Nooo, lies, ledge, lies. Both of those are wonderful. (My favourite Xmas ghost story adaptation is The Signalman but that's not James so doesn't count on this thread, I guess.)
― emil.y, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
I want full on CGI monsters & gore not flapping sheets and a bloody nose.
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:13 (two years ago) link
none more goth!
https://norfolktalesmyths.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/lost-hearts-lost6.jpg
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link
That made me think of Our Mutual Friend - "come up and be dead!" - which made me think of "I'll hold you living and I'll hold you dead" from the same - which made me think of the climax to A School Story.
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
bbc4 are showing these weekly on Mondays. last Monday was The Treasure of Abbott Thomas which i missed
next Monday is The Ash Tree
― koogs, Thursday, 25 November 2021 07:14 (two years ago) link
I did believe it hadn't been shown since the 70s tho cos the tape was not in good nick
― it isn't even a Fraktion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 November 2021 21:52 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Nope, reshown in 2004 and 2005.
Jesus, last on 16 years ago. Where did my life go?
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?order=-last&filt=bbc_four&q=A+Warning+To+The+Curious
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Thursday, 25 November 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
dickens' Signalman tonight, followed (oddly) by an MR James documentary
― koogs, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
The Signalman is really good, a psychological story that works better with the vfx and sensibilities of 70s TV than James' jump scares of the imagination.Stigma next week, an original story, not well received at the time.
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
The Signalman was excellent - properly creepy with some great scraping drones on the soundtrack.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
The thing that sticks with me most about the Holden Oh Whistle is the portrayal of the solitary walker. It captures that lonely, bumbling madness beautifully.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link
It's the landscape as well, Miller uses the stark East Anglian coastline incredibly well to depict the character's total isolation, all those endless flat pebbly peaches stretching on to infinity. No better place to go slowly mad through loneliness.
Re: The Signalman, Denholm Elliot's best performance maybe? A strikingly haunting portrayal of the aftermath of trauma (the story inspired by Dickens' own traumatic experience surviving a train crash of course).
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link
Stigma next week, an original story, not well received at the time.
They weren't wrong.
― big online yam retailer (ledge), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 09:07 (two years ago) link
I thought Stigma was ok, though it has been a while since I saw it.
I enjoyed the other original story in the series, The Ice House, more - though that isn’t well regarded either.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 11:02 (two years ago) link
The Ice House is on next week. Stigma was just devoid of atmosphere, suspense, horror, historical depth or characterisation, and the acting was dreadful (including a 13 year old girl played by an actress who must have been 18 at least).
― big online yam retailer (ledge), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 11:35 (two years ago) link
The Ice House is v good iirc, with more of an Aickmanesque atmosphere than Jamesian, looking forward to that. Agreed on Stigma, bit of a will-this-do box ticker
― ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link
new Mezzotint tonight on 2, and classic Whistle later on 4 (after turn of the screw)
― koogs, Friday, 24 December 2021 10:31 (two years ago) link
The Ice House - Aickmanesque or not (and awful hammy acting or not) these kinds of stories full of signs and suggestions and not a shred of narrative logic do nothing for me. The Mezzotint - better than I was expecting! I am fully in support of the additional story element and ending.
― two sleeps till brooklyn (ledge), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link
Yeah didn't much care for The Ice House at all, thought it was much too arch and silly.
Here's a good and quite rare short that turned up on youtube starring TP McKenna, "A Child's Voice". Not a Ghost Story For Christmas but would fit that strand very well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zwQ6_KyHao
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link
mezzotint was simply done and i thought p strong* right up to the end, when it went very gerald's game (in a bad way)
*solo performance from rory basically
― mark s, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 12:25 (two years ago) link
5 minutes into Whistle and it's got that great b&w look that i don't think you'd get today even if you tried. a friend's daughter caught him watching a b&w film and asked him why it was all silver and that's how this feels.
wonky angles galore too, and i don't think there's been a shot so far that hasn't had something in the foreground, or this one that's in a mirror.
― koogs, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link
The Ice House - Aickmanesque or not (and awful hammy acting or not) these kinds of stories full of signs and suggestions and not a shred of narrative logic do nothing for me. The Mezzotint - better than I was expecting! I am fully in support of the additional story element and ending.― two sleeps till brooklyn (ledge), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 11:34 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― two sleeps till brooklyn (ledge), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 11:34 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah on rewatch it wasn't as good as I remembered, not v good at all tbh
― ignore the blue line (or something), Friday, 31 December 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
Mezzotint was pretty well done, all quibbles are minor, Barber feels like violence but that's nobody's fault but hers really, closing bit could've stopped with his first/second sight of the new picture, the degrees for women bit felt like boilerplate Gatiss straining for the wrong note of relevance and flubbing it. it were good tho.
― Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 December 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
Christopher Lee reads the Ash Tree on bbc4 tonight at 10
― koogs, Sunday, 22 May 2022 11:28 (two years ago) link
http://www.urbanfantasist.com/uploads/1/0/3/4/10341498/christmasashtree-copy_orig.jpg
― mark s, Sunday, 22 May 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link
this book just *terrified* me as a kid and as a result i totally recommend it (70s YA was a thing other imo)
Considered one of the best novels in the M.R. James tradition and long unavailable, a reprint of John Gordon's THE HOUSE ON THE BRINK (1970) is coming soon. Preorder now on our site and read more here: https://t.co/JkOTW8IalW pic.twitter.com/56iIQK3aXl— Valancourt Books (@Valancourt_B) August 31, 2022
― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link
clearing out old bookmarks, and making a note of this book and reminded just *how good* (and often terrifying) the puffin plus imprint was.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 8 October 2022 07:56 (two years ago) link
Summer email---this may be sold out by now, but more affordable second hand some day---is this a good bet? I'm not familiar with the publisher or contributors.
NEW TITLE NEWS: THE GHOSTS & SCHOLARS BOOK OF FOLLIES AND GROTTOESSarob Press is spookily delighted to present thirteen eerie spectral tales (eight are wholly original to this volume) where the authors have taken, as inspiration, the theme of follies and grottoes. In her introduction Rosemary Pardoe tells us: ‘Follies may be fake temples, belvederes, pyramids, obelisks and towers, sham castles and ruins, eyecatchers, faux druid circles and hermitages (with or without fake hermit!), and many other things besides. Folly grottoes are often cut out of rock, and decorated, frequently with shells (such as the one at Margate, which is famously often claimed to be genuinely pre-Christian).’And the dark and ghostly stories ... ‘range widely, from mysterious towers and classical temples to hidden grottoes; from revivals of the worship of ancient gods to unexpected distortions of space and time’.All five of the previous Sarob Press (and Rosemary Pardoe edited) Ghosts & Scholars anthologies sold out very quickly … so get your order in early to avoid disappointment as this one will, surely, quickly go the way of the others.Contents: “Introduction” by Rosemary Pardoe, “Baines’ Folly” by Christopher Harman, “Lady Elphinstone’s Folly” by John Ward, “The Ptolemaic System” by David Longhorn, “The Crooked Rook” by Rick Kennett, “Sweet Folly” by Gail-Nina Anderson, “Branks’s Folly” by C.E. Ward, “Folly” by Sam Dawson, “Minter’s Folly” by Chico Kidd, “Mothrot Hall” by Katherine Haynes, “‘Father’ O’Flynn and the Fressingfold Friezes” by Tina Rath, “Mad Lutanist” by Mark Valentine, “When I Heard My Days Before Me” by John Howard & “And Music Shall Untune the Sky” by S.A. RennieTHE GHOSTS & SCHOLARS BOOK OF FOLLIES AND GROTTOES is a Hand Numbered Limited Edition Jacketed Hardcover. Bound in Wibalin Cloth (Fine Linen Style), Foil Blocked to Spine, Lithographically Printed on Quality 80gsm Cream Bookwove Paper, Coloured Endpapers, Section Sewn Binding & Head/Tailbands.Approx 192pp including prelims etc. Fabulous wrap jacket art by the ever brilliant Paul Lowe.Publication currently scheduled for mid September 2022.PRICES ... (inclusive of Postage and Packing)UK: £38.00 EUROPE : 45,00 EurosUSA & Rest of World: USA $60 / USA $65 (Tracked)
Sarob Press is spookily delighted to present thirteen eerie spectral tales (eight are wholly original to this volume) where the authors have taken, as inspiration, the theme of follies and grottoes. In her introduction Rosemary Pardoe tells us: ‘Follies may be fake temples, belvederes, pyramids, obelisks and towers, sham castles and ruins, eyecatchers, faux druid circles and hermitages (with or without fake hermit!), and many other things besides. Folly grottoes are often cut out of rock, and decorated, frequently with shells (such as the one at Margate, which is famously often claimed to be genuinely pre-Christian).’
And the dark and ghostly stories ... ‘range widely, from mysterious towers and classical temples to hidden grottoes; from revivals of the worship of ancient gods to unexpected distortions of space and time’.
All five of the previous Sarob Press (and Rosemary Pardoe edited) Ghosts & Scholars anthologies sold out very quickly … so get your order in early to avoid disappointment as this one will, surely, quickly go the way of the others.
Contents: “Introduction” by Rosemary Pardoe, “Baines’ Folly” by Christopher Harman, “Lady Elphinstone’s Folly” by John Ward, “The Ptolemaic System” by David Longhorn, “The Crooked Rook” by Rick Kennett, “Sweet Folly” by Gail-Nina Anderson, “Branks’s Folly” by C.E. Ward, “Folly” by Sam Dawson, “Minter’s Folly” by Chico Kidd, “Mothrot Hall” by Katherine Haynes, “‘Father’ O’Flynn and the Fressingfold Friezes” by Tina Rath, “Mad Lutanist” by Mark Valentine, “When I Heard My Days Before Me” by John Howard & “And Music Shall Untune the Sky” by S.A. Rennie
THE GHOSTS & SCHOLARS BOOK OF FOLLIES AND GROTTOES is a Hand Numbered Limited Edition Jacketed Hardcover. Bound in Wibalin Cloth (Fine Linen Style), Foil Blocked to Spine, Lithographically Printed on Quality 80gsm Cream Bookwove Paper, Coloured Endpapers, Section Sewn Binding & Head/Tailbands.
Approx 192pp including prelims etc. Fabulous wrap jacket art by the ever brilliant Paul Lowe.
Publication currently scheduled for mid September 2022.
PRICES ... (inclusive of Postage and Packing)
UK: £38.00
EUROPE : 45,00 Euros
USA & Rest of World: USA $60 / USA $65 (Tracked)
― dow, Saturday, 8 October 2022 17:52 (two years ago) link
as some will know rosemary pardoe runs the *impressively* old-school (and usefully scholarly) m r james fansite http://www.pardoes.info/roanddarroll/GS.html as well as a site devoted to the 60s underground magazine GANDALF'S GARDEN: http://www.pardoes.info/roanddarroll/GS.html
(sad to note her husband and co-sitehost darroll pardoe passed away last year)
so i'd say bet on it yes
― mark s, Saturday, 8 October 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link
oops i gave u james twice, here's gandalf: http://www.pardoes.info/roanddarroll/GG.html
― mark s, Saturday, 8 October 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link
Noticing good pix there right away, thx!
― dow, Saturday, 8 October 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link
Douglas A. Anderson, editor of fine Tales Before Tolkien, on James' only novel (brief, intriguing comments)http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2022/10/the-centenary-of-five-jars.html
― dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link
bbc christmas schedule out today and includes
A Ghost Story for Christmas: Count Magnus
gatiss again
― koogs, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link
it's all good, i'm used to these inferior facsimiles now
Count Magnus is a very cruel one to do underwhelmingly tho
― this display name blocked by FIFA (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 11:36 (one year ago) link
it's the brass ring of mrj and gatiss will as usual fail to seize it 😔
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link
if i was Gatiss i would simply say "i'm rubbish at this, give somebody good a go"
― this display name blocked by FIFA (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 11:52 (one year ago) link
When will there be more freaky trigger hauntography posts, that's what I'd like to know.
― ledge, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 11:56 (one year ago) link
yeah those lazy assholes
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link
knowing the murkiness of the details about the comings and goings of the guy in 'a warning to the curious' i've just spent some time finding out if it was possible that for count magnus's unfortunate victim, "much of his journey" home was by canal boat, alongside a traveller going from stockholm to trollhättan. it was.
― ledge, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link
that trollhättan in full:
https://assets.moomin.com/uploads/2015/11/Finn-Family-Moomintroll_Hat.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
now there's a crossover i'd like to see.
― ledge, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link
This isn't cheap but the concept is pretty great: a book about the real life settings of hundreds of ghost storieshttp://tartaruspress.com/ghost-story-gazetteer.html
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 December 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
I just heard a reading of "Canon Alberic's Scrap-Book" on the Ephemeral podcast. Inspired me to download Ghost Stories of an Antiquary. Happy Holidays.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 3 December 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
Asking gpt-3 to write a moomin story in the style of m.r. james. 'in the style of' doesn't seem to work so well but this one gets a bit meta:
As the moon rose high in the night sky, the moomins gathered around their cozy little house, huddled together against the chill of the autumn air. In the distance, the forest was alive with the rustling of leaves and the howling of the wind, but the moomins were safe and warm inside their home.Suddenly, a knock at the door startled them all. Who could it be at this late hour? The moomins hesitated, but eventually one of them bravely opened the door to find a stranger standing on their doorstep.The stranger was tall and thin, with a long, curved nose and a strange, otherworldly air about him. He introduced himself as Mr. James, a traveler who had been lost in the forest for days. The moomins welcomed him inside, offering him a cup of tea and a warm fire to sit by.As they talked, Mr. James told the moomins of his adventures in the forest, of the strange and wondrous creatures he had encountered, and of the many dangers he had faced. The moomins listened with rapt attention, entranced by his tales of adventure.But as the night wore on, the moomins began to sense that there was something not quite right about Mr. James. His stories seemed too fantastical, too far-fetched, to be true. And there was a glint in his eye, a hint of malice, that made them uneasy.As the moomins prepared for bed, Mr. James retired to his room, but they could hear him muttering and chanting late into the night. And when they woke the next morning, they found that Mr. James had disappeared, leaving behind only a strange, cold feeling in the air.The moomins knew then that they had been visited by a mysterious and dangerous creature, one that threatened to upset the balance of their peaceful world. But they were strong and brave, and they knew that they would overcome this threat, just as they had overcome all the others that had come before.And so the moomins went about their days, keeping a watchful eye out for any further signs of Mr. James, determined to protect their home and their way of life from the dangers of the forest.
Suddenly, a knock at the door startled them all. Who could it be at this late hour? The moomins hesitated, but eventually one of them bravely opened the door to find a stranger standing on their doorstep.
The stranger was tall and thin, with a long, curved nose and a strange, otherworldly air about him. He introduced himself as Mr. James, a traveler who had been lost in the forest for days. The moomins welcomed him inside, offering him a cup of tea and a warm fire to sit by.
As they talked, Mr. James told the moomins of his adventures in the forest, of the strange and wondrous creatures he had encountered, and of the many dangers he had faced. The moomins listened with rapt attention, entranced by his tales of adventure.
But as the night wore on, the moomins began to sense that there was something not quite right about Mr. James. His stories seemed too fantastical, too far-fetched, to be true. And there was a glint in his eye, a hint of malice, that made them uneasy.
As the moomins prepared for bed, Mr. James retired to his room, but they could hear him muttering and chanting late into the night. And when they woke the next morning, they found that Mr. James had disappeared, leaving behind only a strange, cold feeling in the air.
The moomins knew then that they had been visited by a mysterious and dangerous creature, one that threatened to upset the balance of their peaceful world. But they were strong and brave, and they knew that they would overcome this threat, just as they had overcome all the others that had come before.
And so the moomins went about their days, keeping a watchful eye out for any further signs of Mr. James, determined to protect their home and their way of life from the dangers of the forest.
― ledge, Sunday, 4 December 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link
As the sun set over the peaceful Moomin Valley, the Moomins gathered around the fire to tell each other ghost stories. Little My was the first to speak, her voice trembling with fear as she told the tale of the ghostly Moominpappa who roamed the woods at night, searching for lost souls to haunt.But it was Snufkin's story that truly chilled the Moomins to the bone. He spoke of the Moominmamma who, long ago, had been possessed by a dark spirit and had begun to prey on the other Moomins, luring them into her clutches with her sweet words and gentle touch.The Moomins listened in horror as Snufkin described how the Moominmamma had lured Moominpappa into her embrace, only to reveal her true, monstrous form and devour him whole. And now, he warned, she was coming for the rest of them.As the fire crackled and the night grew darker, the Moomins could hear the sound of soft footsteps approaching. And then, from the shadows, the Moominmamma emerged, her eyes glowing with malevolent intent as she reached out to embrace them all.The Moomins screamed in terror as they were pulled into the darkness, never to be seen again. And in the silence that followed, the only sound was the Moominmamma's chilling laughter, echoing through the empty valley.
― ledge, Sunday, 4 December 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link
classic snufkin
― mark s, Sunday, 4 December 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link
Count Magnus was underwhelming on several levels. I swear I take no joy in this, and if i was less hungover and more energetic would have a good think about what's wrong with the commissioning process, the cultural expectations and a bunch of other non-Gatiss factors that wind up with these rote simulacra of past glories. Schalcken the Painter was on BBC4 the night before and tho that has a few minor issues of its own the yawning gulf in quality and ambition probly just soured Magnus even more.
at least if it was bad that would've been something
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2022 08:34 (one year ago) link
no wait, one more thing. Adaptation is adaptation, fine, it's not just about faithfulness to the source text. but what fucking use is a Count Magnus with all of the horror and dread flattened out of it?
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2022 08:37 (one year ago) link
didn't realise it was on - will have to fit it on over the next few days. stoked for the disappointment. not sure whether my memory is up to its usual tricks, or I've never heard of schlacken the painter.
― ledge, Saturday, 24 December 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link
it's been discussed somewhere this year i think? if not this thread, then maybe Wyrd Britain or one of the old TV movie threads
it isn't a strictly functional ghost story maybe, but it pisses over this latest effort
― partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
magnus is a pmtough ask translating across mediums IMO but trust gatiss to fvck it up lol
― mark s, Saturday, 24 December 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link