i don't actually think ur racist lj you just an fyi you sound like coded white supremacist
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
I think I did!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and no, you didn't
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
yeah I quite like rap and rap culture so I appropriate its vernacular sometimes. doesn't mean I don't detest some of its practitioners though
and they're not as bad as anthony kiedis I guess
I see you flopson, I'm better about this shot these days but sremm are p much in the sweet spot of do not get
― imago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link
yeah idk they're like a fabulous marriage of Descendants and Kool Keith. They get away with their snottiness and for the moment they don't sound anomic or evil. But they can't keep it up forever and I can imagine hating them like The Weeknd and late Kanye.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
doesn't mean I don't detest some of its practitioners though
― imago, Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:50 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is the thing
people take a band you don't like and make a lot of unwarranted generalizations about you
theres tonnes of good hip hop and rap that reads different than rae sremmurd
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
nah it's all good -- we're just zingin' late afternoon
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
zingin on hump day
ugh
s'all good
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
let's get back on topic
courses aimed at bright/curious state-schooled kids, such as those I help to run a few times a year, are not elitist
― imago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link
I think my uncool conservative belief is on a parallel with LJ's statement there -- I think drawing a line dividing quality work from mass market pulp and calling one side "literature" has its place
the line moves all the time, though, and things jump back and forth
― mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
spelling your band name backwards is straightup stupid
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
They get away with their snottiness and for the moment they don't sound anomic or evil. But they can't keep it up forever
This was basically my take on Odd Future when they first came out, but weren't they actually kids at the time whereas Rae Sremmurd are like proper adults? I like RS musically, but honestly I haven't really paid much attention to their lyrics, so... eh. I kind of don't want to go down that route but just imagine I wrote an incredibly long and interesting post about the conflicts and intertwinement of ingroup lexical production, culture, Cannibal Corpse and exclusion/alienation of marginalised groups. Seriously, this hypothetical post was the most brilliant and incisive thing you've ever read about lyrics and it's changed your worldview forever.
(sorry for continuing to turn this thread into 'Rae Sremmurd: Classic or Dud')
― emil.y, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link
Fair enough. Cannibal Corpse have shit beats too though
― imago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link
rock has a rich and deep history of making garbage music (another uncool conservative opinion!)
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link
the internet can't accommodate both privacy and anonymity, and given a choice between the two i pick privacy
it will never be ok with me when people use "unique" to mean "uncommon"
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
Marxism is dumb and bad.
Capitalist liberal democracy is the end point of Western civilization, it will never be superseded by a higher/better form of social organization, will only end through collapse.
Men should not have facial hair and people in general should not have messy hair.
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:37 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You know the Marxist view *is* that Capitalism will collapse, right?
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link
permitting female facial hair is a nice lacuna in jim's conservatism there, rebounds to his credit
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
xp. I am very familiar with Marxism. This is probably the problem! Grew up in a house filled with books on Marxist theory. Literally was at a table with friends of my parents and an uncle who are all Trotskyists a week ago.
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
just need to repost this
nah it's all good -- we're just zingin' late afternoon― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― bagging area (map), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link
wasn't the marxist view that capitalism collapses after we have 3D printers that really work, and don't just make smelly, knobby statues of webcomic characters?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link
nah that's gene roddenberry, easily confused
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link
they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%.
never realized that liberals are 1% of the population
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link
I think you need like $420K household income to be in the top 1% in the US. Maybe sleeping bag has a lot of rich liberal friends, but I doubt it.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link
global 1% I MEANT
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link
barb is overrated
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:53 (eight years ago) link
that is my uncool conservative belief
Maybe sleeping bag has a lot of rich liberal friends, but I doubt it.― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
What does this even mean, I grew up in south fl and many of my friends moved to new York, San Fran, Boston, so... Yes? Arent u a lawyer in NYC? Guessing u do too?
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
I grew up in south fl
really?!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link
(maybe I asked you already)
Isn't like half of the United States in the global 1%? And also isn't that term kind of meaningless without accounting for cost of living?
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link
I am a lawyer in NYC and my household does not earn anything close to $420K and neither do most of my friends afaik.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link
Broward bb
Xp 'isn't half the US...' yes that is my point!
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link
So basically almost no one in the US has the right to have anything to say about poverty or class because they're not living off potatoes?
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
I think that was my uncool belief stated upthread.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link
They don't have the right to prescribe solutions for other ppl that they themselves don't/wouldn't abide by, is more how I see it
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
Like if yr willing to make excuses for not being more generous to other ppl bc 'cost of living' isn't that the same as saying I can't give u a raise bc 'cost of operating the thing that provides yr (and many other ppls) living'?
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link
what are you talking about dude
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link
Doesn't concern u, don't worry about it.
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link
no the math still doesn't work out that way sorry
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
It seems kind of obvious that "the rich" in any kind of leftist critique means capitalists, not people earning $34,000 and therefore materially better off than the world's extreme poor. It also seems obvious that you can still criticize a system even if there is no way to avoid being part of it. IDK why I am bothering with this though.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
Sorry for getting too real conservative for the joke conservative thread, carry on. Men's sports! rap =cRap ! Lol
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link
IDK why I am bothering with this though
indeed
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
messageboards and mobile devices have turned people into antisocial narcissists
also, zombies
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
did you know that message boards aren't actually that popular anymore?
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link
yeah, but the damage is done, see the last 9000 threads.
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
how do you manage to stay unaffected given all the time you've spent on here Morbs?
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
is this some kind of confession
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link
first of all, i interpreted this thread as a safe space to air unpopular opinions without some smartass jumping down yr throat, so ease off sleepi or no one else will give up the goods
second of all, even a remotely sympathetic reading of sleepingbags og post would make it clear he's not talking about anyone living in america and making 34,000$, ya dick. gonna copy paste it again:
liberalism as many of my friends practice it is like a shitty religion that i want no part of.they think of other people as needing to be saved, by them. they make penance with speech acts, not real action. they live their lives in constant guilt. they live in cities that are only differentiated from other cities by being huge destinations for wealth, then they disavow that wealth while continuing to partake in the lifestyle it provides. they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%. they prescribe how other people should be living their own lives.they say things that have no meaning other than to reveal to others that they are members in this very sensitive club of good people. it's nothing but performative.― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:15 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they think of other people as needing to be saved, by them. they make penance with speech acts, not real action. they live their lives in constant guilt. they live in cities that are only differentiated from other cities by being huge destinations for wealth, then they disavow that wealth while continuing to partake in the lifestyle it provides. they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%. they prescribe how other people should be living their own lives.they say things that have no meaning other than to reveal to others that they are members in this very sensitive club of good people. it's nothing but performative.
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:15 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
are people like that really so alien to you, man alive? i feel like i see you complain about this shit all the time
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:21 (11 minutes ago) Permalink
This really true? I thought things had just kind of migrated to reddit.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
I don't think many people use ilx style message boards, or at least %-of-the-internet-doing-this is lower, the total amount out there is still probably pretty high. but fb groups and reddit boards aren't that much different, just worse for extended conversations.
― iatee, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link
xp. oh yeah I guess reddit is a messageboard :(
but like younger people i talk to just seem to use snapchat, whatsapp, tumblr, twitter, instagram, etc.
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link