Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

Can't speak for sciatica but I lol'ed at ows' post bc it requires some, like, wicked fractal definition of conservatism within the queer anticapotalist left. but I get how all those opinions could be uncool rn

liberalism as many of my friends practice it is like a shitty religion that i want no part of.

they think of other people as needing to be saved, by them.
they make penance with speech acts, not real action.
they live their lives in constant guilt.
they live in cities that are only differentiated from other cities by being huge destinations for wealth, then they disavow that wealth while continuing to partake in the lifestyle it provides.
they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%.
they prescribe how other people should be living their own lives.
they say things that have no meaning other than to reveal to others that they are members in this very sensitive club of good people.
it's nothing but performative.

Lol got xp'd

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

xps to sciatica and flopson - yeah, both of those reasons are basically fair enough. I think I inhabit so many circles where these are topics for fierce debate that I took it w/ a completely straight face!

watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art

― imago,

links?

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

― Philip Nunez,

best Cold War president if you look past his championing of covert ops

just watch their latest video, 'set the roof' and listen to the lyrics, they're just the worst people in earth, i fucking despise literally everything they're doing

Lj on rap always sounds like thinly veiled racist uncle 'i like blk ppl...who pull up their pants' lol

There was some self-directed irony in my post (like, as a queer trans woman and a marxist, I realize I occupy a different milieu than some of you), but I do actually hold the positions in it, and they're generally unpopular in radical circles; but as e.mily said, this thread seems "like a dumping ground not a discussion ground," so I'll stay out of the rae sremmurd discourse.

*emil.y, I mean

if hating on vicious misogyny, shit beats and two little soi-disant alpha male fuckers is racist then

never listened to rae sremmurd but i see his/her/their name everywhere

just read the lyrics to set the off and stopped here:

Now let's fill up her head and let's see if she chokes

it's fashionable to call anything (thinly veiled) racism these days (oh my conservative opinion i guess)

Bill O'Reilly also quotes lyrics as if they made sense removed from arrangements.

if hating on vicious misogyny, shit beats and two little soi-disant alpha male fuckers is racist then

― imago,

you just wrote hating "on."

if you are comparing me to bill o reilly you should say so instead of hinting at it

I think I did!

[Pre-Hook: Swae Lee]
Flash her with cash, had to spazz on the waiter
She fucked up my order three times in a row, woah
I'm good on gas, I just filled up my tank
Now let's fill up her head and let's see if she chokes

so the double entendre is not done on purpose i guess is what you're saying

i don't actually think ur racist lj you just an fyi you sound like coded white supremacist

I think I did!

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and no, you didn't

yeah I quite like rap and rap culture so I appropriate its vernacular sometimes. doesn't mean I don't detest some of its practitioners though

and they're not as bad as anthony kiedis I guess

I see you flopson, I'm better about this shot these days but sremm are p much in the sweet spot of do not get

yeah idk they're like a fabulous marriage of Descendants and Kool Keith. They get away with their snottiness and for the moment they don't sound anomic or evil. But they can't keep it up forever and I can imagine hating them like The Weeknd and late Kanye.

doesn't mean I don't detest some of its practitioners though

― imago, Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:50 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the thing

people take a band you don't like and make a lot of unwarranted generalizations about you

theres tonnes of good hip hop and rap that reads different than rae sremmurd

nah it's all good -- we're just zingin' late afternoon

zingin on hump day

ugh

s'all good

let's get back on topic

courses aimed at bright/curious state-schooled kids, such as those I help to run a few times a year, are not elitist

I think my uncool conservative belief is on a parallel with LJ's statement there -- I think drawing a line dividing quality work from mass market pulp and calling one side "literature" has its place

the line moves all the time, though, and things jump back and forth

spelling your band name backwards is straightup stupid

They get away with their snottiness and for the moment they don't sound anomic or evil. But they can't keep it up forever

This was basically my take on Odd Future when they first came out, but weren't they actually kids at the time whereas Rae Sremmurd are like proper adults? I like RS musically, but honestly I haven't really paid much attention to their lyrics, so... eh. I kind of don't want to go down that route but just imagine I wrote an incredibly long and interesting post about the conflicts and intertwinement of ingroup lexical production, culture, Cannibal Corpse and exclusion/alienation of marginalised groups. Seriously, this hypothetical post was the most brilliant and incisive thing you've ever read about lyrics and it's changed your worldview forever.

(sorry for continuing to turn this thread into 'Rae Sremmurd: Classic or Dud')

Fair enough. Cannibal Corpse have shit beats too though

rock has a rich and deep history of making garbage music (another uncool conservative opinion!)

the internet can't accommodate both privacy and anonymity, and given a choice between the two i pick privacy

it will never be ok with me when people use "unique" to mean "uncommon"

Marxism is dumb and bad.

Capitalist liberal democracy is the end point of Western civilization, it will never be superseded by a higher/better form of social organization, will only end through collapse.

Men should not have facial hair and people in general should not have messy hair.

― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:37 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You know the Marxist view *is* that Capitalism will collapse, right?

permitting female facial hair is a nice lacuna in jim's conservatism there, rebounds to his credit

xp. I am very familiar with Marxism. This is probably the problem! Grew up in a house filled with books on Marxist theory. Literally was at a table with friends of my parents and an uncle who are all Trotskyists a week ago.

just need to repost this

nah it's all good -- we're just zingin' late afternoon

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wasn't the marxist view that capitalism collapses after we have 3D printers that really work, and don't just make smelly, knobby statues of webcomic characters?

nah that's gene roddenberry, easily confused

they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%.

never realized that liberals are 1% of the population

I think you need like $420K household income to be in the top 1% in the US. Maybe sleeping bag has a lot of rich liberal friends, but I doubt it.

global 1% I MEANT

barb is overrated

that is my uncool conservative belief

Maybe sleeping bag has a lot of rich liberal friends, but I doubt it.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What does this even mean, I grew up in south fl and many of my friends moved to new York, San Fran, Boston, so... Yes? Arent u a lawyer in NYC? Guessing u do too?

I grew up in south fl

really?!

(maybe I asked you already)

Isn't like half of the United States in the global 1%? And also isn't that term kind of meaningless without accounting for cost of living?

I am a lawyer in NYC and my household does not earn anything close to $420K and neither do most of my friends afaik.

Broward bb

Xp 'isn't half the US...' yes that is my point!

So basically almost no one in the US has the right to have anything to say about poverty or class because they're not living off potatoes?

I think that was my uncool belief stated upthread.

With you on that. Even pot - "the safe one" - is probably more psychologically damaging than most of its users and advocates give it credit for. And I definitely agree with you on "getting in the way of addressing the root causes."

I had been back on it for about a year after my most recent two year break. Put a pause on my consumption again a few weeks ago, but it had taken me at least two months of telling myself "I need to take a break as soon as this batch is done. I mean, as soon as this next batch is done. I mean..."

i don't fully disagree but if the problem is "things that get in the way of addressing the root causes of feeling bad" then we can extend this thought to donuts, TV, pretty much any pleasurable indulgence for some value of "doing it to excess"

if you're against things that people do to feel better while avoiding dealing with the root of bad feelings, i've got bad news about most human activities
xpost

With you on that. Even pot - "the safe one" - is probably more psychologically damaging than most of its users and advocates give it credit for. And I definitely agree with you on "getting in the way of addressing the root causes."

― peace, man

yeah my youngest sibling went into inpatient for pot addiction when they were younger. and i mean people can judge that however they want, but the truth is that they were addicted and they did need treatment and they are still benefiting from being in AA (cuz alcohol was also involved) today. AA, i tell you what, AA is fucking weird. because bill w _was_ friends with timothy leary later in bill w's life, it's one of those things where i see where he was coming from and he was looking at addressing the systemic roots of trauma. healing from trauma. which is what interested in him in leary's stuff, and like. that's a lot of the reasons people get into entheogens. ketamine, mushies, molly, they're being used clinically now, are being recognized as having clinical value, i mean, it's what they always used to say, "set and setting". so i'm not _against_ drugs, necessarily. i just think a lot of times people self-medicate and they say "oh i'm doing so much better" and _i don't believe them_. they don't look like they're doing better to me.

so a lot of AA-style groups here are into entheogens, but also a lot of them are queer, a lot of them are into family trauma, there's stuff that in my experience is valid, that works. in terms of, like, empirical results. going down to the dispensary every week, it helps people get by, it helps people survive, and i mean, it gets people high, nothing wrong with that, but a lot of times people got problems and getting high is a less than optimally healthy coping mechanism for those problems. there are things they could be doing that would help more, and being high is getting in the way of their doing that.

i don't fully disagree but if the problem is "things that get in the way of addressing the root causes of feeling bad" then we can extend this thought to donuts, TV, pretty much any pleasurable indulgence for some value of "doing it to excess"

― Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague)

yeah i don't have a problem with that. people _really_ misunderstand the nature and causes of obesity in particular. lotta people, you know, they have bad things happen and people cope in unhealthy ways. smack. sugar. asceticism. literally i'm addicted to self-denial, it's unhealthy for me. now, at that point, i'm _not_ espousing a conservative idea at all, i'm espousing a radically leftist idea, espousing the wholesale restructuring of society and in particular our criminal justice system away from a punitive approach. so i'm not actually conservative at all.

it's one of those places where conservatives are right for the wrong _reasons_, _accidentally_ right. it happens sometimes. a transphobe finds out i'm trans and they get mad and say "you'll never be a real man!" they're right and also they can go fuck themselves.

woke sjw type people irritate me even tho i agree with them about probably most stuff

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pot is actually the worst drug

Kate, I'm not following you.

People don't address the root cause of problems = yes.

Recreational drugs should be legal = yes

So...?