, like it's not even rebellious but actually DL striving by the parents.

I like women.

I don't append "cis" to the male box that I check off on every form.

Cannot abide visible bra straps, even when fashionable

Dogs are outside pets.

Tattoos.

an individual's actions does have something to do w/ their success

not all cultures are equally wonderful and some are bad enough that they should be discouraged

life could be hellish and for many ppl it is so if yours isn't some gratitude is probably in order

nb 1 + 3 might not be internally consistent

Femmephobia is way less useful as a critical concept than misogyny

Self-care is necessary but not thereby radically oppositional

Couching leftist projects in terms of resistance to neoliberalism rather than to capitalism risks a lot of reformist implications

(Not that femmephobia can't be useful in order to talk about, say, biases in specific queer spaces, but it can mystify the conditions that butch and gnc women actually face if applied too generally.)

watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art

that's not a "reveal" per se

I forgot imago had some sort of Sremm beef. Why so much hate?

Marxism is dumb and bad.

Capitalist liberal democracy is the end point of Western civilization, it will never be superseded by a higher/better form of social organization, will only end through collapse.

Men should not have facial hair and people in general should not have messy hair.

xps i don't recall saying that you can hear a soulja boy's influence on chaucer

lol "a soulja boy." the soulja boy's tale

currently at peak hair and beard, this will probably only end by collapse too tbh

sremm beef = just watch their latest video, 'set the roof' and listen to the lyrics, they're just the worst people in earth, i fucking despise literally everything they're doing, it isn't even abrasive in an interesting way

lol crut, one for old-skool ilx that

hir wese y manne ful cranke, tellynge

Femmephobia is way less useful as a critical concept than misogyny

Self-care is necessary but not thereby radically oppositional

Couching leftist projects in terms of resistance to neoliberalism rather than to capitalism risks a lot of reformist implications

― one way street, Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:52 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink]

looooool

women's sports are, in general, less exciting versions of men's sports

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I'll watch women's tennis from time to time but yeah

There are too many things that I massively disagree with posted here for it to be worth a fight on any one of them. I'm just wondering why the 'loool' at ows? Because those aren't really conservative standpoints? They kind of are in comparison to a lot of current radical discourse (I agree with all of them, though not entirely with the latter, but again, I kind of feel this thread is meant to be a dumping ground not a discussion ground).

women's sports are, in general, less exciting versions of men's sports

― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:52 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sexual dimorphism of humans def means that a lot of sports are more exciting to watch when men are playing them but otoh a lot of women's sports are less commercialized and therefore less likely to suffer from rampant PED use endemic to men's sports and therefore likely to be more of a clean competition

also crowds at woman's sports tend to be less shitty

(emil.y i was laughing at the extreme relativity necessary to consider those "conservative opinions." i assumed they were posted tongue in cheek so thought i was laughing along with one way street, not at them, and wasn't critiquing the positions themselves)

Can't speak for sciatica but I lol'ed at ows' post bc it requires some, like, wicked fractal definition of conservatism within the queer anticapotalist left. but I get how all those opinions could be uncool rn

liberalism as many of my friends practice it is like a shitty religion that i want no part of.

they think of other people as needing to be saved, by them.
they make penance with speech acts, not real action.
they live their lives in constant guilt.
they live in cities that are only differentiated from other cities by being huge destinations for wealth, then they disavow that wealth while continuing to partake in the lifestyle it provides.
they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%.
they prescribe how other people should be living their own lives.
they say things that have no meaning other than to reveal to others that they are members in this very sensitive club of good people.
it's nothing but performative.

Lol got xp'd

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

xps to sciatica and flopson - yeah, both of those reasons are basically fair enough. I think I inhabit so many circles where these are topics for fierce debate that I took it w/ a completely straight face!

watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art

― imago,

links?

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

― Philip Nunez,

best Cold War president if you look past his championing of covert ops

just watch their latest video, 'set the roof' and listen to the lyrics, they're just the worst people in earth, i fucking despise literally everything they're doing

Lj on rap always sounds like thinly veiled racist uncle 'i like blk ppl...who pull up their pants' lol

There was some self-directed irony in my post (like, as a queer trans woman and a marxist, I realize I occupy a different milieu than some of you), but I do actually hold the positions in it, and they're generally unpopular in radical circles; but as e.mily said, this thread seems "like a dumping ground not a discussion ground," so I'll stay out of the rae sremmurd discourse.

*emil.y, I mean

if hating on vicious misogyny, shit beats and two little soi-disant alpha male fuckers is racist then

never listened to rae sremmurd but i see his/her/their name everywhere

just read the lyrics to set the off and stopped here:

Now let's fill up her head and let's see if she chokes

it's fashionable to call anything (thinly veiled) racism these days (oh my conservative opinion i guess)

Bill O'Reilly also quotes lyrics as if they made sense removed from arrangements.

if hating on vicious misogyny, shit beats and two little soi-disant alpha male fuckers is racist then

― imago,

you just wrote hating "on."

if you are comparing me to bill o reilly you should say so instead of hinting at it

xpost it’s most espresso! you would have to go to a specialty café for drip or pourover

I was just in Italy in fact and my impression is the food wasn't particularly good we got better Italian restaurants here in the ol' USA if you ask me

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my theory is that you cannot judge the indicators of a quality establishment when you are abroad like you can at home

even if you weren't inculculated to like your own local and native version of whatever you are comparing (and you are), you are much likelier to land in a mediocre or worse venue whilst travelling because your eye isnt in or you are pressed by location, circumstance or lack of local knowledge

i had assumed that was a joke post!

because ive been to italy and ive had shit food in italy and ive had great food in italy and ive been in america and had good italian american food in america and shit italian american food in america but my kneejerk reaction is that you simply prefer Italian american food because you recognise the signifiers of what you yourself think of as good italian food in american italian restaurants

mainly those, ime, do boil down to more (worse) cheese more meat bigger portions and less subtlety but im not here to tell you that isnt what you like

anyway. bologna is a godlike town for food, up there with seville and lyon.

but the worst microwaved pasta dish i ever ate was at the top of the funicular in lake como.

dont eat at the top of funiculars kids

xp

i remember at The Peak in HK (reached by the peak tram, which is a funicular not a tram) the only restaurants they had were Kenny Rodgers Roasters and The Bubba Gump Shrimp Company.

haha yeah I was mostly kidding. I admit the stuff in Genova was really good

you dont get off that easy

--- ive never eaten good mexican in the united states

Australian coffee > European coffee. A 1 euro espresso in Italy is the exception to this rule.

Coffee in America is also terrible for the most part

That's not to say you can't find good coffee in Europe or America, but the baseline for what is acceptable is very different in the antipodes. The mean standard of coffee is much higher, almost anywhere is safe to grab a flatty and run

Scandinavia + Finland was alright tbf

But the problem with the 1 euro espresso is that I literally cannot control myself and will end up having 6+ shots a day and end up wide awake at 3am thinking how did I get here????

i remember at The Peak in HK (reached by the peak tram, which is a funicular not a tram) the only restaurants they had were Kenny Rodgers Roasters and The Bubba Gump Shrimp Company.

Eh who care though it costs like a HK dollar to go up there & the view is incredible. I went to this place in Yau Ma Tei & got incredible char siu that same day, also saw a leopard cat walking around randomly, 10/10 city

that's interesting - i'm honestly curious cuz i've never been. this is a stab in the dark but i'm guessing the espresso is generally pretty good.

Cool thing where you can go to like any place in Rome and walk through a coffee shop and get a euro cup of espresso that really hits. I associate this with being a Roman phenomenon near the various sights even though I’ve also been to other places in Italy? Coffee in Vienna is ok I think but really Turkish coffee (as also found in most of the Balkans) is the one. Went to some place in either Kyiv or St Petersburg where they served me a coffee that had hundreds and thousands (that’s “sprinkles” or “jimmies” to the rest of you), I don’t know what they thought they were doing with that and it didn’t really work. Do have to say the ease with which one can get an iced coffee very easily in US cities is a significant point in their favour.

I think people’s opinions regarding dark roast coffee are generally accurate, it seems stronger but actually isn’t iirc? I used to make this stuff at work that had the texture of silty tar purely because I liked the smell better and it gave me the worst heartburn. Made it once for someone I was meeting at work and they took one sip and didn’t even pretend to enjoy it, that ruled. Did its job though (keeping me awake).

The idea that American coffee could be better than Italian coffee is utter insanity. I've never had a bad coffee in Italy, compared with the bucketloads of dishwater I've had in the US. As for France, I don't mind their espressos, which are much longer than Italian espressos, but their milky coffee is undrinkable as they use UHT milk. Agree that Australian coffee is better than anything other than Italian.

Eh.. all coffee beans come from the same handful of places, and tastes are down to preference. Do you prefer it black? With sugar and/or milk? Light/dark? The main difference lies is in how the beans are roasted, how fresh they are, how they are prepared and then brewed. My issue with French coffee was their strong preference for dark roasts and their old fashioned brewing methods. There were two places in Paris that served great coffee and they were both light or medium roast V60 drip places that looked like they were teleported straight from the PNW. I wasn't a fan of Italian coffee either, but that was down to the fact that I just don't care for espresso or espresso-based drinks. I like 12oz of black drip coffee - preferably in a cup with a lid that I can sip on for like 40 minutes without it getting cold. I'm not saying that's the ultimate way to drink coffee, but just my favorite.

Out of all of the places I've been I think Taipei was my favorite for coffee. Also one of the only places I've visited that is a producer of beans.

I feel like people saying US coffee is bad are talking about 20 years ago, there's super good independent coffee shops in any city of reasonable size

Agreed, but the cool thing in Italy is that any cafe/bar catering to morning workers on almost any block will give you really solid espresso or whatever for like 2 euros or less. You do not need to search these places out.

I like 12oz of black drip coffee - preferably in a cup with a lid that I can sip on for like 40 minutes without it getting cold.

yeah i have a fondness for this kind of thing, light roast and floral and in a mug. sorry for getting europe and italy wrong guys. this is all very interesting though.

Out of all of the places I've been I think Taipei was my favorite for coffee. Also one of the only places I've visited that is a producer of beans.

could you say more about this?

i don't drink coffee and dislike the taste of it

the smell of coffee beans in a coffee store is lovely tho, if not quite up to the standard of the smell of tobacco curing

janeway is overrated although i honestly support her on the whole tuvix thing

i own a television, although for a while 10 years ago i did not

I feel like people saying US coffee is bad are talking about 20 years ago, there's super good independent coffee shops in any city of reasonable size

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), 04 September 2026 00:36 (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

true of everywhere tho

my tour guide in Barcelona was bemoaning the proliferation of expensive American-style bourgie “artisanal” coffee shops, replacing the traditional tiny espresso cup for one euro in unpretentious surroundings.

This is either uncool, conservative, or both:
As one who drinks their coffee unadulterated, I wish coffee shops had 2 lines - one for those or y'all who order these elaborate, multi-ingredient affairs, and another for those of us who simply ask the barista to pour it in a cup (or from the tap, if it's nitro cold brew) and hand it to us

This is true.

i agree with that.

its uncool, conservative and an excellent post in its rightful home in this thread imo, bravo

Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac) at 8:16 4 Sep 26

I feel like people saying US coffee is bad are talking about 20 years ago, there's super good independent coffee shops in any city of reasonable size

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), 04 September 2026 00:36 (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

true of everywhere tho



I'm sure, but I live here and am limiting my comments to things I actually know about, a minority practice in this discussion it seems

There was a Tim Horton's I used to go by every morning before work which did something like the two lines thing described above

heh fair shot ums

I wish coffee shops had 2 lines - one for those or y'all who order these elaborate, multi-ingredient affairs, and another for those of us who simply ask the barista to pour it in a cup (or from the tap, if it's nitro cold brew) and hand it to us

where I used to live I had achieved regular status at my coffee shop and the owner would pull my double shot when he saw me walk in and cut me ahead of all the complicated ass latte orderers which I really miss...

Agreed, but the cool thing in Italy is that any cafe/bar catering to morning workers on almost any block will give you really solid espresso or whatever for like 2 euros or less

lol when I was in the vatican museum there was an espresso bar halfway through with 1 euro shots and I was like "don't mind if I do!"

There was a Tim Horton's I used to go by every morning before work which did something like the two lines thing described above

Timmy's FTW!

The looks/responses I get from baristas in the Twin Cities when I respond "No thanks!" to the question "Do you want any milks or cream?" makes me think that we non-adulterators are too small a share of the customer base to merit our own line, unfortunately

My local bagel shop has a line for unadorned bagels and black coffee

my dad complains about being asked whether he wants milk in his americano, thing is that americano with milk is a drink that lots of people have, and it's not a cappuccino or a drip coffee with milk, so of course they ask.

I complain about it too and every one of those milk people is wrong

Mookie otm about

the smell of tobacco curing

tobacco drying in warehouses is lovely. The contrast with how much I dislike the smell of cigarettes is jarring. I have never successfully smoked an entire cigarette but I enjoy the smell of the pack before they get near fire.

Smokers IME are invariably noseblind and their opinions on the smells involved are not to be trusted.

A minor thing but when bloggers and podcasters refer to artists by first name I die inside. One of my favorite film podcasts referred to Kubrick as "Stanley" and Walker as "Scott." I've noticed it's mostly a gay podcaster/blogger phenomenon.

Scott
Scott 2
Scott 3
Scott 4

Share that reaction to an extent but if dolly is dolly Scott can be Scott. He had 4 albums called that!

(xp obv!)

The caveat obv is if the artist refers to him/herself by first name.

Tokyo used to be the land of undrinkable burnt/over-roasted coffee (excluding their amazing canned coffee, as chronicled herein: what is the best japanese canned coffee )

but over the last 10 years, every SF coffee 3.0 brand is now represented so it's kind of bizarrely charming to be walking around seeing people queued for your neighborhood spot back home. But also sometimes the concepts get mixed as Flour + Water (modern italian restaurant) gets re-branded as coffee/cafe for mixed use which is something we don't have here (strictly dinner in SF).

One of my favorite film podcasts referred to Kubrick as "Stanley"

What had Donen and Kramer done to offend them I wonder.

off topic but deems, your DN reads like a Guided by Voices song title