Patti Smith is worse than Dylan in terms of being overrated. The worst music that a lot of otherwise intelligent and taste-having people supposedly enjoy
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 9 October 2023 20:37 (eleven months ago) link
I’ve discussed this on the controp music thread— loathe Patti Smith, her poetry is awful, her associations with famous homosexuals doesn’t impress me
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 9 October 2023 20:38 (eleven months ago) link
Judging by his indifferent reaction, I'm not sure if anyone was more puzzled than Dylan that he won.
― Chris L, Monday, 9 October 2023 21:00 (eleven months ago) link
Can't remember who but someone on here noted how Tagore is a good example of the kind of poet-composer hybrid that has won the Nobel.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 October 2023 21:26 (eleven months ago) link
They gave it to a singer once before. Isaac Bashevis?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 9 October 2023 22:48 (eleven months ago) link
lol boooo
― symsymsym, Monday, 9 October 2023 22:57 (eleven months ago) link
lol
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:20 (eleven months ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, October 9, 2023
her music has resonated so much more with me than Dylan's. I don't hate Dylan's music though
that said, I think the Nobel committee should stick to writers, poets, and playwrights, there are plenty of them who haven't yet been acknowledged
― Dan S, Monday, 9 October 2023 23:41 (eleven months ago) link
*prose writers
― Dan S, Monday, 9 October 2023 23:43 (eleven months ago) link
fair enough— I also admit that given her near universal acclaim, that part of this is certainly a me problem. I tried, too. I have the vinyl of Horses somewhere. But after a while, I stopped trying. Should probably sell that record!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 00:07 (eleven months ago) link
Patti Smith will never get the Novel, don't worry!
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 07:37 (eleven months ago) link
I've enjoyed a fair amount of her music down through the ages, but first encounter was before she started doing that, when she was a music writer, into thee halcylon with Leroi Jones and Richard Meltzer, but not bothering to seem competitive, just calmly inspecting her object from every angle, moving in and out of metaphor and so on.I haven't kept up with all of her books over the years, but do have a sense from those I've read that she has kept up, maybe gotten better or deeper while she keeps digging, writing every day, preferably in a near-deserted backstreet coffee shop (black coffee, bread, olive oil, notebook, pen, that's it) Writing about travelling around her room, her books, her neighborhood, the world, her head ,incl. memories that finally have to be disclosed, as other contents under pressure become brief prose poems, as she keeps moving: that's in the logbook of M Train, my copy of which is marked on the back, New Content Within Of course.Laurie Anderson also seems to have gotten closer to the emotional core of her life in ways she can tell, for instance on the album Heart of a Dog (haven't seen the movie) and the posted trove her Norton Lectures, where audio and video are masterful as ever, text is key.
― dow, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:40 (eleven months ago) link
But those are speculations, suggestions----mostly, from being seized by a single deep body of work in each artist's canon, I nominate Robinson and Ferrante.
― dow, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:28 (eleven months ago) link