Everything is Whirling and Twirling! What Are You Reading this Summer 2023?

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I am listening to Phoebe's reading of Jane Eyre. It's been probably 30 years or so since I last read this book. While the protagonist does come off as somewhat unbelievably good, it's still a very moving story with more subversive elements than are immediately apparent, and her prose is razor-sharp. I love all the Brontes, but this may be the best of the lot.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 June 2023 23:15 (one year ago) link

Hmm, "good" isn't the first word that comes to my mind for J. Eyre; what strikes me more is her absolutely flawless bullshit detector. Just an extraordinary level-headedness and common sense and capacity for self-preservation, and the ability - at nineteen or twenty - to project into the future and see how a given decision that's being pushed on her is likely to turn out. She's equally good at explaining why she can't go off with Rochester and why it would be a bad idea to let St. John hypnotize her into doing the missionary thing.

Lily Dale, Friday, 23 June 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link

Oh, no doubt, her clarity of thought is remarkable. I just think she is a bit incredible as a model of virtue (and I realize that that is largely intentional and, to some degree, subversive).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 June 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link

I haven’t read Jane Eyre since high school— I loved it then. Should give it another read!

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 June 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link

I'm reading Ronald Ayling (ed), O'CASEY: MODERN JUDGMENTS (1969). Quite enjoyable.

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 June 2023 07:58 (one year ago) link

I've come to the conclusion that I can't read in June. I get infected with a kind of midsummer madness and can't settle. I've been flitting between a bunch of things: David Macey's biography of Foucault, which is good but very dense; Martin Gayford's *The Yellow House*, the story of the nine weeks Van Gogh spent together in Arles; and a few short bits and pieces: a re-read of Freud's *The Uncanny*, Stevenson's chapters on dreams, and Maupassant's *The Horla*.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Saturday, 24 June 2023 09:31 (one year ago) link

I finish rereading Sean O'Casey's 2-act play THE SHADOW OF A GUNMAN.

This is very early O'Casey and you could say that shows. It's very broad somehow; rather winking and mugging in its approach. Characters say things like 'Kathleen ni Houlihan, your way's a thorny way' - sarcastically perhaps, but it still comes over as ham.

The play was originally called ON THE RUN and the trace of that remains in Donal Davoren saying 3 times 'I'll soon be on the run out of this house'.

What slightly remains of interest to me is Davoren, the poet, and Minnie Powell, the new woman (?) - there is something of interest about these as social types.

I feel that the play would be too dated, in a way, to re-stage now; but then again, I can imagine it being adapted and rewritten for, say, Iraq during US and UK occupation - or any more recent equivalent.

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 June 2023 12:17 (one year ago) link

Finished Bread and Wine, picked up Lawrence Abu Hamdan’s Live Audio Essays, a collection of transcriptions of his lectures and performances around the subject of sound, noise, and war, among other topics. Great book so far, reminds me of both Antin and Toufic

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 June 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

Hmm, "good" isn't the first word that comes to my mind for J. Eyre; what strikes me more is her absolutely flawless bullshit detector. Just an extraordinary level-headedness and common sense and capacity for self-preservation, and the ability - at nineteen or twenty - to project into the future and see how a given decision that's being pushed on her is likely to turn out.

This is spot on. I love how she never goo-goo over Rochester: he remains "ugly" to the end.

As it happens I'm reading Adelle Hay's Anne Brontë Reimagined.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

Terminal Boredom, Izumi Suzuki - Japanese boomer sci-fi author, back cover offers Le Guin as a comparison point. Three stories in, and every one of them deals with gender in some way. The one that's most explicit about this is I think also the weakest: written from the pov of a high schooler in an all female society, with male births a rarity and when they do happen the babies are instantly carted off to a detention centre. Can't expect a story from 1970's Japan to reflect our current gender views but there's quite a lot of essentialism in here and I don't know that there is much of a point, aside perhaps from such a society being so shocking to readers of the time that its mere depiction is its own purpose? Anyway, men are blamed for war but also for art, which is described as another ego trip; I don't think we're supposed to take this at face value tho, the same way we aren't supposed to accept the excuse that male babies are "filled with radiation". The female regime currently in power is authoritarian and fairly dystopian, though you could argue it's also a consequence of the patriarchy's previous regime leading to environmental collapse. Sapphic love is viewed in a very stereotypical Japanese way - schoolgirl crushes on "handsome" girls, but sex is not discussed at all and when the protagonist ends up sleeping with a runaway boy the experience is so alien to her that it seems the author assumes the society would be sexless. Also no mention of actual queerness, as opposed to a "well we need to organise society so now women couple up" rationalism.

The other two I enjoyed much more: second story is set in a world where randomly selected ppl are put into a coma, supposedly to wake up centuries later (though this is questioned); meanwhile, their conciousness can be inserted into the dreams of the person of their choosing. Protagonist allows friend whom she didn't actually like to come into her dreams, complications ensue. Now I'm on to one about a family of aliens trying to emulate human behaviour on a planet that used to be, but is no longer, populated by humans. Very funny stuff, daughter alien complaining that she never gets to go to the (non existant) discos while father alien tells her she would end up a hoodlum, and blames the (also non existant) motorbikes for the rise in juvenile delinquency.

In the second story the narrator muses that her friend's feminine behaviour makes her instinctively adopt a masculine posture, and decides in the end that she finds gender in general very frustrating. The alien family obviously has very fluid views: it is explained that for quite a few years there were two Son Aliens until they decided a Daughter Alien would make more sense and one of the "boys" just adopted this new guise. Much more to sink your teeth into with those aspects than in the first story.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 25 June 2023 10:46 (one year ago) link

The Gospel According to the New World by Maryse Condé

youn, Sunday, 25 June 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link

Bright boulevards, bold dreams : the story of black Hollywood by Donald Bogle,
after putting it on a backburner for the last month or so. Which is silly cos it is a really good read.
Does have a bit of a drag with chapters being about 100 pages long but does have subsections. Anyway, finding this quite enlightening about an era I Only semi know. I think I am far more familiar with white Hollywood of the time, I just got into the 1940s.
BUt writing is good and it does make me want to read more of his work and watch the more black orientated films of the era. Seemed to be too many films set in teh old South being made in the 30s and limited opportunity for black actors outside of them at the time.
I've just been reading about Lena Horne whose work I want to know more of and how she got to Hollywood after marrying young and having children. But her fame came after that anyway after her first appearing looking heavy after recently having had her first child. So glad she did manage to make it and set new standards for sophistication etc

& just finishing Walter Rodney How Europe Underdeveloped Africa . Have just been reading about comparative education in what Europe regarded as its colonies which basically just made work fodder and tried to stop Africans from getting educated above that role. Not sure how my Dad succeeded so shame I didn't get to read this before he died. I think this is being really disparaging about Kenya and especially the schools teh Kikuyu had set up, might be different in Luo areas but can't have been much different.

Stevo, Sunday, 25 June 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

Some light summer reading - Humble Pi by Matt Parker, "What happens when maths goes wrong in the real world" - entertaining, though mathematically entirely unchallenging.

ledge, Monday, 26 June 2023 08:35 (one year ago) link

Started a couple of books yesterday on finishing a couple of others.

Arlie Russell Hochschild The Managed Heart.
the book that gave the world teh term Emotional Labour looking at the idea of certain public facing jobs inherently including a level of work taht hadn't been recognised previously. She looks at stewardesses on a US airline and how they are forced to smile continually at the passengers as well as other forced external emotional signs. I've just started it so not got very far.
But does seem that i am recognising the text so wondering if I did actually get to read a copy when i first heard of teh book about 20 years ago. I know the University library had a copy and do remember at least handling that but for some reason didn't think I had actually read it. Anyway 20 years is quite an interval with a book so going to read or reread this over the next while. & it does seem pretty interesting.
Just seen her mentioning being married to an Adam in the preface. It seems she is the wife of the author who wrote King Leopold's Ghost. I had thought he had a famous wife but it was someone different. Oh well .Both interesting writers then.

David Graeber Bullshit Jobs
anarchist anthropologist lecturer/author's book on the then current workforce's plethora of meaningless jobs that seem to only exist to use up the worker's time without creating anything worthwhile. It is an expansion of an article he wrote for a magazine.
I haven't read Graeber before and have had thsi for a while and not sure why it has been backburnered other than losing itself into a to -read pile. I have been watching talks etc he did taht are up on youtube for the last few weeks. So thought i would start this, have a number of recent;y acquired books i meant to get into ASAP but can't do everything at the same time. I am enjoying his writing. Started this at like 2.30 this morning and nearly kept going with it then did manage to get to sleep.
So another one I am hoping to power through and the style does seem to lend itself to that.

Ted Gioia How To Listen To Jazz
American music critic talks about the process and criteria of telling good music from bad.
I have seen his name crop up in a few places and meant to read some material by him. I saw this title and thought it might be an interesting place to start. So far I've read the first chapter where he is talking about how to tell a rhythm section gels and if it swings. What speed the band is playing at for you to get a good sign of this.
Seems like an interesting book and I think it may trigger me to read a few others by him.

Fabulous Beasts Joseph Nigg
a collection of selections of work dating back to antiquity talking about the fauna populating the unmapped regions of the world. Interesting stuff, I was thinking particularly when I was reading it at the same time as Ed Yong's An Immense World which talked about the umwelt of known animals.
I'm currently on a section talking about medieval bestiaries. In these medieval writers are trying to apply the existence of animals talked about since the Greek and Roman empires in terms of how they support Christian credos. Which si quite interesting.
So book is interesting on a number of levels. The ideas of what animals are out there for a non global community and what it says about what they want to believe and why .
I think I was just walking round the library having a browse when i stumbled on this book and it has been backburnered for longer than I thought I would have it . But pretty interesting to read its contents.

Stevo, Monday, 26 June 2023 10:18 (one year ago) link

I have read the first 75 pages of the new Lorrie Moore I AM HOMELESS IF THIS IS NOT MY HOME and so far it has exceeded all my expectations. Thought the last novel was a car crash, and her recent reviews of Sally Rooney etc made me think she had really lost it. Still plenty of time for it to go off the rails but I am heartened by the quality of what I've read.

Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 26 June 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

I have it on reserve at the library. Dwight Garner was not amused.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 June 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

"new Lorrie Moore" are not words I need to see when I am in the homestretch of my dissertation, with no time for unrelated reading.

niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 June 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

Stevo, I've only read Bogle's first book, which includes Lena Horne also, don't know about overlap otherwise, but it was really good, with very vivid, nuanced appraisals---wiki sez:

Bogle's first book, Toms, Coons, Mulattoes, Mammies and Bucks: An Interpretative History of Blacks in Films, was published in 1973. In it, he identified five basic stereotypical film roles available to black actors and actresses: the servile, avuncular "tom"; the simple-minded and cowardly "coon"; the tragic, and usually female, mulatto; the fat, dark-skinned "mammy"; and the irrational, hypersexual male "buck".[2] In the second edition of the book, Bogle identified a sixth stereotype: the sidekick, who is usually asexual.
And it went on into relatively recent developments, prob more about those in some later books. Halle Berry brought his Dorothy Dandridge bio to the screen.
I've seen some unappealing quotes and descriptions in favorable reviews of Lorrie Moore's new novel, but Dwight Garner was not amused might well be a blurb, as far as I'm concerned (he can be okay up to a point).

dow, Monday, 26 June 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

His review of the recent Sam Shepard "biography" was terrible: slinging sneers around, no indication that Shepard ever did any worthwhile writing, that there might be something more to him than cartoon anecdotes.

dow, Monday, 26 June 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

Last night I took a brief run at Something Wicked This Way Comes, Ray Bradbury. I picked it up more or less as a 'name check' exercise, having heard about it and knowing nothing else. It was an immediate fail for me. Too directly aimed at kids (mainly boys) of roughly 11 to 15. And the writing style was a romanticized to within an inch of its life.

So now I'm re-reading Human Voices, Penelope Fitzgerald.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 June 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

Fitzgerald's run from Human Voices to The Beginning of Spring is incredible.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 12:16 (one year ago) link

yep

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link

I picked it up more or less as a 'name check' exercise, having heard about it and knowing nothing else. It was an immediate fail for me. Too directly aimed at kids (mainly boys) of roughly 11 to 15. And the writing style was a romanticized to within an inch of its life.

what's wrong with aiming books at boys?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link

I'd say nothing but it's fair to list "I'm not the demographic" as a reason to drop a book.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link

I’m….not so sure about that

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

Well, I was reading too much into it, “age demographic” does make sense to me. Otherwise the statement gives me pause

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

Read a few new chaps yesterday, and then today decided that I will try to read as much of I can of Olson’s The Maximus Poems at breakfast each morning until I finish. I’ve never read more than sections of it and his other work, and frankly never understood the hype or how his own theories are played out in the poems. But I’ve read much related to his work, and Prynne and a few others I admire were friends with him, so I figure: why not?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link

i must admit to being slightly disappointed in SWTWC it when i finally read it. love bradbury, just not this bradbury. SWTWC read more like stephen king or koontz (both no doubt influenced by him)

koogs, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

I read it I think on a trip to visit my Dad so mid teens and maybe just a little olkd for it. Thought it was an interesting book and I know they made a film of it in the early 80s.
So haven't read it in like 40 years but did enjoy it when I did.

I guess its visiting a scenario that has been used elsewhere but I did think it pretty good at the time.

Looking at IMDB for year film was made I think the film poster may have been the book cover on my copy so I was doing some more adult things at the time but still in my mid teens. Possibly in Kenya rather tahn NYC as i was first thinking but did occur to me that I might have been there.

Stevo, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link

And the writing style was a romanticized to within an inch of its life.
This would be my main concern. Have only read a few of his short stories (that I recall), but most of those were memorably small town or rural creepy, and at least one, about a Martian child who wanders into a desolate community of Earthlings, not knowing how to control the native ability to mirror images from the needy memories of these aliens (used for defensive purposes by adult Martians in other stories), is devastating (have suppressed memory of title).

dow, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 02:49 (one year ago) link

there are two 900+ page volumes of Bradbury's short stories out and they still don't contain everything that's in the various smaller collections afaict.

favourites, so far, are The Scythe, The Emissary (the one about the boy stuck at home and the dog that fetches for him) and, obv, There Will Come Soft Rains.

currently rereading Fahrenheit 451 and, short though it is, i can't help but feel it'd make a killer short story.

koogs, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 05:47 (one year ago) link

Ireland At The Crossroads Theresa O'Donohoe
book by an activist organiser about a situation arising from a DP centre being announced in Lisdoornvarna the small town/village that is best known for a matchmaking festival for horny farmers. She gets involved when a friend who attended teh initial information evening needs support to allow her opinion to be heard when right wingers take over the meeting and subsequent agenda. I think this was a really informative book since the way the author responded to things seems really rational and thankfully she had some related experience in activism. She sets up a welcomi9ng group and a FB page that then get misrepresented by the far right.
I found this a really fast read , took mew about 2 1/2 hours , some of that is because a lot of pages have reprints of screenshots from social media used during this. & her writing style is pretty clear. I can now pass this back to the library and get it to the next person waiting to read it. But yeah recommended. I think methods used may be more universal for welcoming incoming groups and dealing with the right wing.
Events described happened in 2018 and I think book came out this year.

I found a cheap copy of
Kate Lister Harlots, Whores and Hackabouts while looking through a sale box in a local bookshop because I had gone into town to get the O'Donohoe book.
I read this last year and do like teh author a lot. I listen to her podcast Betwixt The Sheets when it comes out twice a week .Did really want a copy of this so now have one. Still need to read her other book A Curious History of Sex though which I hope to remedy before long.

Stevo, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 10:39 (one year ago) link

I love Ray Bradburys stories but haven’t read any novel by him. I always lose patience.

o. nate, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 12:06 (one year ago) link

I’m counting Martian Chronicles as stories.

o. nate, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 12:07 (one year ago) link

Right

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link

I read SWTWC more than once as a kid, I do recall the prose style but I guess I just accepted it. Lots of memorable scenes and images have stuck with me.

Just started Alex Haley's Roots. Hopefully I will finally get to know what Sinead O'Connor is singing about in Mandinka.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link

it's an amazing story of how a slave ended up as chief engineer on the Enterprise D.

koogs, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

The soundtrack by the Everly Brothers is pretty good.

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

The John Lennon soundtrack would have been good too if Morris Levy hadn't tinkered with it.

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link

For good and ill, reading Bradbury is to be aware that he wrote, by his own admission, 'at the top of his lungs'.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

Which reminds me once again of Henry Kuttner telling a young Ray Bradbury: “You give away all your steam. No wonder you never finish your stories. You talk them all out. Shut up.”

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

"Try taking the fucking horn out of your mouth".

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

Was that for the Wes Anderson thread?

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link

what's wrong with aiming books at boys?

Alfred, please point out to me where I said there was anything wrong with aiming books at boys, because fuck me if I can see where that comment came from. What I thought I was saying was that I (as in me, this reader) couldn't find a toehold in the first several chapters capable of holding my interest, in part because I was far from the intended or ideal audience, which was children, mainly boys, entering their adolescence. We both know that any book can be a good book for the right audience.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 June 2023 03:56 (one year ago) link

Exploring the dark and twisted mind of Garth Marengi via his Terrortome; also started Joyce's Ulysses for some light relief.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 30 June 2023 09:24 (one year ago) link

xp accuracy of aim
power of throw
trying to quieten down the rest of the class in the aftermath
possibly parents suing?

Stevo, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link

Alfred, please point out to me where I said there was anything wrong with aiming books at boys, because fuck me if I can see where that comment came from. What I thought I was saying was that I (as in me, this reader) couldn't find a toehold in the first several chapters capable of holding my interest, in part because I was far from the intended or ideal audience, which was children, mainly boys, entering their adolescence. We both know that any book can be a good book for the right audience.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless),

I wasn't attacking you. Thanks!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 12:20 (one year ago) link

Listening to the audioboook of Papillon. Even if it's largely fictionalized (or borrowed), it's immensely entertaining. Of course, I can't not think of Steve McQueen as the narrator.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 30 June 2023 13:42 (one year ago) link

The Managed Heart Arlie Russell Hochschild
The book that introduced the idea of emotional labour. The idea that if one is doing a public facing job as well as physical work one is working with management of emotions e.g. keeping a fixed smile directed outwards regardless of the way one is feeling inside.
She is looking at reasons why and how so the various schools of the humanities are coming to play philosophy, sociology, anthropology, history etc which all have heavy venn overlap anyway. I'm finding it a ery interesting read. I may have read it a couple of decades ago so glad to be rereading it. I think if I'm remembering when right it would have been the summer f 2003 when I was reading a massive stream of different books while I still had access to the University library. Anyway recommended read.

Robert Conquest The Dragons of Expectation
Found this while walking around the library and it looked interesting.
He is virulently anti communist, but I am finding it to be a somewhat interesting read. Has me wanting to read James Burnham for probably closely related reasons. It's not very long so I'm reading it pretty fast.

Martin Bulmer (ed) Racism
A great selection of short pieces on teh subject of Racism in various forms . Has selections from a load of writers I really want to read more by . & has a great bibliography of further work that I need to look further into.
I let this slip onto teh backburner when I should have been reading it faster. I've read a load of other stuff in the time I've had it out from the library.
BUt now I'm back on it I really want to get it read.
Or more ingest the contents in a meaningful way. Maybe get a copy for further revisiting.

finished Joe Nigg's Fabulous Creatures last week and thought it was a very interesting read I'm glad i have read since it coversa lot of historical descriptions of imaginary and semi imaginary animals that inhabited the unmapped regions of the world.
It has introduced me to a couple of animals I hadn't been aware of previously . hadn't realised a Yale was an animal before.
It has me wanting to look further into the lore about unicorns and dragons now since there is a wealth of stuff I'm not fully familiar with.
IT was also interesting to read about the adoption of more classical animals in the medieval era as symbolic of Christian teaching. Deeply syncretic.

Stevo, Monday, 3 July 2023 10:44 (one year ago) link

For the last week I've been reading Sean O'Casey's AUTOBIOGRAPHIES.

This work comprises 6 columes. From the library I have a book with the last 3. I've been reading that. I've read all of volume 4: INISHFALLEN, FARE THEE WELL, and a fair amounrt of volume 5: ROSE & CROWN.

The book can be repetitive and self-indulgent. It mostly flows along. You confront the many pages thinking this would take a long time to read: then start reading and soon you're 30 pages further on. Thus it's often marvellously readable.

The volume I've read is about Ireland 1922-1926. Now I'm on England, c.late 1920s.

On the whole my respect for O'Casey has grown greatly in recent times. You can point to flows: as a writer he wasn't the most precise or beautiful; he perhaps didn't leave a large number of major literary works; he was quick to anger and self-defence, and might hold a grudge. Worst, his politics made him naive about Stalinism - arguably for longer than he should have been. And yet he was so open-hearted, generous, honest. He had a commitment to socialism and emancipation from inequality and poverty that was deeper than most writers'. He was sceptical about religious authority and dogma, while maintaining a sense of the wonder of nature and the world. An essay I've just read on his letters concludes by citing a number of letters he wrote to obscure people who'd written to him, including for instance an American housewife who was dismayed by the state of her life and the world. He took the time to reply at length, offering comfort and fellowship to these unknown people he would never meet. Few major writers have acted quite this way. O'Casey reminds me a little of Alasdair Gray: the eccentric ingenuousness, the instinctive kindness, the disarming directness.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 July 2023 13:12 (one year ago) link

xp The Worst Hard Time has the distinction of being the most severely panned book in my book club, which has now been running for more that 10 years and has read more than 100 books.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 03:18 (one year ago) link

Austen is gangsta

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 September 2023 03:44 (one year ago) link

Finished Matrix. Some lovely writing but it felt mostly like a straight line journey from beginning to end, no major diversions or setbacks or unexpected events. In other words somewhat lacking in plot.

On to The Swimming Pool Library.

lurch of england (ledge), Friday, 22 September 2023 08:02 (one year ago) link

Swimming Pool Library is another, like Famished Road, that has been sat over there on the shelf for 30 years. ha, in fact, they are literally next to each other

koogs, Friday, 22 September 2023 08:07 (one year ago) link

(unread / unfinished)

koogs, Friday, 22 September 2023 08:10 (one year ago) link

I gave up on The Famished Road last year.

lurch of england (ledge), Friday, 22 September 2023 08:12 (one year ago) link

King Solomon's Mines does this (offensive) thing where the white explorers encountering a hidden civilization pass themselves off as wizards by using their modern weapons, familiar to me from many a children's cartoon and Carl Barks comic but I wonder if this is where the trope started.

My fav instance of it is in the (I'm sure otherwise not very good) Martin Lawrence vehicle Black Knight where Lawrence, transported to medieval times, turns on his lighter and goes "look, FIRE!" and one of the rampaging villagers just goes "well, we have fire".

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 22 September 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link

David Olusoga Black & British
pretty decent history of black presence in Britain going back to Roman times.
It jumped forward to Tudor times to describe musicians at Henry VIII's court and then followed through teh start of the slave trade and hat it was easier to seize a shipment containing human cargo asa privateer than go through the whole process of buying from sourcel I've just read the cynical treatment of loyalists and black soldiers who fought for the loyalist side in the War of Independence in what was to become the States. & then gone through the scheme to move population incoming from that in Sierra Leone. Which I hadn't taken in previously was a combination of scam and wishful thinking by the guy who suggested Sierra leone. & that he had actually written an article/submission saying why the same place wasn't suitable as a penal colony shortly before suggesting it was a good place for a black colony.
Good book which I've meant to read for a long time but I've neglected since getting out of the library cos I'm in the middle of reading a stack of other things.

LUdd in the mist Helen Mirlees
fantasy novel that was a big influence on Neil Gaiman among others. & I was turned onto by reading his Welcome To The Cheap Seats recently.

Voodoo In Haiti Alfred Metraux
study from the mid 20th century looking at the syncretic religion and its effect on the population of the country it was prevalent in.
Its a bit racist, it is from 1947 so I guess that's to be expected. Probably could be a lot more so so maybe by comparative standards its like totally woke.
Pretty interesting and i think it is well known.
THink this was something I picked up from the bibliography of Federici's Caliban and the Witch . Another book I'm neglecting.

Bruno Bettelheim The Uses of Enchantment
Scholarly study on the subject of fairytales that I've meant to read for decades. THink I was looking at it the summer of 20 years ago and didn't get to read it

Toni Morrison Mouthful Of Blood
an anthology of shorter pieces by the black author. My current bathroom book

Stevo, Friday, 22 September 2023 09:30 (one year ago) link

> I gave up on The Famished Road last year.

it's almost as if i remembered this rather than just bringing it up at random 8)

took a bunch of books to amnesty last saturday, mainly modernish sf that i know i will never read again (utopia, altered carbon, windup girl) and things i've bought as ebooks since (american gods). maybe these should follow.

koogs, Friday, 22 September 2023 11:01 (one year ago) link

Just started Deacon King Kong by James McBride.

(I find myself making up thread titles for Aimless the way I sometimes make up baby names or others might play video games. I was trying to find a way to incorporate the moon or moonlight without much success. The moon can really light up one's path.)

youn, Friday, 22 September 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link

Deacon King Kong, otoh, was one of the most beloved book club reads. Fantastic book.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link

What were your book club's objections to The Worst Hard Time?

dow, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

I think it was just the sheer unremitting misery of the narrative. I actually found it engaging.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

Yeah, somehow he finds momentum in misery! Digging through the Dust Bowl.
The Big Burn might have more of that, moving with the crackling, drying flash of the fire, drying the melodramatic/disaster porn potential to plain detail and perspective and scale of physical=mental-emotional (also strategic and tactical) considerations, scale of aftereffects as well.

dow, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

(fwiw, wiki sez TWHT

won the 2006 National Book Award for Nonfiction[2][3] and the 2006 Washington State Book Award in History/Biography.
)

dow, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

I recently read the Keith Richards autobiography (with James Fox), "Life". I found it pretty enjoyable. At 550+ pages, perhaps it could've been trimmed a bit. The stories about the early days were the most interesting to me, and even though that "imperial" phase of the Stones only took up the first decade of their now 6+ decade run (5 decades at the time of writing), the book never completely lost my interest. For someone whose public image is taciturn, Richards seems rather loquacious in print. Not only that, he's a pretty decent raconteur, with a dry sense of humor and an ear for pungent turns of phrase. It seems like his two great loves in life are music, esp. blues and rock, and drugs, and he writes at length about both. The music parts were the more interesting parts for me. It would take a far more introspective writer than Richards to find something interesting to relate about the numberless drug experiences, which tend to become repetitive. But any way you slice it, he has lived an interesting life and managed to relate enough of it to carry the book, no doubt with the indispensable assistance of his co-author.

o. nate, Friday, 22 September 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

There Will Be Fire - Rory Carroll

vv compelling read, covering the IRA's plan to/failed attempt to assassinate Margaret Thatcher by bombing the Grand Hotel in Brighton. Not having known much about this story, it's fairly astonishing just how close they got to pulling off the unthinkable. The before mostly covers Thatcher's policies w/r/t Northern Ireland, bomber Patrick Magee's path towards this event, other bombings carried out, and the during is a fairly horrifying recreation of what actually occurred. The after is the tracking of the suspects, and the race to track down an IRA operative in Scotland who is part of a seemingly separate plot (and he is, but they're connected.) It achieves a nice balance without being "actually, both sides are etc etc..."

omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link

Like an old German I knew said of the failed plot to assassinate Hitler, the devil saved her.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

My third Richard powers, Bewilderment. kinda meh

calstars, Friday, 22 September 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link

Also recently finished Robinson’s the dark beyond the stars. Way too long

calstars, Friday, 22 September 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link

I am about 3/4 of the way through Harlem Shuffle. It's very well-written. Some passages are just gorgeous. However, if I'm comparing it to his last novel (which, tbf, won the Pulitzer), it seems a little . . . the words that come to mind are "light" and "directionless." It's more of a caper than anything weightier. I suppose it's unfair to expect every book from a writer to be as impactful as his or her best work.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, September 16, 2023

Haven't read Harlem Shuffle yet, but it is apparently the first part of a trilogy. The second book, Crook Manifesto, was just published this summer.

I really loved the two books I've read by him, The Underground Railroad (which won the National Book Award) and The Nickel Boys (The Pulitzer)

Dan S, Saturday, 23 September 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link

Going through Le Carré's books in order, I've now read or reread all of the Smiley novels - "Call for the Dead", "A Murder of Quality", "The Spy Who Came in from the Cold", "The Looking-Glass War", "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy", "The Honourable Schoolboy", and "Smiley's People".

I'm a long way away from "Legacy of Spies", the distant follow-up published in 2017

My next book is "The Little Drummer Girl" from 1983, which I remember being my favorite Le Carré at the time

Dan S, Saturday, 23 September 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link

I've heard that The Crook Manifesto is better than Harlem Shuffle, maybe more of a genre/lit (or at least character study) balance, like his zombie-hunting Zone One(clean-up of v.valuable Manhattan real estate, cause you know the plague is over). I really enjoyed that one.

dow, Saturday, 23 September 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link

still, the preview of Harlem Shuffle seemed promising: POV of a fence, usually a flat weasel in crime stories, here a scuffling small store owner lured into the shade.

dow, Saturday, 23 September 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link

How did you find Smiley’s People? Got it on the shelf, tempted if put off by the size. Certainly it opens well.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2023 08:29 (one year ago) link

It's time again to wind down this summertime thread and move into our shiny new digs at I'm in Love With Books and I Feel Fine! What Are You Reading in Autumn 2023?. See y'all there!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link

xp I really liked Smiley's People, it seemed more coherent to me than The Honorable Schoolboy and less difficult to follow than Tinker, Tailor, Soldier Spy (the two previous books), and brought the original series to a nice conclusion

Dan S, Saturday, 23 September 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link


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