Everything is Whirling and Twirling! What Are You Reading this Summer 2023?

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I hope "AI" is another typo there---

dow, Sunday, 9 July 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

I finished volume 5 of O'Casey's AUTOBIOGRAPHIES: ROSE & CROWN. Most of it takes place in England; the latter part in the US. It features dialogues with Stanley Baldwin and with ageing W.B. Yeats who asks O'Casey what Communism is and what is its spiritual value.

I am now reading more strategically chapters of volume 6, SUNSET & EVENING STAR. Highlights so far: a typical score-settling attack on a newspaper profile from 15 years before the book was published (O'Casey sure held grudges and took revenge cold), and a lengthy description of the University of Cambridge where he tells a Don that Dons mean nothing to most people and they don't deserve to have Parliamentary representation.

I continue to enjoy O'Casey's anti-clericalism and constant attacks on religious customs that he thinks are dead relics. He seems somewhat like one who believes in a god but not in religion, which may be a paradox.

the pinefox, Monday, 10 July 2023 09:20 (one year ago) link

O'Casey, vol 6, ch 5, enters uncomfortable territory.

At his home in Totnes, Devon, he's suddenly visited by three women, one of whom wants to impress on him the evils of 'your Soviet Union', which she says has kidnapped her husband.

O'Casey is dismissive and changes his own position no whit.

True, these women turning up out of the blue to lecture him may be impertinent, but history seems to have vindicated them. It's odd that with his general openness to thought he doesn't even reflect on the possibility that she might be partly correct about the direction of Stalinism.

His next chapter is a sustained frontal attack on George Orwell! Frankly, it's mostly unjust.

the pinefox, Monday, 10 July 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link

Looks like I finally read more than a hundred pages of a Patrick White novel, in this case The Vivisector.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 July 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

I'll bite: thoughts?

dow, Monday, 10 July 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

Only on pg. 136!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 July 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

Reading The Wager, by David Grann. It's a bit plodding, but gives a very good sense of just how grim ordinary life at sea in the 18th century could be, let alone for sailors who got stranded in Patagonia (after nearly dying of scurvy--a fascinatingly horrible disease).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 10 July 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

advanced scurvy is a real horror show. among other things your teeth fall out and all your old scar tissue dissolves so your old wounds open back up.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 10 July 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

Finished Roots, hugely impressive. A fairly simple (appalling and harrowing, of course) story, fairly simply told but with a real subtlety of character, and variety of characters. Towards the end you do get the impression he's just galloping through the genealogy though. I'm not really bothered by the controversy about his research, that it's a good and believable story is enough. The plagiarism is perhaps more unfortunate, maybe one day I'll read The African.

a holistic digital egosystem (ledge), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:09 (one year ago) link

Country music originals : the legends and the lost Tony Russell,
short biographies and career overviews of a load of early country performers of the 20s and 30s, I'm not as familiar with the genre as I'd really like to be. Have a number of titles from artists from this era but would like to know more. I think I'm a bit more familiar with the blues contemporary to this.
very interesting anyway. THis comes with suggested listening listed.

Linda Nochlin Women Artists
anthology of her writing over several decades.
I enjoyed her Why Have There Been No Great Women Artists which is included here and thsi would have probably been a better first choice for interlibrary loan request really.
She was a feminist art historian and her work is pretty readable.
Nice thick oversized book that I will try to make sure I read through.

Racism (ed) Martin Bulmer, John Solomon.
Great anthology of writing on Race by a lot of great writers I want to read more by. GOt backburnered way too much cos it is a really good selection.

Warrant for genocide : the myth of the Jewish world conspiracy and the Protocols of the elders of Zion Norman Cohn,
reprint of a 1967 work on the history of teh famous hoax document and much more of teh history of anti semitism.
I've read the introduction so far which looks pretty promising. I picked this up this afternoon after coming across it in a bibliography, I think of Dragons of Expefctation which seemed to be good for a number of books i need to look into further

Darker than blue : on the moral economies of Black Atlantic culture Paul Gilroy,
a collection of 3 texts based on speeches that Gilroy had given 10 yeas before publication.
Based on Gilroy's research into W.E.B. du Bois's thought.

The Managed Heart Arlie Russell Hochschild
her look into what she termed emotional labor . The interface a public facing worker has to have with teh public they are facing. In terms of faked smiles and other NVB. Also the consequences to the worker having to do this in terms of how faking things effects the authenticity of being able to access those emotions.
Pretty interesting read.

Stevo, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

I've meant to read Roots since seeing both tv adaptations. I think also seeing it turn up in a few bibliographies.

I also want to read Paaul Crooks who has managed to trace his family history back from London, through teh West Indies and back through the middle passage to find out where his ancestors came from in Africa. & has written books on how other people can do it too.
I've been to a few webinars he's put on which have been interesting.

Stevo, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

Had just been trying to remember something about Haley that was on the tip of my tongue. Thought it was something to do with the publication of Roots but I think it was probably more that it was him that edited the Autobiography of Malcolm X.

I think the original tv version was being released around the time i was in NYC for the first time visiting my dad for the summer.

I know I've had copies of the book for years but don't think I've read it still unless I did way way back at the turn of my teens in the wake of the tv show. I think the 2nd tv version is a lot more reflective of Africa having had civilisation including a visit to the University in Timbuktu. The original version has a far more minimalist take on life in Africa.

Stevo, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

he was more than the editor of rhe autobiography of malcolm x - Wikipedia calls him the co-author and goes into more detail on his contribution.

I'd be interested to see one of the TV versions. I learned today that in the original, young kunta kinte was played by levar burton in his first TV role.

a holistic digital egosystem (ledge), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

I read an excellent recent bio of the James family a couple months ago.

Sounds intriguing. The one I read sticks pretty closely to William, but since he and Henry were fairly close, despite living in separate countries for much of the time, there ended up being a fair bit about Henry in it, and the other James siblings as well. The book did inspire me to pick up a slim paperback of Henry James stories, as a gentle introduction to his work. I'm finding them enjoyable enough, especially "The Real Thing" which was fantastic, but there is something about his style (verbosity, perhaps?) that tempers my enthusiasm a bit.

o. nate, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link

> I learned today that in the original, young kunta kinte was played by levar burton

hence my hilarious joke:

> it's an amazing story of how a slave ended up as chief engineer on the Enterprise D.
> koogs, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:52

Americans know him from a thing called Reading Rainbow, like our Playschool i think, or Jackanory maybe, features heavily in an episode of Community

koogs, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link

i get it now!

a holistic digital egosystem (ledge), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 07:46 (one year ago) link

probably the biggest rags to riches story apart from that indian squaw ending up as president of the entire human race...

Dances with Wolves, Battlestar Galactica

koogs, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:10 (one year ago) link

Burton reappears in the 2016 version too.
I was thinking he was only in the original tv version for a short time and it was more John Amos who got to play the character as an older man. But haven't seen the series since around the time the later adaptation came out when I rewatched it.

Stevo, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:53 (one year ago) link

Robert Browning - Men and Women, Vol II
Hilda Hilst - Fluxo-Floema

The Hilst is really good. She was a Brazilian writer (read a couple by her before), and fully into the modernist project (Woolf, but also De Sade, the whole shebang). This was a set of short stories written in an almost incantory way.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

So! A hundred pages from the end of The Vivisector and White's losing me with his gender politics. This awful painter-egoist is fussing over his relationship with...a 13-year-old child savant.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

The Horse's Mouth did this sort of thing in fewer pages.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

That was a good one. But I never read the others or saw the movie for that matter.

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

The movie's fun!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

Guinness should've played more hellions.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

i read the Vivisector (muffled) years ago when i was in uni

the gender stuff i remember being very uncomfortable/ offputting but also i think i passed it off as being in context. oof. i think the parallels of my having read a lot of true crime & serial killer novels that that outlook was just acceptable or went unchallenged by me?
like his sociopathy is ok because there’s an end to it (art?)

i dunno if i could read it now

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

Hilda Hilst - Fluxo-Floema

The Hilst is really good. She was a Brazilian writer (read a couple by her before), and fully into the modernist project (Woolf, but also De Sade, the whole shebang). This was a set of short stories written in an almost incantory way.

Ohh, I read With My Dog Eyes and it was wild. Amazing writing, so full of bitter rage. I got The Obscene Madame D recently, it's in my to-read pile and I'm hoping to get to it reasonably soon but I've got so many unread things I don't know when that will be.

emil.y, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

I recently finished The Sympathizer by Viet Thanh Nguyen

Super intense! Love his writing. Level of detail is amazing, so much research & foreknowledge obviously went into it — it becomes a whole other thing when you then layer his specific perspective. In some ways it feels like it’s own category of historical fiction .. so much more immediate. it’s pretty incredible. And I really liked how angry his tone is, it feels quite, revolutionary. or something. maybe that’s the wrong word.

Last few chapters are wild, very disorienting (with good reason) it definitely stayed with me for a long time afterwards

Am also now halfway through The Gallows Pole by Benjamin Myers
Another one that has really grabbed me right away. Beautifully written, captures the immediacy of a historical time & place. It’s very tactile/sensory, you can see & feel everything so clearly, it’s like you’re astral projecting into the wild 18th century Yorkshire moors. Loving it.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 July 2023 23:11 (one year ago) link

I loved, loved, loved The Sympathizer. He hit just the right combination of humor, cynicism and horror.

I haven't read The Committed yet, but it's on the list.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 13 July 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link

Ohh, I read With My Dog Eyes and it was wild. Amazing writing, so full of bitter rage. I got The Obscene Madame D recently, it's in my to-read pile and I'm hoping to get to it reasonably soon but I've got so many unread things I don't know when that will be.

― emil.y, Thursday, 13 July 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Yeah those are the two others from her I've read. She was a poet too. Would really like a translation of it.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 08:28 (one year ago) link

Still moving through two longer books, but just finished Ed Steck’s A Place Beyond Shame, which is a meditation on horror movies, childhood sexual and physical trauma, addiction, horror movies, and the rust belt. It is harrowing and brilliant, best new book I’ve read this year.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

I've skipped some of Sean O'Casey's chapters on WWII, but will finish with his AUTOBIOGRAPHIES 4-6 for now. 600+ pages of O'Casey on O'Casey are enough for a while.

I commence his play PURPLE DUST, which is engaging. It depicts an old house in Ireland being refurbished on the orders of new English owners. To a degree the scenario, so far, is "wily Irish locals outfox the naive English incomers". I'm slightly reminded of CASTLE RACKRENT and of the first chapter of Ulysses. The language is much closer to Synge than any other O'Casey I've read. Which may emphasise how relatively unlike Synge O'Casey usually is.

A friend who used to be in the Irish army just passed on to me an introductory illustrated book on IRISH HISTORY. I feel like I should read it as it's a gift. On the earlier periods I have much to learn. So far Newgrange has been built.

the pinefox, Sunday, 16 July 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link

The Sympathizer by Viet Thanh Nguyen

this has been on my list for ages and this post was the nudge i needed. thanks!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 17 July 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link

yay :)

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

It's good!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 July 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link

I finally finished Leena Krohn's Collected Fiction, Vol. 1: The Novels. I say "finally" because it was a long and challenging read, which I picked up originally on Jeff VanDerMeer's recommendation. The collection started with the weakest of the lot, Doña Quixote, but got considerably better as it went on. The last three in particular were quite strong. Her style isn't really like anyone else's, although Borges may be an obvious comparison; Lovecraft too, in some of the more dreamlike aspects. Very much worth the read.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link

I've been reading early novels and stories of Forster and Henry Green. What Firbank should I try, if any? Library loan has Five Novels, Valmouth and Other Stories, Complete Plays, but I might could track down some others.

dow, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 03:24 (one year ago) link

Family Lexicon by Natalia Ginzburg. I know it's not a novel but loads of the reviews call it a novel - so far it doesn't read at all like one, her dad sounds like a real piece of work and i'm not tickled by any of her hilarious family anecdotes. But I'll stick with it.

a holistic digital egosystem (ledge), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 09:58 (one year ago) link

Is this your first experience? She was my big 2021 discovery (thanks, NYRB!).

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:07 (one year ago) link

Yeah - I was torn between this one and an actual novel.

a holistic digital egosystem (ledge), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link

re Firbank, there aren't many novels - I think that FIVE NOVELS will have the lot. THE FLOWER BENEATH THE FOOT is one to try I'd say.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 11:21 (one year ago) link

I finished reading Sean O'Casey's PURPLE DUST. It becomes rather a farce as the old house crashes down around the ignorant English interlopers. The Anglo / Irish clash of the plot is probably too crude, ie: the English are too readily sterotyped as fools; oddly, as O'Casey in his non-fiction makes plain his admiration for lots of aspects of England, where he lived for many years. The Syngean language actually increases near the end, followed by a great storm that reminded me of MOONRISE KINGDOM.

I then read O'Casey's play HALL OF HEALING, a one-act play in a Dublin doctor's waiting room. Mostly farce again, but with classic O'Casey tragedy at the end as well. A lot going on, many characters, and somewhat interesting on medicine and our ideas of what it can do. But not a major or deeply impressive work.

I've now read about 1400 pages of O'Casey in 2 or 3 months so will take a break from him.

I commence reading Beverly Cleary's FIFTEEN, a teen romance / angst novel from 1956. It's very mild; I don't think that the worst that can happen here is going to be very bad. I'd thought it might be 1970s or 1960s; the 1956 date intrigues me and makes me feel that this novel was written amid the 'birth of the teenager', was an early literary witness to this now storied era.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 11:27 (one year ago) link

xposts: think it was the five novels collection that i read which included all his "bigger" works.

recently been reading a number of late fifties/early sixties era green penguin thrillers by people i'd never heard of. last one was john welcome's run for cover: sort of buchan meets bond with a bit of ambler. one scene with the hero held prisoner in an enemy lair features a dialogue comparing pre-war fiction (proust, waugh, the above mentioned green) to the contemporary angry young man brigade of amis & wain, the latter of whom i'd coincidentally been planning on reading next in the form of hurry on down.

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link

reading THE HEAT WILL KILL YOU FIRST, re: climate change, and while it’s interesting and scary, the author is just not a good writer of sentences. i can’t remember the last non-fiction book in which i found the writing so off-putting (and the guy is a journalist, not a scientist)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 11:42 (one year ago) link

"one scene with the hero held prisoner in an enemy lair features a dialogue comparing pre-war fiction (proust, waugh, the above mentioned green) to the contemporary angry young man brigade"

Love this kind of thing!

Isn't there a discussion of T.S. Eliot and Hemingway in FAREWELL, MY LOVELY?

HURRY ON DOWN is very rewarding, hope you enjoy.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link

I commence reading Beverly Cleary's FIFTEEN, a teen romance / angst novel from 1956.


Pinefox, I would maybe put Beverly Cleary in top ten writers I wouldn’t expect you to read - up there with “Francine Pascal” and Stephen King.

I read her Ramona books when I was perhaps 8/9 and loved them. I waited my whole life to try graham & animal crackers cos of those books 🫣🫣🫣

a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 12:34 (one year ago) link

I'm most glad to know that anyone would have an opinion on the top ten writers I wouldn't read.

(I've read one King story but not more - I don't like horror in general, unfortunately. But I can see his ingenuity and productivity, from a respectful distance.)

I share your experience with the Ramona books - read them at around the same time in my life. And I think I shared your sense of an American world disclosed by those books.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link

Pinefox, I say this in utmost sincerity: I would like nothing better in my life than to hear your opinions of the Ramona books

a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link

I mentioned King btw cos my other half and his brother are both incredibly well read, and both of them constantly gang up on me for liking King.

a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

At a distance of decades, I can only say that I loved them, and they were possibly my favourite books at that time - say, the age of 7?

I recall RAMONA THE BRAVE, BEEZUS AND RAMONA, RAMONA AND HER FATHER, at least. I probably read each one more than once.

I would think that the things I liked most about them were a) their American quality, speaking of a particular culture; b) the peculiar truth to life that I found in many of the situations and phrases, which were also c) very memorable and repeatable.

I believe I still own them, hidden on a shelf. Maybe this should be encouragement to reread them. It's been a very long time.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link

Please!!!

I had Ramona Quimby, Age 8 and Ramona Forever. I read a couple of the others from the library but I knew those two best cos I owned them and reread a lot. I’m actually going home today, seriously tempted to do a bit of digging and see if I can’t find them.

a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 13:01 (one year ago) link


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