https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xygU8th2OQ0
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Friday, 21 August 2015 22:53 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm4prp_vRKQ
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Friday, 21 August 2015 22:54 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtMCMYrr9Ok
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Friday, 21 August 2015 22:56 (ten years ago)
bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(what's with the hand gestures, is that a thing)
― drash, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:21 (ten years ago)
it's a vlogger thing, endemic to youtubers whose videos are nothing but static shots of themselves soliloquizing in front of a bedroom wall. it breaks up the monotony and makes for mildly interesting thumbnails.
my main takeaway from this youtube rabbithole is that there are about a thousand seven____girls channels and they are all ridiculously popular, i.e.:
SevenSuperGirls3,150,547 subscribers • 2,792,770,072 viewsJoined Nov 27, 2008
SevenAwesomeKids578,570 subscribers • 307,416,008 viewsJoined Feb 27, 2008
SevenCoolTweens306,419 subscribers • 112,192,132 viewsJoined Jul 11, 2009
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:43 (ten years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/gxmhTlf.jpg
(sorry)
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:45 (ten years ago)
fascinatingapparently at the age of 16 one must be sacrificed to the volcanohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2b9fuhywN8
― drash, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:58 (ten years ago)
http://scidok.sulb.uni-saarland.de/volltexte/2014/5895/pdf/dissertation_frobenius_scidok.pdf
― drash, Friday, 21 August 2015 23:59 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUS9FsP_GpY
^this is the proper way to take leave of ilx btw
― drash, Saturday, 22 August 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)
well there's my internet longreading for the next month. I remember reading an interesting piece about the aesthetics of interior design in youtube videos, but I can't find the link right now.
bye Katherine, sorry you aged out of the target demographic :(
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Saturday, 22 August 2015 00:12 (ten years ago)
https://medium.com/message/the-american-room-3fce9b2b98c5
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Saturday, 22 August 2015 00:15 (ten years ago)
thx for linkcan't vouch for that dissertation, haven't read it yet but am v intrigued by the topicfascinating though they are as phenomena, i mostly can't bear to watch vlogs; they make me extremely irrationally embarrassedhave like visceral aversion, have to wince my way throughyet stimes feel compelled to gaze into that dark heart of humanity
― drash, Saturday, 22 August 2015 00:40 (ten years ago)
:( goodbye unregistered
― drash, Saturday, 22 August 2015 11:03 (ten years ago)
my daughter is a vlogger
i love that she's exploring her creativity, however it works out
― MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 August 2015 11:12 (ten years ago)
that's great!for all my mixed feelings i do think it's an amazing genremontaignean
― drash, Saturday, 22 August 2015 11:26 (ten years ago)
yeah, i love all that domestic Facebook cataloguing the mundane, and it functions as a community, even if it runs on a currency of likes and adds and shares...
bit too much unexamined celebration of consumerism for my taste but hey, who knows where it goes down the line?
― MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 August 2015 11:47 (ten years ago)
that's cool! at the very least she'll pick up some editing skills along the way.
I don't object to vlogging in principle, but I'm not a fan of the "vlogger as content farmer" phenomenon, where a youtuber develops a fanbase, gets partnered, and quickly realizes that they'll lose subscribers (and ad revenue) unless they post a video every 24 hours whether or not they have anything interesting to say — so they end up churning out thousands of formulaic/uncreative/spammy videos with titles like "50 random facts about my love life" or "Tyler Oakley takes the fried egg challenge!" or "LUSH Bath Bombs review [sponsored video]". and lots of users are signed to huge multi-channel networks, which makes the process even more unsavory. but my complaint mainly applies to ubiquitous celebrity youtubers, and I'm not arguing that vloggers aren't capable of sincere creative expression (even though vlogs aren't usually my cup of tea)
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Saturday, 22 August 2015 13:59 (ten years ago)
In my work of young ppl they keep talking about "Youtubers" who are apparently stinking rich from producing YT content, are Youtubers distinct from vloggers
― cis terfs /r/ doing it for themselves (wins), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:02 (ten years ago)
nah it's interchangeable i think
i mostly agree with all the negatives you listed unreg, but i'm v aware that this isn't a world that's speaking to me and its inhabitants don't care - but as i said, mundanity in a non-pejorative sense is something i'm really into, and any DIY community spirit is always alright by me too - it's probly just another internet bubble but on whatever level this is about kids creating and relating
― MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:11 (ten years ago)
tbh in lots of ways it feels a lot like peak blog era but the producers on average are way younger now and their vids reflect this - some of them will use the learning experience to do things that are interesting, lots of them may not
― MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:13 (ten years ago)
sorry i shd've put this on another thread, don't want to ruin the purity of this one's concept :(
eh, I've been using the terms pretty much interchangeably, but vloggers are youtubers who talk to the camera about their opinions and experiences and *feels* and product reviews. most filthy rich youtubers are vloggers, although I wouldn't call Smosh a vlog because most of their videos are comedy skits, and I guess the same would apply to all those seven_________girls channels.
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:16 (ten years ago)
and yeah, my complaints about vloggers should definitely come with the disclaimer that I'm not part of their target audience and I can only really observe the phenomenon as an outsider. I'm not hating on kids using youtube to express themselves (although I reserve the right to hate on Anthony Fantano with impunity)
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:23 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTxMxgupAWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbjGA0YRFxo
three goodbyes in eight months! sad
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:27 (ten years ago)
xps thinking about this last night, remembered as a kid often talking & performing before bathroom mirror, as if to invisible audience/ imaginary interlocutor/ absent god. even then i realized, confusedly, that in a way i only was (& played) a ‘self’ in relation to phantasmatic other’s gaze (& this scared me, freaked me out— sthing about the emptiness, illusoriness, neediness, aloneness, ridiculousness, vanity of that, my, self)
there’s sthing moving & amazing, yet to me kinda creepy & scary at times (not sure why), to see human beings have that ontologically primal desire/ fantasy met by vlogging to actual audience, community of online interlocutors
(maybe this isn’t so different from keeping a diary—> confessional blogging)
ofc much of the creepiness due to ‘content farming’ unreg refers to; there’s alienated/alienating grotesqueness to that self-performance when self = brand, product
― drash, Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:31 (ten years ago)
but like y'all i'm def not target audience here; i experience this as sthing foreign to me & so i may be unfair to itmany of these kid vloggers are v impressive
― drash, Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:49 (ten years ago)
weird/ungood thing about celeb vloggers is you see them moving into late 20s and they're still compelled to maintain the brand, it's less of a good look the older and paider you get
― MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:51 (ten years ago)