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read THE LOST TIME ACCIDENTS by john wray. published by FSG so, you know, not *really* genre fiction

in 1905 a czech pickler suggests that time travel is possible (before being immediately run down by a very slow car). his descendants spend the next century trying to prove or disprove that suggestion in various ways (one of which involves running a nazi extermination camp)

many reviews seem to compare it to 'slaughterhouse five' because there's time travel and ww2. i would also compare it to 'little, big' apart from the fact that the protagonist is named after a josef mengele stand-in and there are no fairies, just nazis

also while i'm very familiar with the endings of SF novels being let-downs, this one took for fucking ever to get to.

(iirc i did like 'THE RIGHT HAND OF SLEEP' by this guy, but that was long ago)

mookieproof, Friday, 19 August 2022 01:12 (two years ago) link

also there was a manic pixie dream girl ffs

mookieproof, Friday, 19 August 2022 01:15 (two years ago) link

Great revive

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 August 2022 02:32 (two years ago) link

Mark Valentine in Mercurius Magazine:

What is a terrestrial zodiac? One good definition is from John Billingsley, editor of the long-running Northern Earth journal: “A coherent set of zodiacal or quasi-zodiacal symbols outlined by features of the landscape. Generally not thought to be human-made, their empirical existence is strongly questioned.”

He tells me: “Terrestrial zodiacs can be viewed as a kind of ‘attuned artwork’ emerging from the imagination of individuals finding a particular affinity with an area of landscape that lends itself to patterning, through an interaction of natural form and human impact.”

...Probably the earliest, and certainly the most renowned, example is the Glastonbury Zodiac, identified by the sculptor and mystic Katharine Maltwood in the 1920s. The inspiration for this was a rich nexus of myths and legends that had grown up around the Somerset town, connecting it to King Arthur, whose grave, with Guinevere, the Abbey once claimed to have: and the idea that Glastonbury was therefore the Isle of Avalon. She drew inspiration from the medieval High History of the Holy Graal and in one of her later books designated the zodiac as ‘King Arthur’s Round Table’.


https://www.mercurius.one/home/terrestial-zodiacs-in-britain

dow, Saturday, 27 August 2022 02:51 (two years ago) link

fwiw i also strongly question their empirical existence

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 August 2022 03:08 (two years ago) link

That Wray book sounds terrible. Strongly disklike that "what if historical Pynchon but bloke-lit" micro genre (although I can only think of Wray and Ned Beauman as examples), it's just Ready Player One in fancy clothes.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 27 August 2022 11:14 (two years ago) link

Ugh

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 August 2022 13:19 (two years ago) link

Re: that scene in Vance's Dying Earth. It's on my bucket list to find the right moment to repeatedly shout "avaunt" at someone.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

Finally - more Zelazny reprints lined up for 2022/2023 pic.twitter.com/ry4MBblAMW

— Balázs Farkas (@fbdbh) August 31, 2022

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link

Wonderful article about Thomas Disch by Gregory Feeley
https://www.blackgate.com/2022/08/30/thomas-m-disch-love-and-nonexistence/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:48 (two years ago) link

Looks good, thanks!

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 September 2022 23:24 (two years ago) link

We are pleased to report the 2022 Hugo Award winners! https://t.co/z0AC8CXe1A

— Tor.com (@tordotcom) September 5, 2022

mookieproof, Monday, 5 September 2022 04:06 (two years ago) link

Afraid to click.

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2022 13:15 (two years ago) link

most of the winners published by tor

can somebody explain tor to me?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 September 2022 13:37 (two years ago) link

I knew at one point but that was in the time of the previous thread.

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2022 14:53 (two years ago) link

They are the biggest american publisher and their website (which mostly reports about franchise junk films/tv) is popular. But they deserve credit for being the only big publisher with some commitment to novellas. And they're voting demographic (which pays for participation) skews a certain way since puppygate.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

their voting demographic

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

Also: recently learned that one puppygater went on a killing spree, murdering people who he fantasized about murdering in a novel he written

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

One of those adjacent-category Hugo nominees---was hoping for an anthology, but might be good essays etc.:

Dangerous Visions and New Worlds: Radical Science Fiction, 1950 to 1985...contains over twenty chapters written by contemporary authors and critics, and hundreds of full-color cover images, including thirteen thematically organised cover selections. New perspectives on key novels and authors, such as Octavia Butler, Ursula K. Le Guin, Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, John Wyndham, Samuel Delany, J.G. Ballard, John Brunner, Judith Merril, Barry Malzberg, Joanna Russ, and many others are presented alongside excavations of topics, works, and writers who have been largely forgotten or undeservedly ignored.

dow, Monday, 5 September 2022 20:24 (two years ago) link

Also: recently learned that one puppygater went on a killing spree, murdering people who he fantasized about murdering in a novel he written

what? really?

ledge, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 07:38 (two years ago) link

He was an extremely minor writer and I hadn't heard of him and there's a chance the others who were boosting him didn't even read his books, there used to be lots of them giving each other rave reviews who were ideologically opposed in many ways, but some of them really do despise each other. Doris is very good at covering right wing nutjobs in the scene

Since another "superversive" is doing the viral rounds, here's a reminder that the ranks of superversive-approved authors include an actual spree killer. pic.twitter.com/iRHbi2lNO5

— Doris V. Sutherland (@DorVSutherland) August 5, 2022

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 12:43 (two years ago) link

I just started Remnant Population (one chapter in), and the prose is kind of bad, or at the very least, awkward. Does its quality get better?

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:55 (two years ago) link

no imo

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link

More from Mark V:

When I began exchanging zines, tapes, and mail art with an array of correspondents, one of those I chanced upon was Mark Pawson. A friend had said to me that my envelopes were a bit boring (whatever might be said for the inside contents): his were always festooned with weird stickers and stamps. Fortunately, Mark P had the answer. He produced trapezoidal envelopes... But that wasn’t all Mark Pawson produced: there were all kinds of strange, swirling paper objects, and he was amazingly prolific. You never quite knew what would fall out of the envelope.

The same Mark Pawson (it can only be he) at Disinfotainment is still offering a bewildering and bizarre array of publications and products. You can get, for example, Monsterama, a scrapbook of imagery from vintage SF and horror films and comics, now in its third issue. Recently announced are reprints of futuristic, apocalyptic graphic novels by cyberpunk artist Tetsunori Tawaraya.


More, w links and comments:
http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2022/09/the-trapezoidal-envelope.html

dow, Thursday, 8 September 2022 01:08 (two years ago) link

For UK punters, I keep meaning to say that Fopp in Glasgow - and I'm guessing Fopps elsewhere - have some of those British Library SF anthologies in their 2 for 7 pounds deal. Three pounds fifty is about the right price for them - the ones I've sampled are a slightly creaky mix of much-anthologised classics eg ('A Martian Odyssey' by Stanley Weinbaum) and even older obscurities, handily out of copyright. Editor Mike Ashley (not the etc etc) is an old hand at these kind of things, and plainly knows his stuff, and the design is very nice.

https://shop.bl.uk/collections/science-fiction

I'm hoping that some of the British Library's supernatural series also turns up in Fopp.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:37 (two years ago) link

read NONA THE NINTH by tamsyn muir, the third entry in her now-four-book locked tomb series

it was fine and i will absolutely read the fourth/final entry when it comes out next year (presumably)

but also i thought the first one (GIDEON THE NINTH) was fantastic, and these two sequels have not really measured up. (if you're gonna write a series, please try not to introduce an omnipotent character at the end of the first volume, because any subsequent conflict is totally contrived)

nevertheless i enjoy her writing -- she's also pretty funny -- and look forward to future things in which she hasn't painted herself into a corner

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 02:54 (two years ago) link

i put gideon the ninth down in the third chapter - i gotta pick it back up! i really liked it, not sure why i didn't keep on with it.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 15:46 (two years ago) link

spent half my birthday reading SPIN by robert charles wilson

i've only read this and THE CHRONOLITHS from him, which . . . iirc isn't *wildly* different? also he seems to have written at least two novels in which some alien object lands in the northern central united states and is quarantined by the government before it inevitably gets out of control

that said, SPIN's main Thing is super interesting and the government intervention isn't nearly as annoying/nihilistic as it was in late 70s pohl

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2022 04:45 (two years ago) link

Today’s Caption This: pic.twitter.com/oJi58Xg11c

— Seán Ono Lennon (@seanonolennon) September 25, 2022

dow, Sunday, 25 September 2022 16:52 (two years ago) link

RIP Coolio, just 59. Many years ago, I spent a week with him for a magazine cover story (Details, March 1996). He grew up an asthmatic kid in Compton; as an adult, he was funny and sly and complicated. I hope he's riding dragons somewhere.

The opening of the article: pic.twitter.com/WfoqlkMpsz

— Gavin Edwards (@mrgavinedwards) September 29, 2022

mookieproof, Friday, 30 September 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link

I'm reading Purgatory Mount by Adam Roberts, who I've never heard of despite his having a 20 year award winning career. His prose is effervescent, seems like one of those writers who really loves language which seems rare in this genre(*), or at least in the books I pick.

(*) sturgeons' law applies obv.

ledge, Friday, 30 September 2022 08:14 (two years ago) link

I'm reading Purgatory Mount by Adam Roberts, who I've never heard of despite his having a 20 year award winning career. His prose is effervescent, seems like one of those writers who really loves language which seems rare in this genre(*), or at least in the books I pick.

(*) sturgeons' law applies obv.


I think you would like The Thing Itself.

toby, Friday, 30 September 2022 13:08 (two years ago) link

That Coolio story is amazing.

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Friday, 30 September 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link

B. Catling has passed away. I wondered how there could be 2 documentaries about him but he was in Alan Moore and Iain Sinclair's circle.

Really impressed that my friend now has a Zagava collection, he's made a bunch of graphic novels and his prose debut was at Tartarus so he's doing pretty great
https://zagava.de/shop/the-lights-and-other-stories?edition=19

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 1 October 2022 16:38 (two years ago) link

I think you would like The Thing Itself.

that actually rings a bell, though not sure what kind of bell - maybe i added it to one my many 'to read' lists then forgot about it - but yes I think you might be right.

ledge, Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

That one is in James Redd's Infinite Library of ebooks purchased but barely started and never finished.

If The Damned Are United (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link

The original cyberpunk anthology is online for free. I wish it was a pdf
https://www.rudyrucker.com/mirrorshades/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link

it'll be easy enough to convert to an epub and from there to anything i think. ilxmail me.

koogs, Sunday, 2 October 2022 09:49 (two years ago) link

"Note that I do not grant you the right to convert, to republish or to sell the free ebooks or the contents of the free webpages."

so, er, don't ilxmail me.

koogs, Sunday, 2 October 2022 09:56 (two years ago) link

although "html to pdf" turns up a heap of sites that'll do this for you

there also java, javascript, python and c# libraries that claim to do it if you have the coding chops.

koogs, Sunday, 2 October 2022 10:02 (two years ago) link

I have the bottom left copy, can recall a few of the stories - gernsback, petra, m in m, all 4/5, though if they count as cyberpunk it's in form not content.

ledge, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:08 (two years ago) link

There should be a science fiction genre for environmental, economic, and social planning that focuses specifically on the planning aspects.

youn, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link

Seems like KRS's Mars trilogy involves a lot of planning? Judging by comments on previous Rolling Speculative threads.

dow, Friday, 7 October 2022 00:02 (two years ago) link

That’s what jumped right to my mind as well

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link

no idea if this would fit but I came across it the other day and thought it looked interesting: https://www.commonnotions.org/everything-for-everyone

ledge, Friday, 7 October 2022 06:22 (two years ago) link

Just watched one of those docs about Brian Catling. Had no idea he'd been a fine artist (especially performance arts) for most of his life. Shirley Collins was in it too. And Ray Winstone. Didn't realize BBC were still doing things like Arena.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

read THE PARADOX MEN (novella 1949, fix-up 1953) by charles l. harness

pretty decent imo; deserves a slot alongside (or above?) alfred bester

mookieproof, Monday, 17 October 2022 05:48 (two years ago) link

also frank herbert totally stole the personal-shield-that-only-the-slow-blade-penetrates from ^^^

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 05:42 (two years ago) link

The Irish literary magazine Poetry Bus edited by Collette O’Donoghue and Peadar O'Donoghue bears on its masthead a Mark E Smith quotation: “If you’re going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly.”

The latest issue, Poetry Bus 10, includes my 16-line poem 'With The Great God Pan in Whitby'. This was inspired by one of the memorable occasions of the original Arthur Machen Society, a weekend in the North Yorkshire harbour town when Mark E Smith, singer and songwriter with The Fall, joined us, with his girlfriend. We met at The Angel, where Machen had stayed, and explored other places associated with his visit.

MES was a keen Machen fan and wanted to hear about the Welsh writer’s stay there during the First World War, as a reporter investigating rumours of suspicious activity on the cliffs. There was nothing in the reports, but instead Machen filed pieces for his paper, the Evening News, on ‘Wonderful Whitby in the Moonlight’, and on the town’s famous trade in jet jewellery. The stay also inspired his atmospheric story ‘The Happy Children’.

The poem recalls some of the, er, interesting incidents of this Whitby encounter with MES.

This well-designed paperback offers 55pp of contemporary poetry from a diverse international line-up.

(Mark Valentine)

Link to magazine in original of this post:
http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2022/09/with-great-god-pan-in-whitby.html

dow, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link

excellent! v vaguely seem to remember this being partly covered or mentioned in The Fall fanzine The Biggest Library Yet, tho it’s a loooong time ago now.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 07:22 (two years ago) link


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