Latin@s is almost there but exclusionary of non-binary genders
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 00:41 (eight years ago) link
i'm kind of wondering if sarahel has ever used airbnb or uber
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:41 (eight years ago) link
you don't "pay" uber drivers and aren't most airbnb "landlords" middle class ppl?
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:42 (eight years ago) link
aren't most airbnb "landlords" middle class ppl?
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2016/mar/18/airbnb-from-homesharing-cool-to-commercial-giant
most airbnb landlords are landlords
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link
and uber, at least in cities, is mainly a way to fuck over unionized cabdrivers who actually did the work to get a hack license and appropriate insurance for their business
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:51 (eight years ago) link
these are not my uncool conservative opinions though, sorry
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:52 (eight years ago) link
i have a few friends that make decent side cashola doing the AirBnb thing
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:55 (eight years ago) link
as opposed to like, renting a room to a tenant, which would make them a fraction of the money. only catch is the occasional death threat (which one of my friends got from a AirBnb guest who they had to remove)
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:56 (eight years ago) link
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, August 29, 2016 9:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in my city hack licenses are monopolized and leased by a handful of genuinely shitty people; i have mixed feelings at best on uber but the current system can burn.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link
leftists who preach equality and compassion are often people who are doing it for reasons of fashion/social climbing/superiority and can be the most miserable dicks out there. if they have an Alain Badiou book in conspicuous sight, you're in for a bad time. unless you're one of the same douchebags and can crow about it together.
uncool conservative belief twofer, people who read literature and philosophy but don't seem to actually understand/absorb it considering their levels of empathy and understanding about the world are still at sub-toddler levels.
― larry appleton, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link
capitalism has been one of history's greatest drivers of quality of life
ppl would be happier if they attended religious services more often
the #1 problem in the west today is the disintegration of communities / the family
― Mordy, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link
for many, true, definitely not true in my case. I think having any kind of therapeutic, repeated communal activity can be helpful, which is why I won't shit on anybody who gets something out of it, though. it works for my folks.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 03:07 (eight years ago) link
leftists who preach equality and compassion are often people who are doing it for reasons of fashion/social climbing/superiority and can be the most miserable dicks out there.
in the online world, I wonder how much of that is driven by the current climate where everybody feels pressured to have an opinion on something and make it known, lest their silence be interpreted as 'not giving a shit'.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 03:16 (eight years ago) link
― Mordy, Monday, August 29, 2016 10:01 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i agree with the last two which is why i cannot fully endorse #1
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 03:21 (eight years ago) link
well, i wont put it #1, but it's on the list
*sigh* which is to say disintegration of communities and family is not #1, you feel me
I find it kind of ridiculous that the govt chips in for NPR. Why don't they chip in for New Yorker subscriptions while they're at it
― Heez, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:50 (twelve hours ago) Permalink
maybe its different in uk/europe but commercial listings are still a minority of listings, but a higher share of revenue (because they can rent the rooms out more days/year) http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/airbnb-probably-isnt-driving-rents-up-much-at-least-not-yet/
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link
most people should not have children
― clouds, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link
My personal flavour of Uncool Conservatism is a mix of 1. a Hobbesian fear of well-meaning but wrong radicals succeeding and actually taking over (sorry ows and emil.y!) and then we all idk starve or get our heads chopped off or whatever, and 2. contrarian neoliberal scold. The former is relatively sincere, the latter is more of a troll and a product of ennui at having grown-up in an intellectual environment of incurious and smug petit-bourgeois progressivism; the same force pushed me to the far left in college. I don't really have enough confidence in most of my political beliefs to really act on them in any meaningful way beyond posting regretful challops on an anonymous plaintext message board, voting (so far always a razor's edge of indifference between two center-left parties), and occasionally throwing some change at campaigns & orgs like Sanders or BLM that tug my heartstrings. I generally come out on the woke side of the White-Guy Cycle of Social Justice Acceptance but still have private misgivings about how some of the institutions play out irl (esp in music scenes, one of which I've had first hand experience of being ripped to shreds over ensuing acrimony)
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link
This one really bums me out actually. The offices of a "hip" college kid-skewing church are across the street from my house and they always seem to have all sort of events going on, like cookouts and people doing stuff and a band playing every once in a while.
I think a lot about how nice it would be to have some sort of community like that to interact with regularly, but the single thing that every one of these people by definition have in common and the essential reason they're all hanging out together is something that I think is absolute nonsense. There doesn't seem to be anything quite like shared spiritual belief that causes people to get together in this manner.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link
hey, you never know, maybe they're just there for the bbq
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link
Seriously. I was looking for a way out of the church my whole childhood and when I turned 16 I found a job that required me to be there on Sunday mornings. I miss the ice cream socials and volunteer opportunities, but fuck listening to interminable sermons once a week and cracking open the hymnal every 10 minutes.
― how's life, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
i am super happy not going to religious services at all, like my weekends got 100x better when i got to college and realized that i don't have to go to church every sunday anymore
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link
but yea i agree about the need for community/family
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:16 (eight years ago) link
my wife and i tried out various churches for a while, we were both raised catholic and not interested in that anymore so we visited a few different progressive churches eg UCC, UU and it was fine i guess but it still felt like church, the bigger factor was that i just realized i wasn't a christian anymore so it became kind of pointless to go
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link
Not a conservative belief: I've found that if you can bracket yr faith (or lack thereof) it stops being important. Like who cares whether I believe? I'm just some shmuck.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link
i find doing things i want to do to be generally superior to doing things i have to do.
a lot of people, honestly, particularly at the mainline/liberal denominations, _are_ just there for the barbecue. it's so funny to me that so many people are proud about being "spiritual but not religious" when being religious but not spiritual is way better for you as a human being. being "spiritual" will super fuck you up.
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link
Like who cares whether I believe? I'm just some shmuck.
irl lol, something v Jewish about this
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
Finding it hard to disagree with these tbh.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
the main problem with religious involvement is the people imo. the church on my street that has a band that sounds like coldplay playing during services, and does a soup kitchen for the homeless, and runs a nursery, and free tax clinics etc. seems nice and welcoming and not stuffy. even if we ignore the fact that they're total bigots, the people are just awful. they come from the suburbs into the city to go to church - i guess because it's some specific weirdo prod denomination. after service finishes they flood to the local ice cream places in their suvs. they are bland. they are wholesome. they are blah.
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link
The point of a revolutionary vanguard is not to create revolution, but to scare the bourgeoisie into creating a welfare state.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
Frederik, you will like this section of this wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Nations_Fail#Drivers_of_Democracy
You might like the book too but I dunno haven't read it
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
the people are just awful
well, that's people for you, isn't it?
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:25 AM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yep
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link
there's a local youth-oriented church thing in my city that's similar, I think maybe they're not all that religiousy then I see a group of them studying the bible at a coffeeshop
super weird when there are two bible study groups of young (college-age to mid-20s) adults and they're segregated by gender. like, you're from the same church and all sitting there with bibles open, wtf is going on here
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
my belief is that youth-oriented churches are a corruption of the idea of church community because the point of the community is it includes the old and young alike and age is a really creepy way to divide yr religious community
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link
there are many, many cool new wave churches around where I live that seem to be targeting a younger demo. I, for one, am deeply suspicious of all of them.
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
Yanks still fixating on religion wtf guys the world is yours
― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link
yanks took that seriously and literally now own the world dude
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link
I guess the haters call this neo-liberalism rather than conservatism, but: I think identity-based politics are more important than class-based at this moment in time.
Also, and I know this is controversial, for all that I dislike Clinton's foreign policy and find her too hawkish, I still trust her more than Stein on this subject. And, honestly, Sanders.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link
Xp if u own the world hows come u pay us all the tax
― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
I think you'll find we don't pay you the tax, hence the legal wrangling
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
We don't want it anyway
― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
― mh 😏, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:25 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought youth-oriented churches were the ones with a mix if young and old alike, and it's other churches that are exclusively geriatrics at this point
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
it's a double irish arrangement foolio
feel bad for dear old ireland tho
eu should be ashamed of itself
xp
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link
Nah, Margrethe Vestager ftw!
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link
cheers peggy for turning a blind eye to tax loopholes in a country that needed a bailout
gotta love the socialists for keeping those in need down, but feeding them just enough swill to think they're improving
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link
I can't decide where I stand on it tbh. Doesn't feel like tax swindling is a just or sustainable basis for economic success but......maybe it is?
― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link
children who regularly misbehave in school should be sent to work camps
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link