The Malz Age of Science Fiction is 75.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 April 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link
in GALAXIES he literally points out the spots where an author could pad this novel out or even create a series
but that was too much for him, even if writing crime novels or porn was the alternative. is that better than fan service?
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 April 2022 03:16 (two years ago) link
Even or especially PKD, sometimes living on speed and visions of the Dark Haired Girl, pizza deliverer with the Christian fish symbol earring, told Malz to suck it up or go home, so maybe that's why he went.
― dow, Friday, 15 April 2022 05:02 (two years ago) link
(also bravely living on cat food when couldn't afford Earthly pizza deliverance)
― dow, Friday, 15 April 2022 05:03 (two years ago) link
Never heard that before about PKD’s advice to BNM. Where did you come across it?
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 April 2022 12:03 (two years ago) link
Did just learn some stuff from his Wikipedia page.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 April 2022 12:06 (two years ago) link
Like this.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 April 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link
Or this, two weeks and a day late.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 April 2022 13:13 (two years ago) link
Looks like there's quite a lot of SF on Malzberg's CV after the 70s, a good chunk of it is collaborations and he's still doing it.
I'm quite pleased about the variety of new things Somtow is doing, serials including weird high school romance, regency romance with SF, a religious series and a historical novel about Sporus; maybe restarting Vampire Junction. Really hope he finishes his new Inquestor series because I adore that (haven't got to the new parts though). Don't know what's happening to Dragonstones, I should ask him.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 April 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link
Wow, Screen even got a fancy audiobook treatment.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 April 2022 01:01 (two years ago) link
Maybe I will finally read Herovit’s World if not The Falling Astronauts.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 April 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link
Have you read any other Malzberg, mookie, or do you plan to?
― Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link
Malzberg has a habit of trudging grimly through almost the entire length of the work, and then powering up on the last page. He does that in Galaxies, Herovit's World, and a number of other things I've read.
― alimosina, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:44 (two years ago) link
Herovit’s World starts out pretty strong, I think, but I have only read the first few chapters.
― Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 05:04 (two years ago) link
Didn't know Ben Burgis is the brother of Stephanie Burgis. Admittedly not something a lot of people talk about
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 24 April 2022 11:57 (two years ago) link
Mark Valentine on Wormwoodiana:
Ghosts in the Machine is an exhibition of black & white images hosted by Bower Ashton Library, Bristol, for World Book Night 2022. Contributors were invited to create an image responding to the theme and also to name a favourite ghost story.These included stories by M. R. James, Shirley Jackson, John Ajvide Lindqvist, Pierre de Ronsard, Fritz Lieber, Toni Morrison, Jan Pienkowski, Pu Songling, Astrid Lindgren, Aoko Matsuda, Stanisław Herman Lem and Daphne du Maurier.There were 93 spectral contributions from participants in Australia, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Singapore, Sweden, Taiwan, UK, and the USA.My own contribution, ‘Phantoms’, is one of a series of manipulated pages from The English Catalogue of Books for 1937, edited by James D. Stewart (London: The Publishers’ Circular, Limited, 1938). I nominated Flower Phantoms by Ronald Fraser.The exhibition runs from Weds 13th April – Weds 29th June 2022 and the complete set of images is available as a free PDF (scroll down the Ghosts in the Machine page for the link.
These included stories by M. R. James, Shirley Jackson, John Ajvide Lindqvist, Pierre de Ronsard, Fritz Lieber, Toni Morrison, Jan Pienkowski, Pu Songling, Astrid Lindgren, Aoko Matsuda, Stanisław Herman Lem and Daphne du Maurier.
There were 93 spectral contributions from participants in Australia, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Singapore, Sweden, Taiwan, UK, and the USA.
My own contribution, ‘Phantoms’, is one of a series of manipulated pages from The English Catalogue of Books for 1937, edited by James D. Stewart (London: The Publishers’ Circular, Limited, 1938). I nominated Flower Phantoms by Ronald Fraser.
The exhibition runs from Weds 13th April – Weds 29th June 2022 and the complete set of images is available as a free PDF (scroll down the Ghosts in the Machine page for the link.
― dow, Sunday, 24 April 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link
I just finished Tamsyn Muir's Gideon the Ninth. I knew going in that it was lesbian astronaut necromancers, but I didn't know it was also a closed circle murder mystery. Great stuff. It got mentioned on Jeopardy last week so I guess it's a popular book.
― adam t. (abanana), Monday, 25 April 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link
i also liked that a lot
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 April 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link
Daily Mail and Kiwifarms and some other news sites have been going after Gretchen Felker-Martin (apparently Manhunt kills JK Rowling in an amusing fashion) and I hope this all turns out well for her. As far as I can tell most of this notoriety has come from her being opinionated about pop culture on twitter and her tv reviews because there's lots of outrageous horror writers who never get any attention regardless of how skilled they are.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link
Well, mostly it comes from her being a trans woman and the right wing press taking any chance they can get to attack a trans woman and cast JKR as the victim.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 09:35 (two years ago) link
read KSM's 2312. i don't think these comments are actually spoilers, but just in case
humanity has colonized nearly every vaguely habitable rock/ball of ice between mercury and saturn, mars is fully terraformed, venus is in the process, plans are bandied about for the larger moons of jupiter and saturn. humans in space are doing very well; theirs is even referred to as a 'post-scarcity society'.
earth, however, is a hot mess, with 11 billion people, nearly 500 sovereign states, and a fried environment. it is reliant on spacers for a significant quantity of its food (???) as well as minerals and such.
the titular year is presented as a crisis point that may decide the future of humanity. big questions are raised: if earth collapses into full-on chaos, can the colonies survive? can its biome be healed? are our artificial intelligences becoming sentient?
these are mostly hand-waved away. most of the book seems like an excuse for the main characters to flit about the solar system (mercury to saturn is a 16-day trip, and apparently does not require money?) doing neato things like surfing the rings of saturn or dancing just ahead of the approaching sunrise -- which will boil you in moments -- on mercury.
of course it's well-written. there are classic KSM set pieces and some interesting and detailed sciencey bits, but other sciencey bits either bear little scrutiny or are simply stated as facts no matter how unpersuasive. and the ~portentiousness~ of it all is ultimately unearned. so i liked it but also found it disappointing.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link
Sounds like what I had reservations about in Green Earth, which I posted about on one of the previous Rolling Speculatives: main idea was, climate disruption is really going to suck for a lot of people, but with some surprising perks, at least early on: flooding of DC results in Fed Parks squatters trading Thoreau passages on DIY localnet (so green neo-cyberpunk to that extent). But he's an outdoorsman enough to provide some wonderful New England coastal and California mountain visits, along with thriller-y elements and a maybe-mystical situation involving eco-refugee monks: seems too gimmicky sometimes,and maybe he should not have lost detail by mixing trilogy down into this one novel---but if you like him at all, and are ready for some disappointments, it's worth checking out; I learned some stuff without feeling lectured.
― dow, Thursday, 28 April 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link
audio interviewhttp://www.scottedelman.com/2022/01/21/usman-t-malik/
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:22 (two years ago) link
Yet another sequel anthology of women authors but oddly this one goes even further back in timehttp://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?888549
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:16 (two years ago) link
Stan at his best is the best. Stan phoning it in is, as you say, portentous.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link
Which of his do people think are the best ones? He’s written so many.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:49 (two years ago) link
I was introduced to him through his Three Californias Trilogy, and that's still my favorite.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link
Thanks. What about The Green Earth Trilogy?
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:38 (two years ago) link
I haven't read that one, although it appears to be on his preachy side. The Mars Trilogy was solid.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 00:09 (two years ago) link
The Green Earth I mentioned---maybe first volume of a trilogy now? Can't keep up with this guy---is itself a mixdown of the Science in the Capital Trilogy: Forty Signs of Rain, Fifty Degrees Below, and Sixty Days and Counting: supposedly tighter (he said he was inspired by the way Peter Matthiessen turned his Watson Legend Everglades Trilogy into Shadow Country, but seemed too all over the place for me, too spacey and glib and impulsive---not that I didn't enjoy it in those terms, and sympathize with him and his characters pushing against the patience of eco-decline by working hard, also playing hard, which some of them def made time for---which is why I wondered if the original books may have had more grounding, though he seems well aware of his rep for going on and on in very great detail, like the hard science fiction overlords of yore----anyway my favorite was The Wild Shore, as far as I got in the Three Californias, alas
― dow, Sunday, 1 May 2022 04:08 (two years ago) link
Also, I first knew of him as a writer of short stories, believe it or not, in Asimov's. Well, and novellas---if interested, try the 1992 collection Down and Out in The Year 2000 (gotta dig up my copy).
― dow, Sunday, 1 May 2022 04:12 (two years ago) link
The central character of Green Earth started out as a dour, tightassed researcher, but soon seemed like he, man of the present century and not that old, had grown up smoking pages of his parents' or grandparents' Whole Earth Catalogs, which was odd, but pulled oldie me along, and reminds me there's a Stewart Brand bio just out.
― dow, Sunday, 1 May 2022 04:18 (two years ago) link
I really liked Aurora, a sceptical take on the generation ship tale.
― buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Sunday, 1 May 2022 06:10 (two years ago) link
Back to SF with Isaac Asimov: FOUNDATION & EMPIRE (1952).
― the pinefox, Sunday, 1 May 2022 11:20 (two years ago) link
Pinefox, you mentioned on WAYR? that his Foundation Trilogy has no robots, but they do show up in some much later Foundation books; I won't tell you which ones.
― dow, Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link
read LESSER KNOWN MONSTERS OF THE 21ST CENTURY by kim fu
short stories; riyl kelly link
― mookieproof, Sunday, 1 May 2022 19:46 (two years ago) link
I didn't mean to say that this trilogy had no robots - my main point was that so far, it didn't contain aliens (but no spoilers if they appear later).
So far it rather oddly doesn't seem to contain robots; oddly because he had written key works about robots over the previous decade!
One thing that everyone says about Asimov is "he later wrote loads of books to connect his various sagas up", so yes, I think I knew that somehow he connected robot stories with the Foundation ones, which I believe resumed c.1982. I think I will finish the trilogy but then not read the later ones; it seems more worthwhile to go on with other SF.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 1 May 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link
iirc the later ones are better-written but perhaps unnecessarily muddy the waters
― mookieproof, Sunday, 1 May 2022 20:37 (two years ago) link
Some interesting stuff in here, the Malinda Lo book in particular (didn't catch the title) and the scarcity of old gay bookshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgmJmdXldKU
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link
FY50 challenge: fully incorporate women into the species
― youn, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link
One thing that everyone says about Asimov is "he later wrote loads of books to connect his various sagas up”
― Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link
rip patricia mckillip
https://www.tor.com/2022/05/11/patricia-a-mckillip-1948-2022
― mookieproof, Thursday, 12 May 2022 13:35 (two years ago) link
That's sad. Once her friend Pat Cadigan said she stays away from the internet noise and I hope that wont leave her increasingly unknown but I guess she was successful enough she didn't have to self-promote much?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 May 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link
It's interesting, she seems like an important figure, but hardly any news sites are picking this up.
― jmm, Thursday, 12 May 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link
I looked around twitter and there are plenty of mourners, in spanish and japanese too
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 May 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIjGgC9qBP4
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 16 May 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link
This book has been in the making for a very long time, so I hope there will be a cheaper edition eventuallyhttp://www.centipedepress.com/horror/feestersinthelake.html
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 May 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link
I'm reading Beyond the Hallowed Sky by Ken Macleod, good fun but decidedly un-hard SF. They often get mentioned in the same sentence but it does feel very much like Iain Banks - bit of politics, bit of espionage, bit of handwavy implausible technology, maybe a bit less sarcasm. It's set in the 2070s after global political upheavals and the invention of AI but you don't get the sense that either of those things has particularly changed the world, the first is just background and the second just part of the plot - a plot which is often very conveniently advanced, e.g. the AI can predict things except when it doesn't, manual overrides are implausibly but helpfully available just at the right moment. Still it's pretty much fulfilling my periodic need for some sensawunda and thrill-power.
Before that, Notes from the Burning Age by Claire North, fantasy tinged post apoc spy thriller which plays out as a battle and a conversation between eco hippies and disaster capitalists, i read it quickly enough but didn't fully buy into it for some reason, maybe it was lacking in shades of grey, maybe the main bad dude wasn't convincing, a james bond villain masquerading as an éminence grise.
― buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Friday, 27 May 2022 08:40 (two years ago) link
Looked through local library SF shelves, took out Asimov's THE CAVES OF STEEL. Looking forward to making time for this.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 May 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link
read BRAKING DAY by adam oyebanji
entertaining take on a colony ship as it, after ~130 years, approaches its destination . . . and not everyone is happy about it
respect to the author for living in pittsburgh; thorough disrespect for having characters order 'pittsburgh lite' beers
hardly groundbreaking but a nice lil sf mystery type thing
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 May 2022 04:27 (two years ago) link