$2million deal for Black

It might be wound back a bit when the salary cap concessions are cut next year!!!

now now benno dont upset lucy, they have won 3 premierships based on those concessions

I thought that the Lie Ins won those flags because Port and Collingwood have been taking choking lessons from the Cats!

regards,

REB

Now, now, boys, your undies are starting to show.

What you blokes won't, can't admit, is that many of the Lions have taken pay cuts and are playing for less then their market value.

So Black a Brownlow, Norm Smith, triple premiership and 2 time club B&F is on an average of $500K. Now have a look and your lists, pick the guys on that sort of money and see if you would swap him for young Simon.

I reckon he would have got the $2Mil over just three years on the open market but he want to stay at Brisbane, must be the extra 7%, or the water?

Cheaper housing prices, better weather, best coach, best team assembled in the last 50 years. No wonder they want to stick together. But they have not had to lose a wanted or genuine starting player due to the concessions.....

Yeah true Benno but not many clubs do really. Rawlings, Brown and Stevens are exceptions in what has been an out of the box year for "good" players leaving clubs. But I don't think money had a lot to do with their decisions.

I agree in all of those cases BB - money may have only played a small part in the player leaving, disagreement wtih coaching choices and opportunity probably had more effect.

In the last couple of years, there were some big transfers - Croad, Woewodin, Carey, Ronnie Burns, Torney, Paul Williams, Caracella, Blumfield, Cupido etc - and not one of the big transfers has been a Lions starting player going elsewhere... Cupido was a 2nd string lions player at best.

"Cupido was a 2nd string lions player at best"

I think I only ever saw Cupido play one or two games he was injured for most of him time here and when not injured couldn't get into the side.

If Black had been a Collingwood or Richmond or Essendon player, he'd have been expected to play for what he was already on while whichever big-name they were chasing got all the money.

Brisbane look after their own while other clubs strut around at trade time chasing headlines. They concentrate on keeping their own players instead of pinching them from other clubs.

might have something to do with the fact they have won the last 3 premierships, so the list doesnt need any additions.

That's an impressive list Benno and I'd forgotten about some and the salary cap played a role in some of those, especially the Essendo players. What Brisbane have been able to do is have their top players average out their payments so that they are all on about the same wage. And they have done this even though other clubs have offered them more money. (Carlton offered Luke Power $600K - he's not getting that at Brisbane) So the difference betweent the top earner and the median one is not as great at some other clubs.

It would be interesting to be able to run a game day comparision between Brisbane and whoever, I bet the 2 or 3 top earners on the field would be in the opposition BUT 6 or 7 of the top ten earners would be Brisbane players. Does that make sense?

And all those other factors come into it, on field success, coach, opportunities to take over from older players etc. I don't fool myself, if Brisbane had been a bottom 4 team for the past three years Luke Power probably goes to Carlton for $600K.

Speaking of going to Carlton for heaps of coin, what did or will Stevens get for going Blue? JSA says 500k. Surely,he's not worth that the pack skirter.

regards,

REB

JSA is prob basing that on what he was 'rumored' to be on at 'Mama Cass Memorial', and not allowing for the considerable wage drop he might be prepared to cop to get out of the joint where he's being blamed for everything except the Beaumonts and Snowtown.

If Carlton did offer him that sort of dough, I hope for his sake they let him look at it. I also hope he hasn't tried to buy a house using that offer as evidence of ability to repay.

(Actually, for the finance man's sake, I hope he did. Most money men need a good laugh.)

nup, fred, he chased the buck and got it at carlton, why else would he be okay to go and play for the bottom team, a team needing ball getters not greyhound lures

I can pick a scapegoat from a thousand k away, and Stevens has all the right Marks.

mostly skid marks

...and jsa lifts the tone of the forum to the kind of heights Jezza and Vanda and Peter Knights and Dermie and Ablett could only dream of...